Cofie

[Racy]

DW says he can do job for us out wide he's got to having a laugh surely.

 

[SwissBlade]

DW says he can do job for us out wide he's got to having a laugh surely.

Think he needs to find his position, certainly didn't look interested v Walsall, but he has potential. Trouble is that he needs games as well.

I'd rather see miller given a chance though the middle than Cofie, so out wide looks like Cofies option

 

[dannycorker]

I'm fairly sure he can do a job for us out wide - he just chooses not to because he's lazy.

 

[Racy]

Miller brings more to the team at the moment than Cofie who at the moment is way short in confidence.

League One ain't a stage for these type of experiments Cofie seems to have had a ball at youth and under 21 level well son welcome to the real game son

 

[Princess Annes Dog]

DW says he can do job for us out wide he's got to having a laugh surely.

What do you know blah blah blah, Wilson's been in the game for years blah blah blah, he has all the coaching badges blah blah blah. Cofie looks like a fish out of water, not the kind of pampered football he's been brought up on but no worries, as per usual our fully qualified manager and coaches can see things that us mere mortals will never see. They see the players in training as well you know so don't worry about it mate, pro football is pretty much jobs for the boys and if Fergies told Wilson that Cofie's playing then believe it, Cofie's playing.

 

[GAZBLADE]

Westlake and Flynn alternating on the wings. I only say this cause God forbid giving McFadzean or Chappell(yes, i know he's out on loan!) a chance. To play Cofie out wide you may aswell stick Cressy out there for me.!!!

 

[Princess Annes Dog]

you may aswell stick Cressy out there for me.!!!

Sorry, that actually made me laugh

 

[Racy]

Ok I think most of agree that Cofie is a waste of time out wide is he worth persevering with or ring Fergie up and tell things are'nt working out.

 

[SwissBlade]

Ok I think most of agree that Cofie is a waste of time out wide is he worth persevering with or ring Fergie up and tell things are'nt working out.

I'm not sure we did, some of us suggested that it might be the best place for him.

 

[JohnDenver]

Ok I think most of agree that Cofie is a waste of time out wide is he worth persevering with or ring Fergie up and tell things are'nt working out.

He needs to deliver very soon or it's back to play for Man U under-21s please.

If we're in the business of investing in young players we should prioritise our own.

 

[Racy]

In the early days with Cofie I thought we had got ourselves a 20 goals a season striker.

I agree he has terrific pace but that docent make him a winger I personally think he could show more at a club where the expectancy is less but that would be as a front man.

If he stays at the Lane we will destroy him

 

[alcoblade]

In the early days with Cofie I thought we had got ourselves a 20 goals a season striker.

I agree he has terrific pace but that docent make him a winger I personally think he could show more at a club where the expectancy is less but that would be as a front man.

If he stays at the Lane we will destroy him

I keep hearing that he has lots of pace, but I actually don't think he has.

UTB

 

[Racy]

I keep hearing that he has lots of pace, but I actually don't think he has.

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He has over 10-15 yards that's enough for a striker

 

[alcoblade]

He has over 10-15 yards that's enough for a striker

I've looked for this in a coupe of occassions when he's at the side of other defenders, and he's either been unluckily up against a fast one, or he's just not all that.

I suspect the "young athletic black striker = shit off a shovel" preconception is at play here.

UTB

 

[Racy]

I've looked for this in a coupe of occassions when he's at the side of other defenders, and he's either been unluckily up against a fast one, or he's just not all that.

I suspect the "young athletic black striker = shit off a shovel" preconception is at play here.

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Yea I've watched him and his problem is he seems clueless when he has done the defender for pace.

I've looked for this in a coupe of occassions when he's at the side of other defenders, and he's either been unluckily up against a fast one, or he's just not all that.

I suspect the "young athletic black striker = shit off a shovel" preconception is at play here.

UTB

 

[SwissBlade]

He looks rapid, I don't think it's a misconception.

Possibly like Ched, he's struggling to adapt to the way we play, rather than fit in with our system he wants the system to fit to him.

Thought he looked like a rabbit in the headlights on Tuesday, but the confidence he showed at times against Bournemouth and the way he left his marker for dead for his goal (and the chance straight after) showed he had potential.

I wouldn't say that he's as good as Ched, far from it from what I've seen, but I wouldn't write him off just yet. He's got the pace for the wing, but whether he's got the nouse, I'd like to see more of him there.

 

[Racy]

I hear what you are saying Swiss but we've got to get out of this division and he isn't in the equation.

In the sort term Wilson must start Miller in a 433 formation playing behind Kitson and Blackwell with 1 winger Flynn and getting the fullbacks forward against Pompey.

 

[Princess Annes Dog]

Gary Lineker didn't have pace, a lot of great strikers didn't have pace......but they could read the game. Cofie is young, he's raw and he's not a natural so whilever he's with us he'll be hit and miss. Not his fault, he's just not ready for regular first team football as he just isn't good enough yet.

 

[SwissBlade]

I hear what you are saying Swiss but we've got to get out of this division and he isn't in the equation.

In the sort term Wilson must start Miller in a 433 formation playing behind Kitson and Blackwell with 1 winger Flynn and getting the fullbacks forward against Pompey.

Why do we need to change the system now?

But isn't this the point. Cofie isn't in the equation up front as we have Blackman and kitson doing the job with Miller and Porter next in line. So if we can stick with the same system (which would be more sensible) and if Cofie can do a job on the wing then everyone is happy

 

[GAZBLADE]

Gary Lineker didn't have pace, a lot of great strikers didn't have pace......but they could read the game. Cofie is young, he's raw and he's not a natural so whilever he's with us he'll be hit and miss. Not his fault, he's just not ready for regular first team football as he just isn't good enough yet.

You're right, it's not his fault but he doesn't fit in anywhere with us. We could have Gallagher back or another winger with him gone. We've got Miller, Philliskirk, Porter and Cresswell and even young Ironside could do what he's shown so far this season.
I'm sure the lads got a future in the game but i don't think we need to be bringing in raw talent on loan. We've got enough talented youngsters of our own. Just my opinion!
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COYRWW

 

[SwissBlade]

You're right, it's not his fault but he doesn't fit in anywhere with us. We could have Gallagher back or another winger with him gone. We've got Miller, Philliskirk, Porter and Cresswell and even young Ironside could do what he's shown so far this season.
I'm sure the lads got a future in the game but i don't think we need to be bringing in raw talent on loan. We've got enough talented youngsters of our own. Just my opinion!
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COYRWW

I agree, but now that he's here can we use him...I'd say we be daft not to try him on the wing, but he'll need a few games

 

[Racy]

Ok Swiss I can see you won't be moved with this Cofie/Wing situation so we will just have to see.

But I won't be moved by saying that we need three men up front when attacking Millar supporting Kitson and Blackman because although we are grinding out results we need put teams to bed when we lead.

If we don't we will find wanting against the better sides.

 

[Kenilworth]

Jake Cassidy is doing the business John Cofie is not - why is that?

Same division - both on loan from clubs higher in the pyramid - although you would expect one to have more quality than the other, it appears that one has adapted much better to date. Is it chances created for him or is it to do with the attributes of the player himself getting into goal scoring positions, anticipating where the ball wil be going, anticipating defenders mistakes?

I can see Cofie scoring goals from distance when he gets past his defender and unleashes one but he is not getting into the positions to pick up the "bits and pieces" chances - which is where Linekar was exceptional. That's down to inherent understanding albeit something that can be improved with experience. Not sure we have the luxury of persevering with a youngster who is not our player when we have plenty of our own who need the experience.

 

[puppet]

Cofies biggest problem is he spends his games trying to out do Blackman and vice versa. he has looked less interested as the weeks go on, we should sit down with him and Sir Alex and ask whether his heart is really up for the battle down in League One and either tell him to pull his socks up or just get rid.

 

[SwissBlade]

Ok Swiss I can see you won't be moved with this Cofie/Wing situation so we will just have to see.

But I won't be moved by saying that we need three men up front when attacking Millar supporting Kitson and Blackman because although we are grinding out results we need put teams to bed when we lead.

If we don't we will find wanting against the better sides.

I can be moved on the Cofie wing thing, but i think we need to see more of him there, not just short cameo's when he comes on cold off the bench. Starting him will do more for his confidence.

So onto the 3 up front point...

I don't see it, honestly. People seem to think that when you're struggling to get goals, whack another striker on. But I don't like that idea. We know that the system of 4-4-2 keeps things tight at the back so we've got a decent foundation to build on. But its the chances that we create, we either don't put the ball into where the striker is or the striker is not anticipating the chances.

I personally think that the supply lines into the strikers need to be putting the ball where the striker wants it and not the other way around.

I agree that Miller needs to be given a run in the team. He looked really good alongside Porter the other night as he played off Porter. Perhaps he can do this alongside Kitson or Cresswell, but I'm not sure he would be as effective alongside Blackman as I don't think Blackman is that type of player.

You're right about killing games off, but I'd say its more important against the better teams to control the game, than to go gung-ho up front.

Incidentally in the midfield 3 who would you have - KMac, Doyle and Flynn? It makes for a very light weight midfield in my opinion.

 

[sitwell]

I think Cofies main problem is bottle ,he pulls out of 60/40s never mind 50/50 s ,dont think we can coach that into him ,but i think Ferguson is prbably using us to toughen him up.

 

[Racy]

I can be moved on the Cofie wing thing, but i think we need to see more of him there, not just short cameo's when he comes on cold off the bench. Starting him will do more for his confidence.

So onto the 3 up front point...

I don't see it, honestly. People seem to think that when you're struggling to get goals, whack another striker on. But I don't like that idea. We kno




I think you will get your wish with Cofie before he departs and I'm as gutted as most Blades that things aren't working but hey theres still time .

The point I'm trying to make is that the two front men always seem miles apart when attacking playing Millar behind the front two would give you an attacking midfield option and support for Kitson and Blackman.
w that the system of 4-4-2 keeps things tight at the back so we've got a decent foundation to build on. But its the chances that we create, we either don't put the ball into where the striker is or the striker is not anticipating the chances.

I personally think that the supply lines into the strikers need to be putting the ball where the striker wants it and not the other way around.

I agree that Miller needs to be given a run in the team. He looked really good alongside Porter the other night as he played off Porter. Perhaps he can do this alongside Kitson or Cresswell, but I'm not sure he would be as effective alongside Blackman as I don't think Blackman is that type of player.

You're right about killing games off, but I'd say its more important against the better teams to control the game, than to go gung-ho up front.

Incidentally in the midfield 3 who would you have - KMac, Doyle and Flynn? It makes for a very light weight midfield in my opinion.

 

[Racy]

I think you will get your wish with Cofie before he departs but I like most Blades are gutted things aren't working out but hey there's still time.

The point I'm making is Kitson and Blackman always seem miles apart playing Millar behind the front men enables him to be an attacking option and an forward midfield roll.