Killa rejects contract offer!

[GainsboroBlade]

Put him in the reserves and sell him in January! No player is bigger than the club!!

 

[LoughboroBlade]

Brown was offered a contract and was very close to signing it. In fact, he told the rest of the squad that he was staying shortly before he left the club. (Source: one of the players at the club at the time)

Interesting. Does he know what changed to make him decide to go instead?

Whilst I'm not happy at all with Blackwell at the minute, I've just seen the interview re: Killa and by the sounds of it the issue is with the player, not the club. If we've offered him substantially more than what he's on (and remember he signed when we were in the top division, so will have been paid accordingly), then you have to question his loyalty.

This puts us in a bit of a bad position. We could drop him, and in the process weaken our defence at a time when we're letting in plenty and probably also decrease any potential fee we get. Or we play him, with the risk that he'll continue to put in sub-par performances.

If he wants out, let him go. I don't think he'll end up to be half as good as, say, Phil Jagielka, and he'll probably be more of a hindrance than a help if he's playing with his mind elsewhere. Happened with Brown in his final half season, and Kabba's career went downhill fast the minute he got in a huff over his contract.

 

[Silent Blade]

Out of the past POY winners, along with Katchouro, Killa is the most over-rated SUFC POY winner. He isnt Premiership class as he is too weak when it comes to physical challenges. I read somewhere that he has hopes of being in the England squad which made me laugh out loud. I hope SUFC will stop making silly contract offers to him.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

Didn't you see Katman's legendary hat-trick against Bury? Legend ;-)

 

[Stafford Blade]

he'll get a premiership move in jan. and will be back in the championship in may

 

[bladesadviser]

The problem with most players they don't love the club like we do, they are just passing through either on the way up or down in their career. Other than Dane Whitehouse with us I can only think of Steve Bull at Wolves and Matt le Tissier at Southampton who turned down moves to bigger clubs because they loved the team they were playing for.

 

[Ballinpigpubs13]

Let the greedy chuff go. He's nowt special.

 

[SwissBlade]

It sounds like a Lescott situation, agent forcing the issue, He'll have been promised more money if he moves. Except that Killa doesn't have Man City banging the door down with a Blank Cheque Book. As far as I'm aware, only Newcastle and Boro came in for him in August.

A few weeks ago I said that Killa and Morgs (two of our most consistent players last year) should have been given new contracts, both on the same money and joint top earners at the club. Is that unfair? It would've been a performance related increase based upon their excellent season last season. That should've been the end of it. Afterall we got money from Tevez and the Kyles both of which were for the running of the club. Surely player wages are part of the running of the club?

If we've got Ched, Hendo, Cotterill, etc on more money than the top two performers then thats the clubs fault. Don't bring players in who may or may not perform or even give a shit about the club, if we can't afford to pay our top performers the top wages.

He IS a good player and has lots of potential to do well in the PL, he's still learning, he's technically very good but still needs to toughen up a bit. The cost of replacing Killa would be more than it costs to keep him, surely?

But that was a few weeks ago.

However, the here and now i'm p*ssed off with Killa. Why do the TV interview? And either side he's had flu (was it really flu) and had some poor games.

I thought he'd be more professional than this.

Whether he goes on to play for England (unlikely but possible) and gets his dream move to the PL, we'll see in Jan. But compare his behaviour to Jags and they're poles apart. Just makes me realise how lucky we were with Jags. He never hid his desire to play in the PL, but stayed until he got there with us, never shirked his responsibility and never ducked a challenge.

If he doesn't start acting like a Blade on Tuesday, then Fcuk him. Leave him in the reserves until the summer.

After all (to use Blackies own words) "if we do that, other players would naturally want to jump on the same boat and the Club would be heading for financial ruin meltdown"

Both the club AND Killa haven't done themselves any favours on this one. It needs sorting fast one way or the other.

 

[beightonblade]

easy............. get em on 5 year deals 3 years in offer new contract if yer want to keep em...... if they don't sign .... sell em an get a few bob.

 

[Mary Christmas]

I think there are occasions when we forget that SUFC is a professional football club and that the chairman, the mangement and the players are all professionals and (more or less) not one has any real reason to have an undying allegiance to the Club. It has been said many times before but supporters will always stay the rest come and go. They will, all of them, at some time want more, want better, want to leave that is a fact it always has been and it always will. Killa is the same as most other other pros he his looking after his own best interests. I do not hold the view that he should be left out because his mind his elsewhere. More especially because when he's out on the football pitch he is like every last one of us that plays football or has played football he plays to enjoy it, he plays to win and he plays to impress. God I hope I'm not wrong because I will be there in my £24.50 seat under the stars to (hopefully) see him and United win.

And after all that may I offer this little Beatles number: -

You never give me your money
You only give me your funny paper
and in the middle of negotiations
you break down

I never give you my number
I only give you my situation
and in the middle of investigation
I break down

Out of college, money spent
See no future, pay no rent
All the money's gone, nowhere to go
Any jobber got the sack
Monday morning, turning back
Yellow lorry slow, nowhere to go
But oh, that magic feeling, nowhere to go
Oh, that magic feeling
Nowhere to go
Nowhere to go

One sweet dream
Pick up the bags and get in the limousine
Soon we'll be away from here
Step on the gas and wipe that tear away
One sweet dream came true... today
Came true... today
Came true... today...yes it did
One two three four five six seven,
All good children go to Heaven

 

[shorehamview]

Dear Killa,

We'd really like you to stay at United, so please sign a new contract. Don't be greedy though, because there's a world of difference between wanting to play for us and only doing it for the money. If money is the sole reason you play, then sod off to somebody with more money than us, and possibly more money than sense.

We like you, but don't take the piss, Sunny Jim. You're not the only centre-back in the world. Even we can find another. Hopefully.

 

[Kev Gee]

Blackwell should now grow a backbone & drop him.

 

[SwissBlade]

Blackwell should now grow a backbone & drop him.

Well he did sub him for being crap on sat

 

[Bramley]

Kilgallon

They did offer him a contract and it was to make him top earner at the club, he turned it down. He wants £25k a week. He was lined up to go to Wigan before the transfer window shut but we wanted either Watson or Brown as a cash plus players deal - Brown didn't want to drop down from the Prem and Watson wants to go back to London.

 

[SheepdipBlade]

They did offer him a contract and it was to make him top earner at the club, he turned it down. He wants £25k a week. He was lined up to go to Wigan before the transfer window shut but we wanted either Watson or Brown as a cash plus players deal - Brown didn't want to drop down from the Prem and Watson wants to go back to London.

Can you tell us the source of this?

 

[Bergen Blade]

I rate Kilgallon, but think we're stupid if we're offering him 20k. Us dishing out silly money like that on individuals is partly the reason we can't afford a full squad.

 

[Autumn]

i'd like to know to! Because not unless my colleague has been keeping paperwork from me, this is not the amount offered.

 

[Bramley]

We've not offered him £20k p/w, we offered to make him the top earner, nowhere near £25k p/w.

Source from within the club.

 

[FlyingFjortoft]

if Brown didn't want to drop down to the Championship, why'd he join Portsmouth?

 

[Autumn]

Bramley, he is demanding 30k, he won't take less than that. He knows United won't offer that much, and he feels this will leave him open to premiership offers, but believe me no amount of whoring him to clubs is getting the agent anywhere.

 

[Deleted member 1486]

I'm probably gonna get mullered for this, but what the hell: I don't actually think Kilgallon is all that, he's a slightly above-average player at this level. He can tackle and head the ball well and occasionally goes on one of his little runs, but he flaps too often and I don't think he reads the game as well as, say, Morgan does.

He's an alright player at this level, replaceable though, especially if he wants 25k a week! I'd be absolutely mortified if we were looking like losing Morgan, I'm just a bit "meh" about Killa.

 

[Marland Blade]

I'm probably gonna get mullered for this, but what the hell: I don't actually think Kilgallon is all that, he's a slightly above-average player at this level. He can tackle and head the ball well and occasionally goes on one of his little runs, but he flaps too often and I don't think he reads the game as well as, say, Morgan does.

He's an alright player at this level, replaceable though, especially if he wants 25k a week! I'd be absolutely mortified if we were looking like losing Morgan, I'm just a bit "meh" about Killa.

Well put Flawed - Always thought Morganbauer carried Him.

 

[Sheffield-Bl4de]

Saw him today in town, then passed him at the roundabout outside town.

 

[Trevor Hockey]

Just been looking at BBC ceefax - article about Scunny quotes Grant Mcann their top man in midfield (hes got 6 goals so far) and current N. Ireland international.

He's out of contract at the end of the season. He was asked if Scunny had offered him anything reply = "...no so I'll have to get my head doan and work harder" - no suggestion of throwing dummy out or trying to promote himself to al and sundry.

Spot the difference.

 

[Cheshire Cat]

Just been looking at BBC ceefax - article about Scunny quotes Grant Mcann their top man in midfield (hes got 6 goals so far) and current N. Ireland international.

He's out of contract at the end of the season. He was asked if Scunny had offered him anything reply = "...no so I'll have to get my head doan and work harder" - no suggestion of throwing dummy out or trying to promote himself to al and sundry.

Spot the difference.

My spot - never played in the prem, never been mentioned outside of Championship message boards, noone knows who he is.

McCann's a nice player (wonder if he can control passes at neck height - there's a job for him here if he can), but he's playing with a completely different hand of cards to Killa.

I think Matty's over-rated - there's no doubt he's got talent but he's inconsistent. However, he is well known, has played in the Prem, has been noted as one of the top defenders outside of the Prem and has had offers. If I was him I think I'd be employing the same strategy as this is his last chance of a billy-big-time contract

 

[WhiteHawk]

Personally I'm disappointed we've got to wait till January to get rid of him.

I think he's been crap and I don't reckon it'd make any difference at all if we dropped him, we can hardly be any worse in defence can we?

Blackwell ought to stick him in the reserves and flog him in January.

 

[Bramley]

Killa is not about to put in a transfer request because he would lose out on money and in any case his contract ends in the Summer. However, his negotiations appear to mean the same thing - he wants out since he thinks himself better than the club and knows in his own mind that if he stays there is no chance of him playing in the Prem while his contract runs.

It's rubbish saying that the Club or Blackwell have lied. There is probably no contract on the table becuase they have not reached any agreement on terms. You don't draw up a contract if you have not agreed the figures. Killa and his agent are playing games, though. They will never reach a settlement because he wants to leave. Killa will get a good stash when he moves to Wigan (Martinez has always been a fan of his) or somewhere like that, on a Bossy. He can sign pre-contract terms in January and go for nothing or he will be sold and shipped out as quick as we can. However, I doubt we will get much of the £1.75m we paid for him though. Expect to get £500k max in January when he moves to one of the mediocre prem clubs.

Personally, if a player is holding you to ransom in that way then I believe he should be forced to rot in the Ressies whilst his contract runs out. In reality I don't think that many clubs can afford to do that, Blades included. You have to trust that they will act in a professional mannner - but Killa has not shown that in recent weeks.

Agreed - £2 million is pie in the sky for a player with 6 months left. £1 million at best.

 

[TonyAgana]

Personally I'm disappointed we've got to wait till January to get rid of him.

I think he's been crap and I don't reckon it'd make any difference at all if we dropped him, we can hardly be any worse in defence can we?

Blackwell ought to stick him in the reserves and flog him in January.

We're gonna struggle to get anywhere near market value for him as it is. Letting him rot in the reserves for the next couple of months is hardly going to help.

 

[WhiteHawk]

We're gonna struggle to get anywhere near market value for him as it is. Letting him rot in the reserves for the next couple of months is hardly going to help.

He isn't that good anyway so his market value is about £50.