Exeter tickets - Just a thought

[Ollessendro]

What on earth are Exeter City expecting?? They have been advised by SUFC that a large number of fans plan to travel. United have recently sold out allocations at Bury and Rochdale (both 4k) and MK Dons (more than 5k?). Many Blades have had this in the diary from the start of the season and more are expecting it to be a vital game or fancy a party. Exeter City, with nothing to play for, have chosen not to take the sensible option.

I personally do not share LS26's concerns. Do you think a couple of people suggesting loopholes on here will make a difference? I would be amazed if Devon's finest actually expected Blades fans to listen to the warnings:
- sergeant webbed-feet: there we go, making the game all ticket will stop those pesky Northerners
- inspector webbed-hands: better make sure my son ..... and erm brother. Let's not let any Northern monkey post codes order any tickets. Just in case any of those numpties realise that they could buy a ticket for the Walsall game and get one for the final game.
- sergant webbed-feet: great thinking. Let's put a message out just in case. Tell United fans not to travel without a ticket. Make sure their club broadcast it. That should make those thousands of Blades cancel their travel plans and hotels (many booked months in advance) and ensure that all 25 of the Exeter fans expected to attend have a nice day out.
- inspector webb feet: top job sir. Let's go and look at the SUFC forums anf think if those cunning Northerners have thought of any other ideas. As a last resort, let's just stop all traffic going South from Sheffield without a match ticket. Presume that will not be a problem webbed-feet
- sergeant webbed-feet: worked for Thatcher, so do not see why not .......

 

[Foxy]

Well haven't Exeter City football club handled this one well. United hqve warned them and negotiatied for months in advance. Then, just as they go 8 points adrift with 3 games to go (effectively relegated .... especially when you have one in the last 6) they decide to give United a tiny allocation.

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I hope that Exeter languish in the 4th division for a long time. Fucking clowns. Well done for not being able to see further than the end of your noses.

Just when did we turn into "we're bigger than you, lay down, take it and be pleased for the privilege " Wednesdayite's?

The league regulations state:

"33.2.1 Each Club must make provision for at least 2,000 visiting supporters at every home match or such number as represents 10% of the Club's certified capacity, if less than 2,000. The Executive may, on the prior written application of a Club, suspend this Regulation or reduce the figure either for a particular League Match or for a period of time. With effect from the 2011/12 Season each Club shall, subject to any dispensations granted by the Board, make provision for at least 200 of the visiting supporters to be accommodated under cover. Any Club which fails to meet the requirement of 200 visiting supporters being accommodated under cover and which does not have a dispensation granted by the Board shall have such amounts as the Board shall determine (in its absolute discretion) withheld from that Club's central distributions from the Pool Account until such time as the Club can meet the requirement."

St James' Park holds 8,830 (3,800 Seated).

They also need to ensure that the fans are segregated, can leave the stadium efficiently in an emergency and have access to facilities.

They have absolutely no obligation to give us any more than the required minimum whatever their situation and however skint they are.

They have already annoyed a collection of their season ticket holders by increasing the usual allocation slightly for us.

However unlikely it may be, they are also still in a position where it is possible mathematically to stay up.

How would you like it if we were in a similar position and you got told you were going to have to shift behind a pole on the kop because an away fan was going to come and sit in your seat?

I'd like as many Blades to be there as possible, I'm sure Exeter City are the same (certainly those behind the scenes who would want to ensure they filled the ground and made as much money as possible), but that doesn't mean they should just hand the ground over to us and stuff the ones who go every week.

We are in this division on merit, Exeter are in this division on merit, therefore we have to respect that not every club shares the luxury of facilities to cater for higher numbers of home and away fans.

 

[Webding]

Yeah, I was going to post something similar, but less long-winded.

 

[Pollingtonblade]

Well I wouldn't worry, I was at Leicester in 1990 and we had 3 sides of the ground.

 

[Ollessendro]

Just when did we turn into "we're bigger than you, lay down, take it and be pleased for the privilege " Wednesdayite's?

The league regulations state:

"33.2.1 Each Club must make provision for at least 2,000 visiting supporters at every home match or such number as represents 10% of the Club's certified capacity, if less than 2,000. The Executive may, on the prior written application of a Club, suspend this Regulation or reduce the figure either for a particular League Match or for a period of time. With effect from the 2011/12 Season each Club shall, subject to any dispensations granted by the Board, make provision for at least 200 of the visiting supporters to be accommodated under cover. Any Club which fails to meet the requirement of 200 visiting supporters being accommodated under cover and which does not have a dispensation granted by the Board shall have such amounts as the Board shall determine (in its absolute discretion) withheld from that Club's central distributions from the Pool Account until such time as the Club can meet the requirement."

St James' Park holds 8,830 (3,800 Seated).

They also need to ensure that the fans are segregated, can leave the stadium efficiently in an emergency and have access to facilities.

They have absolutely no obligation to give us any more than the required minimum whatever their situation and however skint they are.

They have already annoyed a collection of their season ticket holders by increasing the usual allocation slightly for us.

However unlikely it may be, they are also still in a position where it is possible mathematically to stay up.

How would you like it if we were in a similar position and you got told you were going to have to shift behind a pole on the kop because an away fan was going to come and sit in your seat?

I'd like as many Blades to be there as possible, I'm sure Exeter City are the same (certainly those behind the scenes who would want to ensure they filled the ground and made as much money as possible), but that doesn't mean they should just hand the ground over to us and stuff the ones who go every week.

We are in this division on merit, Exeter are in this division on merit, therefore we have to respect that not every club shares the luxury of facilities to cater for higher numbers of home and away fans.

We asked for common sense, that was all. Unfortunately we were out of luck. Of course they do not have to, it just makes sense for them to do so. More money for them, better atmosphere all round. There is nothing big club, small club about this. It is about supply and demand, common sense and pragmatism. I would expect United to act in the same way (well better than this) in the similar circumstances. Exeter had a chance to make more money and make it a more comfortable, friendlier and safer environment. Now they have jeapordised that an we're left with a mess. If there is trouble, disappointment and aggro, then it will just be case of I told you so. Bury, Rochdale, MK Dons, Palace in the past all gave us big allocations because it was the prgmatic and sensible thing to do. That is the key point: pragmatism. But they have fallen way short and made a big balls up of the whole fucking thing.

 

[Foxy]

We asked for common sense, that was all. Unfortunately we were out of luck. Of course they do not have to, it just makes sense for them to do so. More money for them, better atmosphere all round. There is nothing big club, small club about this. It is about supply and demand, common sense and pragmatism. I would expect United to act in the same way (well better than this) in the similar circumstances. Exeter had a chance to make more money and make it a more comfortable, friendlier and safer environment. Now they have jeapordised that an we're left with a mess. If there is trouble, disappointment and aggro, then it will just be case of I told you so. Bury, Rochdale, MK Dons, Palace in the past all gave us big allocations because it was the prgmatic and sensible thing to do. That is the key point: pragmatism. But they have fallen way short and made a big balls up of the whole fucking thing.

Being a club who are currently borrowing from their supporters trust and struggling to make ends meet, I'm sure they'd absolutely love to throw open the doors and invite paying blades to sit where they want... However, you know full well it's not as simple as that and there are more factors at play. It's also not the goldmine many would have you believe with increased stewarding and policing commitments.

I'm sure they'd be feeling incredibly pragmatic next August when the thousands of blades that gave them a short term cash boost are miles away and they've lost a number of season ticket holders they turfed out of their long term seats.

Not entired sure where the webbed feet and apparent incest comes from either? Is that reserved for just Exeter City, or all clubs who don't give you a ticket?

 

[SwissBlade]

Being a club who are currently borrowing from their supporters trust and struggling to make ends meet, I'm sure they'd absolutely love to throw open the doors and invite paying blades to sit where they want... However, you know full well it's not as simple as that and there are more factors at play. It's also not the goldmine many would have you believe with increased stewarding and policing commitments.

I'm sure they'd be feeling incredibly pragmatic next August when the thousands of blades that gave them a short term cash boost are miles away and they've lost a number of season ticket holders they turfed out of their long term seats.

Not entired sure where the webbed feet and apparent incest comes from either? Is that reserved for just Exeter City, or all clubs who don't give you a ticket?

I think as Ollie said, we’re suggesting a sensible approach from Exeter.

Whilst you are quite correct to quote league rules, it would make sense to provide a higher allocation of away tickets because as Ollie said, they average around 4-4500 in an 8800 capacity ground and if (it’s very likely) they are down prior to the last game so either hold some back or provide a higher allocation to away fans now.

The point you make that it’s not the gold mine that people think because of extra costs etc obviously doesn’t wash t as MK, Rochdale, Bury etc have all given much larger allocations and of course the game is all ticket anyway so they are obviously preparing for a bigger than normal crowd

The problem now is that there will be some away fans buying tickets in the home ends, which is exactly what the club(s) and police intended to avoid...

I’m not entirely sure where the comparison to Wednesday fans comes from, but it’s simply a number of fans on here genuinely concerned that a club that don’t normally fill their ground give a higher allocation to a club that could and would (from recent cases) fill the ground.

It’s not a case of thinking we’re a bigger club, the fact is that we have a greater number of ST holders than their ground actually holds.

As for the displacement of fans, of course they won’t like it, but I guess sitting with Exeter fans in one or two stands is a better option than sitting with Sheffield United supporters who buy tickets where they can! That would piss me off more.

 

[Ollessendro]

Being a club who are currently borrowing from their supporters trust and struggling to make ends meet, I'm sure they'd absolutely love to throw open the doors and invite paying blades to sit where they want... However, you know full well it's not as simple as that and there are more factors at play. It's also not the goldmine many would have you believe with increased stewarding and policing commitments.

I'm sure they'd be feeling incredibly pragmatic next August when the thousands of blades that gave them a short term cash boost are miles away and they've lost a number of season ticket holders they turfed out of their long term seats.

Not entired sure where the webbed feet and apparent incest comes from either? Is that reserved for just Exeter City, or all clubs who don't give you a ticket?

Do you think their 'loyal season ticket' holders are going to be pleased when their stand is filled with Sheffield United fans? Do you think they'll be happy when they are sat next to a Blade. That their might be potential aggro, Blades celebrating if we score, singing and general awkwerdness. I'd actually wager on that the Exeter City FC fans would prefer all the United fans in one place and would advocate giving extra tickets. If I was a loyal Exeter fan I am not sure I would be there. Team badly let the fans down, relegated, potential of United fans being everywhere and a bank holiday weekend. Perhaps I have got it wrong though and the supporters are a fickle bunch of nupties (like the club) that cannot see past the end of their noses.

But perhaps you are right and this DOES NOT has the potential to be a right balls up. These loyal Exeter fans (that do not want United having tickets) will be happy for their ground to be taken over by United fans. For Blades to be sat next to them, for the ground to be sold out becasue SUFC fans are in every part of the ground.

 

[Revolution]

If what I have been told is right, you do Exeter a disservice Olle. People were saying at Rochdale that Exeter had asked their local police if we could take 3 sides of the ground but the police had refused this request...

 

[SwissBlade]

If what I have been told is right, you do Exeter a disservice Olle. People were saying at Rochdale that Exeter had asked their local police if we could take 3 sides of the ground but the police had refused this request...

That would make a certain amount of sense.... but then completely blinkered by the Police in many ways. Or perhaps they just want to make their job more difficult.

 

[Linz]

Looking at their forums, they've had problems in the past with Leeds fans... I think the Police have lumped all Northerners together as trouble-causers (descended from Vikings don't you know)... same as what happened at Yeovil.

 

[BusheyBlade]

Looking at their forums, they've had problems in the past with Leeds fans... I think the Police have lumped all Northerners together as trouble-causers (descended from Vikings don't you know)... same as what happened at Yeovil.

Well, you Northerners are a rowdy bunch. Not like us Southerners, we're very quiet down here!

 

[SwissBlade]

Well, you Northerners are a rowdy bunch. Not like us Southerners, we're very quiet down here!

Except as we witnessed during the FA cup semi yesterday, during a minutes silence

 

[cjx blade]

I got two tickets in the stagecoach stand block A next to the away stand this morning.
Someone in our Devon office got them for me.
Im taking my 14 year old lad so we'll be sat on our hands for 90 minutes as I dont want any trouble while he is with me.

Im still hoping to get a pair in the away end but thought best to have a backup plan.

 

[stannyblade]

Been speaking this morning to my contact who is getting my hospitality tickets ( get in ) He says that they know that Blades are buying tickets for the home end. I did warn him months ago that it would happen