How did C. Evans play yesterday?

[Sheffsteel]

Get rid asap. He was Uncle kevs signing not wilders. Dead wood.

That’s your opinion but the facts are that
Wilder very much sees Evans as part of his plans.
I’ve no doubt Evans won’t have lost his finishing ability but the big question is

He’s currently not up to it because he’s slightly too slow and not quite sharp enough in the box.
Is this down to his lack of games, so the more games he gets the sharper he becomes
or is that it? Has age caught up with him and any big career in football s now just a pipe dream.

Wilders knows Cheds quality and he’s also very popular in the dressing room, so he’ll be shown some patience and support.
However patience only lasts so long, he really needs to impress in the Summer18 pre season matches.
Otherwise I agree, the final decision might be that he’s average league 1 or league 2 standard at best.
It’s wise not to write him off yet but if I was a betting man I’d say he’ll be a bit part sub next season and will be gone after next season.

Hope I’m wrong because I’ve seen with my own eyes just how good Ched can be, for those final 6 months still say that Ched is the best all round striker I’ve seen at the lane since Brian Deane.

 

[JKBlade]

That’s your opinion but the facts are that
Wilder very much sees Evans as part of his plans.
I’ve no doubt Evans won’t have lost his finishing ability but the big question is

He’s currently not up to it because he’s slightly too slow and not quite sharp enough in the box.
Is this down to his lack of games, so the more games he gets the sharper he becomes
or is that it? Has age caught up with him and any big career in football s now just a pipe dream.

Wilders knows Cheds quality and he’s also very popular in the dressing room, so he’ll be shown some patience and support.
However patience only lasts so long, he really needs to impress in the Summer18 pre season matches.
Otherwise I agree, the final decision might be that he’s average league 1 or league 2 standard at best.
It’s wise not to write him off yet but if I was a betting man I’d say he’ll be a bit part sub next season and will be gone after next season.

Hope I’m wrong because I’ve seen with my own eyes just how good Ched can be, for those final 6 months still say that Ched is the best all round striker I’ve seen at the lane since Brian Deane.

Went to Ipswich, and thought Ched was excellent.
Held the ball up really well and some nice touches. Unlucky not to score.

Been very disappointed with Donaldson of late, and not seen enough from Wilson to suggest Ched shouldn’t be getting more game time before the end of the season.

 

[More Bladier than thou]

That’s your opinion but the facts are that
Wilder very much sees Evans as part of his plans.
I’ve no doubt Evans won’t have lost his finishing ability but the big question is

He’s currently not up to it because he’s slightly too slow and not quite sharp enough in the box.
Is this down to his lack of games, so the more games he gets the sharper he becomes
or is that it? Has age caught up with him and any big career in football s now just a pipe dream.

Wilders knows Cheds quality and he’s also very popular in the dressing room, so he’ll be shown some patience and support.
However patience only lasts so long, he really needs to impress in the Summer18 pre season matches.
Otherwise I agree, the final decision might be that he’s average league 1 or league 2 standard at best.
It’s wise not to write him off yet but if I was a betting man I’d say he’ll be a bit part sub next season and will be gone after next season.

Hope I’m wrong because I’ve seen with my own eyes just how good Ched can be, for those final 6 months still say that Ched is the best all round striker I’ve seen at the lane since Brian Deane.

Really? I thought it was obvious that kev signed him as he felt we owed him. Have to disagree, best all rounder has to be Dean Saunders !

 

[blader]

Went to Ipswich, and thought Ched was excellent.
Held the ball up really well and some nice touches. Unlucky not to score.

Been very disappointed with Donaldson of late, and not seen enough from Wilson to suggest Ched shouldn’t be getting more game time before the end of the season.

Mate if you thought Ched was ‘excellent’ and Ipswich then you are sadly delusional. He didn’t score, didn’t even come close to scoring. In what world is that an ‘excellent’ strikers performance?

Why was he unlucky not to score? How did he have any bad luck in that game??

 

[Sheffsteel]

Really? I thought it was obvious that kev signed him as he felt we owed him. Have to disagree, best all rounder has to be Dean Saunders !

Wilder has said plenty of times he’d walk away if players were forced on to him with his consent.
To be fair I think we’re all right, I would think McCabe instigated the transfer but the final decison was down to Wilder.
It’s a bit like an agent approaching Wilder and saying player x is available to buy at a good price.
If Wilder agree to buy that player,.....no one says it was the agent that made the signing not Wilder.
What difference does it make who has the original idea......as long as the final word is Wilders.

Agree that Saunders was very good but think Ched was more dynamic, scored some goals by himself, didn’t even need setting up.
He stood out much more than what Saunders did but it was in a lower standard division, so not so simple to compare.

Blader, Edwards on the radio said Cheds display against Ipswich was adequate, showing promise with his good touches but said he wasn’t involved enough and still not up to the pace of the Champiomship. He said that hopefully more games will improve his match sharpness but it’s also possible that he’s already at his best and he’ll only ever be a bit part player for us at best.

 

[@thelane]

Still a very clever player. Some nice touches and turns but until his pace or at least sharpness returns he's not much of a goal threat.
I don't see why every player coming back from injury gets the benefit of the doubt but with ched we write his entire career off.

Wilder clearly rates him and likes his attitude and drive so unfortunately for some of you he's going to be given the time that he deserves.

Please explain to me why he deserves any more time than any other player?...Leonard and Holmes deserve time...he does not...no idea why we signed him back....he is done...this championship is now beyond him....this club owes him nothing...he owes us.

 

[@thelane]

Mate if you thought Ched was ‘excellent’ and Ipswich then you are sadly delusional. He didn’t score, didn’t even come close to scoring. In what world is that an ‘excellent’ strikers performance?

Why was he unlucky not to score? How did he have any bad luck in that game??

I completely agree mate...some hold him in the same regard as Tony Currie....WHY!?

 

[Snowman]

That’s your opinion but the facts are that
Wilder very much sees Evans as part of his plans.
I’ve no doubt Evans won’t have lost his finishing ability but the big question is

He’s currently not up to it because he’s slightly too slow and not quite sharp enough in the box.
Is this down to his lack of games, so the more games he gets the sharper he becomes
or is that it? Has age caught up with him and any big career in football s now just a pipe dream.

Wilders knows Cheds quality and he’s also very popular in the dressing room, so he’ll be shown some patience and support.
However patience only lasts so long, he really needs to impress in the Summer18 pre season matches.
Otherwise I agree, the final decision might be that he’s average league 1 or league 2 standard at best.
It’s wise not to write him off yet but if I was a betting man I’d say he’ll be a bit part sub next season and will be gone after next season.

Hope I’m wrong because I’ve seen with my own eyes just how good Ched can be, for those final 6 months still say that Ched is the best all round striker I’ve seen at the lane since Brian Deane.

What league was Deane playing in and what league was Ched playing in when you compared?

 

[LoughboroBlade]

What league was Deane playing in and what league was Ched playing in when you compared?

Quite. Only player that comes close since I’ve been watching us is Hulse, who completely surprised me that season (had expected just a slightly more successful version of Geoff Horsfield...) and who was apparently being considered for an England squad callup prior to the injury. He had been excellent for us.

Please explain to me why he deserves any more time than any other player?

He doesn’t. But that isn’t to say he can’t earn it based on his contribution. I didn’t particularly agree with Wilder’s decision to start him at Ipswich (I would have gone with Donaldson), but I was fine with him playing and am more than fine leaving it to Wilder’s judgment on whether someone should start – ultimately he will see more than any of us fans will on a day-to-day basis.

 

[Toronto Blade fan]

They took a chance on Ched... sadly it didnt pan out. Hes not the Ched from yester years... sad to say but we need to move on.

 

[FTPE]

Please explain to me why he deserves any more time than any other player?...Leonard and Holmes deserve time...he does not...no idea why we signed him back....he is done...this championship is now beyond him....this club owes him nothing...he owes us.

..... because he's coming back from injury?

 

[LoughboroBlade]

..... because he's coming back from injury?

That doesn’t mean he deserves any more game time. You surely wouldn’t suggest Freeman deserves more game time than Baldock? Each player should be selected on merit.

 

[FTPE]

That doesn’t mean he deserves any more game time. You surely wouldn’t suggest Freeman deserves more game time than Baldock? Each player should be selected on merit.

I didn't day more game time. I just meant more time in general to prove himself to Wilder whether that be in training or in the under 23s. It's the bloke above who's taken it as game time. I just meant we shouldn't write his while career off based on his first few weeks back.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

I just meant we shouldn't write his while career off based on his first few weeks back.

My apologies – on that point I agree. Though I have to say that while not writing it off, the likelihood of a career with us doesn’t look particularly positive. We will almost certainly recruit in the summer to strengthen the forward line, making it an even tougher ask for Ched Evans to get into the team than it has been this year when he’s been fit enough to compete.

 

[Darlington82]

Can we have the ched section back, where all the stupid comments about him can not be read by a wider audience. The excellent at Ipswich one on its own is worthy of a fine. Should never have come back, end of.

 

[FTPE]

My apologies – on that point I agree. Though I have to say that while not writing it off, the likelihood of a career with us doesn’t look particularly positive. We will almost certainly recruit in the summer to strengthen the forward line, making it an even tougher ask for Ched Evans to get into the team than it has been this year when he’s been fit enough to compete.

Wow, a whole lotta bad grammar in last night's post from myself. Thanks persevering.
Two things stand out to me about Ched's second stint with us. First off Wilder's comment earlier in the season "I'm loyal not sentimantal". Obvioulsy those two things can slightly cross over but in terms of resigning Ched I would almost 100% put that down to sentimentality.
On the other hand I also recall an interview early in the season where Wilder beamed with pride as he told the press how Ched was powering through an injury, still giving it his all in training and putting his hand up every time he asked if he could still "do a job for us saturday" when we were low on numbers up top. Maybe thats where the loyalty has come from?
It's a strange one because since the injury Ched had hardly played any second string football, after the loss to wednesdays under 23s (which by all accounts he did nothing in) he seemed to be straight back on the bench which gave the impression to me that CW couldn't wait to get him back in the squad.
I keep saying time and time again that I wont question Chris's decisions and this time is no different.
Personally I agree, he currently looks a shadow of the unplayable striker I remember but "time" (playing anywhere) will tell.

 

[wizadry]

Please explain to me why he deserves any more time than any other player?...Leonard and Holmes deserve time...he does not...no idea why we signed him back....he is done...this championship is now beyond him....this club owes him nothing...he owes us.

He doesn’t owe us anything, the criminal justice system does but I thought everyone knew that by now?

I completely agree mate...some hold him in the same regard as Tony Currie....WHY!?

I’m pretty sure you know this is complete and utter bollocks so the question must be why put it? Probably to enhance a point that nobody has even alluded to?

 

[FTPE]

Can we have the ched section back, where all the stupid comments about him can not be read by a wider audience. The excellent at Ipswich one on its own is worthy of a fine. Should never have come back, end of.

You mean you didn't realise a thread asking how "C.Evans played" was about ched? Did we trick you into reading it?
Where are the stupid comments on here? They all seem very level headed to me.

 

[Darlington82]

Sorry few on here with ched tinted glasses. 9 pages ffs. Hope he proves me wrong but I can't see it.