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Obviously a playing a bit of devil's advocate here as we are not (at present) even looking for a new manager yet, or even have a vacancy to fill as things currently stand, however, with the increasing possibility that a change of management might (rightly or wrongly) be forthcoming, then who do we realistically try and appoint?...

Or should we say, what type of person should we be looking for?

IMHO, many people have mooted the idea of a new man with fresh ideas, a new hypothesis on how we should play our football, and someone capable of maximising our (lessening) investment in players by means of lower league gems or foreign and lesser UK/Irish talents.

My personal ideal for any future job spec for the potential vacancy would be:

*Someone in the under 50 age bracket who could (in theory) have a more modern approach/idea of the way modern football has evolved and an appreciation of how the most successful clubs in the modern game tend to play an aggressive, attacking, high tempo game.

*A man with some (but not necessarily vast) experience of the football league

*Someone with a bit of history in achieving 'relative success' on a minimal budget (as which will be required given our present circumstances) i.e. over achieving with lesser players, or buying good players from less traditional sources at a price which is minimal so that any failures are not seen as expensive flops a la Ched, Hendo etc...

*Someone with a sense of self-belief (something which i think has erradicated from KB post-PO's) in his work and with the confidence to send his players out to attack and win games both home and away - and maybe even accept the odd defeats here and there due to this mentality as its likely to bear more points long-term than we lose imho...

*Someone who is completely unattached to the current regime and any of our past (ruling out Speed, Pesch, McCall, Holdsworth etc), simply due to the need for a clean break and a fresh outlook on the club - as much as I think Speed could potentially become a good manager i think (aswell as his lack of experience) his existing relationship could really be a downfall if he were to take charge, simply because he is less likely to make dramatic changes or widescale overturns of players (which a new man may be more willing to do) due to his current relationship with them.

*Mostly, someone willing to bring through a new idea to the club of how we approach our football, and how long-term, maybe a new style of play may be more condusive to succeeding, and finding players capable of improving both us and themselves to an extent that both parties profiles are raised.

The list of potential candidates which match this profile is predictably small, and many managers answer some of the criteria, but not all, whilst some answer them but are either i) unatainable ii) unrealistic/unlikely to happen of iii) for some reason I could not see them moving to SUFC

The only guys I could potentially see working are:

Paulo Sousa (like Martinez, i like his style, apporach, the players he targets and his confidence of playing football but probably out of range! £££)
Paul Ince (despite the blip at B'burn he's done reasonably well at MK)
Aidy Boothroyd (I used to hate his direct style at Watford but apparently his Colchester side play much better and has undoubtedly succeeded at his clubs)
Lee Clark (Hudders have drifted off the pace, but a sound 1st season, good signings, and he's competed with clubs on much bigger budgets)
Roy Keane (as much as i detest and think he wouldn't be suitable he does fill many of the criteria, but could he work on a shoe-string?)
Paul Lambert (like SOD in a way - we would probably not be able to afford him! and why would he leave? especially as Norwich are a good club)
Gary Johnson (a bit older, and a lot like NW imo, and maybe his playing style is not as attractive as some others/what some are asking for a la Donny, but has succeeded relatively well at Yoevil then Bristol City)
Tony Mowbray (probably a bit too stubborn in his approach at times, but undoubtedly successful at getting sides playing, and experienced winning promotion)

What ever happened to John Collins? How about Chris Coleman who was linked pre-Robson? Any more?

Does anyone have any other ideas who could potentially fill these criteria? Or does anyone disagree/have other criteria which we would want to see in any future applicants?

UTB!
 



Where is Dave Penny, started the ball rollin at Donny.

John Ryan knew what he was doing with Dave Penny, he knew he wouldn't be able to take Doncaster any further and handed the reigns to SOD. Probably the best bit of actual chaimanship seen at that level for some time.

So it's a no to Dave Penny ;)
 
The problem is McCabe's lack of interest/investment.

Ok, semi-accept that, but given that this issue is unlikely to change anytime soon (i don't see any better options queing up to take us over, nor are there many investors lining up to pump millions into CCC clubs), how do we appoint a manager capable of dealing with these restrictions?

Surely there is some managers capable of doing so, otherwise why are people so willing to want to replace Blackwell?

Also if investment is the be and end all of a clubs success, why are Donny, Blackpool, Swansea, Leciester all performing better after lesser investment and Coventry, Reading, Bristol and Barnsley performing similarly on much lesser budgets?

I don't buy that McCabe's stance re. our reduced investment has to mean lesser performances, i just think we need a man capable of achieving/utilising the minimal funs available under such terms.

Where is Dave Penny, started the ball rollin at Donny.

Was at Darlington before Staunton I believe, and sacked shortly before/after going into admin - possibly not the best indicator of his capabilities for the role i'd think!?

UTB!
 
Ok, semi-accept that, but given that this issue is unlikely to change anytime soon (i don't see any better options queing up to take us over, nor are there many investors lining up to pump millions into CCC clubs), how do we appoint a manager capable of dealing with these restrictions?

Surely there is some managers capable of doing so, otherwise why are people so willing to want to replace Blackwell?

Also if investment is the be and end all of a clubs success, why are Donny, Blackpool, Swansea, Leciester all performing better after lesser investment and Coventry, Reading, Bristol and Barnsley performing similarly on much lesser budgets?

I don't buy that McCabe's stance re. our reduced investment has to mean lesser performances, i just think we need a man capable of achieving/utilising the minimal funs available under such terms.



Was at Darlington before Staunton I believe, and sacked shortly before/after going into admin - possibly not the best indicator of his capabilities for the role i'd think!?

UTB!

In the position we are now no one better than Mr Warnock.
 
In the position we are now no one better than Mr Warnock.

Don't know if you noticed BB, but Mr Warnock has a job, quite a cushy one at that some would say.

And I, for one, would prefer not to jump back 5 years.

Onwards and upwards :fishy:
 
He's long enough gone to be detached, but still connected enough to care. has done very well in his managerial appointments up to now and may be worth a look at least...Chris Wilder!
 
He's long enough gone to be detached, but still connected enough to care. has done very well in his managerial appointments up to now and may be worth a look at least...Chris Wilder!
Good call on Chris Wilder - a Blade through and through and knows the non-league scene well. I guess he would be perceived as a bit of a risk though.

I'd like to think Mowbray would be a possibility, but it's looking likely he might end up at Ipswich.

Not sure I agree about Speed being too connected to the current regime - Spackman changed the playing style for the better after taking over from Kendall. If McCabe acted decisively he could give Speed a few games to see how he gets on. He could even bring in his old team mate Deano Saunders to help out :)
 
Obviously a playing a bit of devil's advocate here as we are not (at present) even looking for a new manager yet, or even have a vacancy to fill as things currently stand, however, with the increasing possibility that a change of management might (rightly or wrongly) be forthcoming, then who do we realistically try and appoint?...

Or should we say, what type of person should we be looking for?

IMHO, many people have mooted the idea of a new man with fresh ideas, a new hypothesis on how we should play our football, and someone capable of maximising our (lessening) investment in players by means of lower league gems or foreign and lesser UK/Irish talents.

My personal ideal for any future job spec for the potential vacancy would be:

*Someone in the under 50 age bracket who could (in theory) have a more modern approach/idea of the way modern football has evolved and an appreciation of how the most successful clubs in the modern game tend to play an aggressive, attacking, high tempo game.

*A man with some (but not necessarily vast) experience of the football league

*Someone with a bit of history in achieving 'relative success' on a minimal budget (as which will be required given our present circumstances) i.e. over achieving with lesser players, or buying good players from less traditional sources at a price which is minimal so that any failures are not seen as expensive flops a la Ched, Hendo etc...

*Someone with a sense of self-belief (something which i think has erradicated from KB post-PO's) in his work and with the confidence to send his players out to attack and win games both home and away - and maybe even accept the odd defeats here and there due to this mentality as its likely to bear more points long-term than we lose imho...

*Someone who is completely unattached to the current regime and any of our past (ruling out Speed, Pesch, McCall, Holdsworth etc), simply due to the need for a clean break and a fresh outlook on the club - as much as I think Speed could potentially become a good manager i think (aswell as his lack of experience) his existing relationship could really be a downfall if he were to take charge, simply because he is less likely to make dramatic changes or widescale overturns of players (which a new man may be more willing to do) due to his current relationship with them.

*Mostly, someone willing to bring through a new idea to the club of how we approach our football, and how long-term, maybe a new style of play may be more condusive to succeeding, and finding players capable of improving both us and themselves to an extent that both parties profiles are raised.

The list of potential candidates which match this profile is predictably small, and many managers answer some of the criteria, but not all, whilst some answer them but are either i) unatainable ii) unrealistic/unlikely to happen of iii) for some reason I could not see them moving to SUFC

The only guys I could potentially see working are:

Paulo Sousa (like Martinez, i like his style, apporach, the players he targets and his confidence of playing football but probably out of range! £££)
Paul Ince (despite the blip at B'burn he's done reasonably well at MK)
Aidy Boothroyd (I used to hate his direct style at Watford but apparently his Colchester side play much better and has undoubtedly succeeded at his clubs)
Lee Clark (Hudders have drifted off the pace, but a sound 1st season, good signings, and he's competed with clubs on much bigger budgets)
Roy Keane (as much as i detest and think he wouldn't be suitable he does fill many of the criteria, but could he work on a shoe-string?)
Paul Lambert (like SOD in a way - we would probably not be able to afford him! and why would he leave? especially as Norwich are a good club)
Gary Johnson (a bit older, and a lot like NW imo, and maybe his playing style is not as attractive as some others/what some are asking for a la Donny, but has succeeded relatively well at Yoevil then Bristol City)
Tony Mowbray (probably a bit too stubborn in his approach at times, but undoubtedly successful at getting sides playing, and experienced winning promotion)

What ever happened to John Collins? How about Chris Coleman who was linked pre-Robson? Any more?

Does anyone have any other ideas who could potentially fill these criteria? Or does anyone disagree/have other criteria which we would want to see in any future applicants?

UTB!

Lee Clark has spent a fortune, particularly on wages, at Huddersfield. And how on earth does he have enough experience?
 

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