Football league ground capacity.

[BigBed]

After reading that we have been allocated 774 tickets for the away trip to Wimbledon, I was just thinking that clubs in the football league should have a minimum capacity limit set on their grounds, would it be stupid to set a limit???
I understand that different clubs have different budgets, cashbook etc, but if there was a set minimum that you had to have in order to play in each divi, whether the club's fans fill it or not, it would give more away supporters a chance to see their team and for said club to earn abit more cash also.
Good or bad idea??

 

[Tyler Durden]

There's no solution in Wimbledons case. They get close to capacity every game including having over 3000 season ticket holders in a 4,800 seater ground.

The only way to increase the away allocation would be to take a portion of the home stands. If they are already being filled regularly then we have no right to take it off them really.

 

[mattbianco1]

After reading that we have been allocated 774 tickets for the away trip to Wimbledon, I was just thinking that clubs in the football league should have a minimum capacity limit set on their grounds, would it be stupid to set a limit???
I understand that different clubs have different budgets, cashbook etc, but if there was a set minimum that you had to have in order to play in each divi, whether the club's fans fill it or not, it would give more away supporters a chance to see their team and for said club to earn abit more cash also.
Good or bad idea??

What so if we're shit (shitter) and nobody wanted to go, we'd be forced to go? Or 'asked politely'. What if we refuse? Then what? Who do they get? Maybe ask the homeless guys on the moor? There's plenty of people in Calais who'd probably be up for it.

Maybe something along the lines of - If a certain % of tickets aren't sold by home fans, the home team must offer an extended section to away fans.
That's all fine down in this Shite league but in the championship and premiership grounds aren't nearly as scarce.
What would our cut off be? 15k? What's it matter though, only Barnsley and Bradford have filled the away end in the last 5 years.

 

[Canterbury Blade]

Nah, good luck to em. If they've battled all other adversity to get there then they deserve it and many clubs genuinely can't afford building work for what may be just one season.

It would be also potentially be another reason for bigger clubs to stay where they were, if smaller clubs couldn't fulfil stadia criteria. How wrong for say Bolton to not go down and Wimbledon to not go up due to size of ground.

Plus reminds me of Div 4 days and a rampant United being followed by a rampant following watching a rampant Keith Edwards. Being back the rampant days I say!

 

[stringjunior]

After reading that we have been allocated 774 tickets for the away trip to Wimbledon, I was just thinking that clubs in the football league should have a minimum capacity limit set on their grounds, would it be stupid to set a limit???
I understand that different clubs have different budgets, cashbook etc, but if there was a set minimum that you had to have in order to play in each divi, whether the club's fans fill it or not, it would give more away supporters a chance to see their team and for said club to earn abit more cash also.
Good or bad idea??

Bad idea. Promoted teams from L2 might have tiny grounds - it's all part of life's rich tapestry. As they secure their position in a higher division they might be able to afford to expand.

Imagine if the Blades were denied promotion to the prem because we only had a 40k capacity ground yet needed 60k. We'd be livid (or resigned to being shafted one more time). Either way it couldn't possibly work.

 

[Sean Thornton]

They didn't really have a big support in the top division. They didn't bother to support them on the way back down after Hamman had kept them going. They even got a leg up when they reformed, not having to start at the bottom.

Just some romantic notion of them being an "underdog". Didn't apply when all and sundry in football and the media were backing Brighton when they could have gone out of the league. Why were Hereford less deserving?

Personally I hope MK slaughter them both times.

And no, I don't think I'll get a ticket to their shithole of a ground.

 

[Tyler Durden]

They didn't really have a big support in the top division. They didn't bother to support them on the way back down after Hamman had kept them going. They even got a leg up when they reformed, not having to start at the bottom.

Just some romantic notion of them being an "underdog". Didn't apply when all and sundry in football and the media were backing Brighton when they could have gone out of the league. Why were Hereford less deserving?

Personally I hope MK slaughter them both times.

And no, I don't think I'll get a ticket to their shithole of a ground.

You had a point until you mentioned MK Dons. They're the scum of football and I'm not entirely sure I'd even back them against Wednesday to be honest.

 

[Chezzy Blades]

You had a point until you mentioned MK Dons. They're the scum of football and I'm not entirely sure I'd even back them against Wednesday to be honest.

The FA really have created a man made monster with MK. The universal hatred for them from the wider football community rivals even Leeds.

 

[Bladesince59]

Nah, good luck to em. If they've battled all other adversity to get there then they deserve it and many clubs genuinely can't afford building work for what may be just one season.

It would be also potentially be another reason for bigger clubs to stay where they were, if smaller clubs couldn't fulfil stadia criteria. How wrong for say Bolton to not go down and Wimbledon to not go up due to size of ground.

Plus reminds me of Div 4 days and a rampant United being followed by a rampant following watching a rampant Keith Edwards. Being back the rampant days I say!

They could be closer than you would like to think. UTB

 

[Bladesince59]

Bad idea. Promoted teams from L2 might have tiny grounds - it's all part of life's rich tapestry. As they secure their position in a higher division they might be able to afford to expand.

Imagine if the Blades were denied promotion to the prem because we only had a 40k capacity ground yet needed 60k. We'd be livid (or resigned to being shafted one more time). Either way it couldn't possibly work.

What's this promotion shit?

 

[Sean Thornton]

You had a point until you mentioned MK Dons. They're the scum of football and I'm not entirely sure I'd even back them against Wednesday to be honest.

There's something seriously wrong with you then.

Go plastics!

 

[mattbianco1]

What so if we're shit (shitter) and nobody wanted to go, we'd be forced to go? Or 'asked politely'. What if we refuse? Then what? Who do they get? Maybe ask the homeless guys on the moor? There's plenty of people in Calais who'd probably be up for it.

Maybe something along the lines of - If a certain % of tickets aren't sold by home fans, the home team must offer an extended section to away fans.
That's all fine down in this Shite league but in the championship and premiership grounds aren't nearly as scarce.
What would our cut off be? 15k? What's it matter though, only Barnsley and Bradford have filled the away end in the last 5 years.

Sorry BigBed I took capacity to be "attendance". Misunderstood what you meant. I think Tyler Durden threw me with the first response.
Still, don't agree. Its not fair. Bournemouth wouldn't be in the prem if that was a rule.

 

[Sean Thornton]

The FA really have created a man made monster with MK. The universal hatred for them from the wider football community rivals even Leeds.

Do you think so? Pigs and Leeds preferred to MK? The works gone mad.

To add to the approbrium that's coming my way I'll also say I don't get this hatred of Leeds these days. Get the Revie bit obviously but they aren't even rivals. I have a lot of mates who are Leeds fans, unless we are playing them we - and the Pork - aren't even on their radar.

 

[Ecco1889]

They didn't really have a big support in the top division. They didn't bother to support them on the way back down after Hamman had kept them going. They even got a leg up when they reformed, not having to start at the bottom.

Just some romantic notion of them being an "underdog". Didn't apply when all and sundry in football and the media were backing Brighton when they could have gone out of the league. Why were Hereford less deserving?

Personally I hope MK slaughter them both times.

And no, I don't think I'll get a ticket to their shithole of a ground.

I reckon most English football fans have a soft spot for Wimbledon..
likewise can't stand mk dons tbh..
would love to find out what went on in the corridors of power with wankelman etc,when mk won a World Cup venue nomination..fucking unbelievable

 

[Tyler Durden]

Peter Winkleman looks like an Operation Yewtree suspect as well.

 

[Chezzy Blades]

Do you think so? Pigs and Leeds preferred to MK? The works gone mad.

To add to the approbrium that's coming my way I'll also say I don't get this hatred of Leeds these days. Get the Revie bit obviously but they aren't even rivals. I have a lot of mates who are Leeds fans, unless we are playing them we - and the Pork - aren't even on their radar.

Oh god no I personally hate Wednesday more than any other team. The others I just dislike for one reason and another.

I meant more football fans as a whole rather than me or even United fans. Generally speaking I see a lot of hate for MK from other local fans that I know/ speak to, along with others on social media. My dislike for MK comes more from how soulless their stadium is and how we usually play shite there.

I think I get my dislike of Leeds from my Dad and the trip he had there in 89/90. It eased his soul a lot seeing us beat them 4-0 up at ER in 2005. I also know a few Leeds fans, and although none of them ever set foot in Elland Road unless there's a big game, they aren't a bad bunch really.

 

[Sean Thornton]

I reckon most English football fans have a soft spot for Wimbledon..
likewise can't stand mk dons tbh..
would love to find out what went on in the corridors of power with wankelman etc,when mk won a World Cup venue nomination..fucking unbelievable

Never liked them. Didn't like it when they beat Liverpool - don't like them either - in the cup final. Compounded by cheating bastards Fashanu - the ref must have been in on it not to see his Michael Jordan impersonation at Plough Lane, and "I was ringing cars" cunt Hans Segers.

Money.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

No shortage of tickets at MK, that's an allocation we've struggled to sell out since the "promotion party" game. . .Day after CHED went down.

 

[BigBed]

I was thinking, if some sort of "facilities payment" was made to them from the FA, similar to the parachute payments, which are ridiculous, but these would help the upcoming teams get there shit in order before embarking on the the league??
Wasnt suggesting that Lincoln city should be expected to have a 30K capacity ground or anything, more to help every club upgrade facilities and intern make money to assist them with with there growth, finances, fan Base etc etc??

 

[BladeInIreland]

I was thinking, if some sort of "facilities payment" was made to them from the FA, similar to the parachute payments, which are ridiculous, but these would help the upcoming teams get there shit in order before embarking on the the league??
Wasnt suggesting that Lincoln city should be expected to have a 30K capacity ground or anything, more to help every club upgrade facilities and intern make money to assist them with with there growth, finances, fan Base etc etc??

Interesting idea. It would be nice to help teams get a bit more up to date, teams that wouldn't normally be able to afford it.

Few problems though
first for an example, if a team came up from league two and got that funding, there might be a few teams in the league not happy with that as there is already a heap of teams in this league that would benefit from that funding.Could they really afford to initially give everyone that money?

Another issue would be teams using the money in a bid to stay up instead of ground improvements. Maybe that could be moniterd.

Lastly id hate to see some of these old grounds turned into generic bowls like most modern stadiums.maybe planning regulations could be imposed to meet strict character requirements.

It would be a great idea though, maybe they could do something with the acadamies too.improve them across the whole country instead of making the system benefit the elite few.

 

[Finn Keane o' Balmaqueen]

There's enough cunts out there trying their damndest to change the rules, add restrictions, make life hard for the generic football fan.

Let's make it easier.

 

[stringjunior]

I was thinking, if some sort of "facilities payment" was made to them from the FA, similar to the parachute payments, which are ridiculous, but these would help the upcoming teams get there shit in order before embarking on the the league??
Wasnt suggesting that Lincoln city should be expected to have a 30K capacity ground or anything, more to help every club upgrade facilities and intern make money to assist them with with there growth, finances, fan Base etc etc??

You mean like West Ham getting the Olympic Stadium for less than nowt?

 

[Sheffsteel]

Wimbledon have always been my most disliked team.

Played ugly longball kick and rush. Tried intimidation tactics and almost knew how far to take it to bend the rules.
Terrible support, based on success must be the worse supported club in England.
Terrible ground, basically a non league ground.
When having success in the top flight struggled to break 10,000.
In the seasons of their boycotts were getting 3 and 4,000 in the top flight.
Never took away fans anywhere.
Consistantly brought the lowest numbers to Bramall Lane
And most of the time our lowest crowd of the season was against Wimbledon.
I used to think with diabolical support like they has they don't deserve a team.

It might seem romantic to have non league teams in the top flight.
But I'd rather have the traditional big clubs with fantastic grounds in England's top division.

 

[Bert]

Consistantly brought the lowest numbers to Bramall Lane

But it didn't stop them beating us on a regular basis.

 

[Rodders]

Wimbledon have always been my most disliked team.

Played ugly longball kick and rush. Tried intimidation tactics and almost knew how far to take it to bend the rules.
Terrible support, based on success must be the worse supported club in England.
Terrible ground, basically a non league ground.
When having success in the top flight struggled to break 10,000.
In the seasons of their boycotts were getting 3 and 4,000 in the top flight.
Never took away fans anywhere.
Consistantly brought the lowest numbers to Bramall Lane
And most of the time our lowest crowd of the season was against Wimbledon.
I used to think with diabolical support like they has they don't deserve a team.

It might seem romantic to have non league teams in the top flight.
But I'd rather have the traditional big clubs with fantastic grounds in England's top division.

Congratulations - the most MASSIVE post I've ever seen on this forum.

 

[Tyler Durden]

It might seem romantic to have non league teams in the top flight.
But I'd rather have the traditional big clubs with fantastic grounds in England's top division.

Yes well our traditional big club with it's fantastic ground has fucked up every chance it's ever had to be an established top flight side. If we're below Bournemouth, Swansea, Wigan and Burton and in the same division as a club who apparently don't deserve to exist then it's not romance, it's on merit (or lack of in Uniteds case).

 

[Dkc]

They are supposed to be moving to a new stadium on the site of Wimbledon dog track

 

[blade67]

After reading that we have been allocated 774 tickets for the away trip to Wimbledon, I was just thinking that clubs in the football league should have a minimum capacity limit set on their grounds, would it be stupid to set a limit???
I understand that different clubs have different budgets, cashbook etc, but if there was a set minimum that you had to have in order to play in each divi, whether the club's fans fill it or not, it would give more away supporters a chance to see their team and for said club to earn abit more cash also.
Good or bad idea??

no way. ban all daft rules like that. if you play well enough, you go up.

In the end teams that can't grow they will eventually fall

 

[Cyprus Blade]

I understand that different clubs have different budgets, cashbook etc, but if there was a set minimum that you had to have in order to play in each divi,

In a tv finance dominated world match attendances are becoming less and less central to football finances so this will never happen.The game is about money, not supporters.

 

[BigBed]

Fair enough chaps, was just wondering whether something like that could work in this crazy world!??
Back to plan D then, fuck the grounds off altogether, let's just meet at Graves Park every other Saturday and Tuesday, job done.