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Its there in Black and white, but I still don't believe it. I need the usual suspects to come on here and tell me again how United are ripping us off!

A total of £17.20 can buy a ticket to a game, a programme, a pie and a tea.
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Funnily enough, I drove to the game on Saturday, forgot how difficult it is to get parked.

At halftime I got a pie and a cup of tea... Never had a cup of tea at the game before. But was amazed at how expense it was.

The pie isn't badly priced, but the cuppa was ridiculous. Its a bag, a plastic cup and 500ml of hot water... surely it doesnt need to be anymore than £1

We may be the cheapest, but we're not cheap.
 
Can't resist, is it talking about our chairman, our squad, or the whole SUFC package?
 
But this is based on the £10 ticket games; how many of those are there per season? We came out on top last year, but the survey is a bit skewed as they only look at the cheapest banding. If a club offered £1 tickets to all for one match a season that would make them the cheapest...unless there's a minimum number of games required.

There was an Arsenal fan on the radio earlier trying to justify his season ticket cost (Just under £1,100!).
 
I like how they mention our cheapest ticket price and compare it with Bournemouth's most expensive ticket price... which at £26 is erm... exactly the same as our most expensive ticket price.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19842397
 
Great, we are the cheapest in the league, if you take one particular game. It still doesn't get around the fact that the game is over priced from the merchendise, to the tickets, to the pies etc. I don't blame any individual at SUFC because we only play the same game everyone else does. The fair play wage structuring is a start but the point is being missed top to bottom of the English game.

Look at Germany if you want to see how to do it right. Wage capped and yet they still achieve at the highest levels in club and the European game. Ticketing is far cheaper than here in the UK in no small terms because of this. A season ticket for Bayern Munich is reportedly around £100!

We shouldn't be navel gazing within our own league if we want to improve the supporters experience we should be looking further afield. I guess you get the usual "but all our best players will leave" bollocks from the Premier League. Well as the international team are currently bobbins and have been for some time, let them go. Let Torres and co fuck off as well. Lets blood young home grown players and invest in them. It isn't a difficult solution if everyone wanted it. Problem is, its turkeys voting for christmas and the fans who take it up the wrong un every time.
 
I take a balanced view that whilst football is never cheap in any case, our club is at least trying to make it affordable for families on some occasions. It at least gives those on a tighter budget the opportunity to go to the odd game. Its difficult to be competitive on the pitch whilst striving to provide value for money. Football is just expensive full stop and every club has to keep up in terms of pricing to make success on the pitch viable.

The PL and Sky have caused the massive over inflation. Nothing to do with clubs being greedy. It wouldn't be like this if the whole landscape hadn't been changed and our national sport been turned into a gravy train.
 
So Huddersfields boycott of the lane last year was just pissing and whinging then :)
 
Patrick : Partially agree and certainly on the Sky/PL turning football into a gravy train. In the past I have always believed that these things burst after a time but I am not entirely sure it will.

My argument has always been that we have something very precious in this country, 92 clubs in a professional system. This is almost unique and should be protected at all costs. I have no sympathy with clubs like Portsmouth and Leeds United who have flown too close to the sun. They deserve everything they have got/will get. My sympathy goes with clubs like Rochdale. Fucked by Geography and being too close to Manchester for starters they always face an uphill battle. However, if there was a trickle down system of finances from the Premier League/Sky to these clubs they could be subsidised to a level where ticket prices were fair, the grounds were better maintained and existance was assured. If you combine that with a structured capping of wages then no one can break the bank and send themselves out of business. I have probably bored people with this one before but will go with it again because I believe it would work and is a piece of piss to implement:-

All the figures are rounded to make it easy for a simpleton like me:-

Premiership Players wages are capped to maximum £10k per week. It is ample for any person to live off a basic of £520k PA.

Premier League club gets 19m from TV. This is split into money per game (1/2m). This is the maximum you can use to pay your first XI plus playing substitutes. So if you want to pay Rooney 250k per week you can, but you then have less to pay the rest of your first team on a Saturday. So you still get your superstars if you want them.

This also frees up players because they won't want to sit on the bench because they can't get the salary. It also means there is a trickle down of better quality players into the Championship and beyond. Reason being it is better financially to start a game in the Championship than sit on the bench in the Premiership.

The bigger clubs with the bigger attendances can still pay the bigger transfer fees, you will never be able to stop that but I feel that is fair enough. You pay your transfer fees out of the rest of your income. Transfers are cash up front and not in staged payments. This negates paying on the never never and getting into trouble.

A good percentage of the Premiership money can then go into lower league development and the good of the game. All 92 league clubs are protected by this and you raise the standard. If you raise the standard then you raise the quality of players coming through the ranks. This improves our national team.

Ticket prices could be fixed because the clubs know they have subsidies to exist so long as they aren't stupid. From this position if someone goes into administration they are thrown to the dogs and replaced at the bottom of the ladder by a non league team at the seasons end.

There you go, please pull it to pieces at your leisure.
 
I think the high cost of going to matches combined with difficult economic times is affecting the attendances

around the country - except, perhaps, at the Lane. This season has seen higher attendances there than

anywhere else not only in in Div I but even at most clubs in the Championship - Weeds, Weds and Derby are the

only exceptions and I see that they are only 4 or 5,000 better than ours. Not so long ago Derby were getting gates

of nearly 30,000. For a recent Saturday afternoon fixture Birmingham City's attendance was only 13,900 or so.

Perhaps serious financial problems for many clubs are on the horizon.
 
I think the high cost of going to matches combined with difficult economic times is affecting the attendances

around the country - except, perhaps, at the Lane. This season has seen higher attendances there than

anywhere else not only in in Div I but even at most clubs in the Championship - Weeds, Weds and Derby are the

only exceptions and I see that they are only 4 or 5,000 better than ours. Not so long ago Derby were getting gates

of nearly 30,000. For a recent Saturday afternoon fixture Birmingham City's attendance was only 13,900 or so.

Perhaps serious financial problems for many clubs are on the horizon.
 
I hoped the BBC might have learnt after last year's pathetic attempt at looking at ticket prices but obviously not.

What does a a one-off cheap ticket have to do with the overall cost of football?

If Harrods sell a tin of beans for 5p one day a year are they a cheaper place to shop than ASDA?

They have to look at average ticket prices to give us some meaningful figures or even the average cheapest ticket price per club by taking into account all of that club's home games.
 
Well for the Bournemouth game I paid £ 10 for myself and £1 for the nipper= £11

For Olham same seats I paid £24 for myself and £12 for the nipper =£36

Add £9 for 2 bovrils, a pie and one portion of chips and £3 programme and it's a dear do for what turned out to be against Oldham one of the worst games ever, if a little exciting at the end. Won't be paying these prices again, not worth it. You pays your money and takes your choice

Won't park near the ground as expensive, got the train.

Great when it's cheap less so normally
 



The cost of getting to Sheffield is normally more than the ticket price (in the lower leagues at least....)
 
Grecian2000 said:
Really? What sort of pie was it, Safron rubbed quail and caviar?

£9 for that is fucking criminal.

Genital Warts!
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Interesting suggestion for the latest addition to the menu there Grex. Not even Heston has thought of that yet.
 
Has Tuns seeen this article? Hasn't he wriiten to the Beeb to let them know how expensive we are?

"It's a forward thinking price structure we need". Fuck this just being cheap shit. Sack the board.

:)

UTB
 
cahill said:
Add £9 for 2 bovrils, a pie and one portion of chips and £3 programme and it's a dear do for what turned out to be against Oldham one of the worst games ever, if a little exciting at the end. Won't be paying these prices again, not worth it. You pays your money and takes your choice
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Your nipper must be the only young un in the country who's willing to share his chips but demands his own Bovril :)
 
alcoblade said:
Has Tuns seeen this article? Hasn't he wriiten to the Beeb to let them know how expensive we are?

"It's a forward thinking price structure we need". Fuck this just being cheap shit. Sack the board.

:)

UTB
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Have you not yet realised the BBC report is fundamentally flawed? We may be the cheapest club in the league over a season or we may not but this report won't give us the answer.

Anyway my long running gripe (possibly obsession) is about how to drive up ST sales. That's where attendance levels are decided in modern football not on match by match sales.

I ventured to the Lane for the Oldham game, I paid a lot more than a tenner for shocking football in a library atmosphere. Bargain.
 
Tuns said:
Have you not yet realised the BBC report is fundamentally flawed? We may be the cheapest club in the league over a season or we may not but this report won't give us the answer.

Anyway my long running gripe (possibly obsession) is about how to drive up ST sales. That's where attendance levels are decided in modern football not on match by match sales.

I ventured to the Lane for the Oldham game, I paid a lot more than a tenner for shocking football in a library atmosphere. Bargain.
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I understand your gripe Tuns, you think football is too expensive. I'm pulling your leg fella. But it doesn't alter the point that you seem to have got the means and the end mixed up. The club can only realistically exist by maximising revenue. Season ticket sales are about pounds turnover, not 1000's sold. "You can't pay 'em in washers".

Either way, we are very cheap (in footballing terms), yet you don't seem to accept this.

They could have paid people £20 to attend the Oldham game. It would still have been shit. Of course better players would have delivered better football. And an increase on your ticket price. That's football.

It's up to "you and I" to address the library atmosphere. I do my bit. Do you?

UTB
 
Bladesway said:
Patrick : Partially agree and certainly on the Sky/PL turning football into a gravy train. In the past I have always believed that these things burst after a time but I am not entirely sure it will.

My argument has always been that we have something very precious in this country, 92 clubs in a professional system. This is almost unique and should be protected at all costs. I have no sympathy with clubs like Portsmouth and Leeds United who have flown too close to the sun. They deserve everything they have got/will get. My sympathy goes with clubs like Rochdale. Fucked by Geography and being too close to Manchester for starters they always face an uphill battle. However, if there was a trickle down system of finances from the Premier League/Sky to these clubs they could be subsidised to a level where ticket prices were fair, the grounds were better maintained and existance was assured. If you combine that with a structured capping of wages then no one can break the bank and send themselves out of business. I have probably bored people with this one before but will go with it again because I believe it would work and is a piece of piss to implement:-

All the figures are rounded to make it easy for a simpleton like me:-

Premiership Players wages are capped to maximum £10k per week. It is ample for any person to live off a basic of £520k PA.

Premier League club gets 19m from TV. This is split into money per game (1/2m). This is the maximum you can use to pay your first XI plus playing substitutes. So if you want to pay Rooney 250k per week you can, but you then have less to pay the rest of your first team on a Saturday. So you still get your superstars if you want them.

This also frees up players because they won't want to sit on the bench because they can't get the salary. It also means there is a trickle down of better quality players into the Championship and beyond. Reason being it is better financially to start a game in the Championship than sit on the bench in the Premiership.

The bigger clubs with the bigger attendances can still pay the bigger transfer fees, you will never be able to stop that but I feel that is fair enough. You pay your transfer fees out of the rest of your income. Transfers are cash up front and not in staged payments. This negates paying on the never never and getting into trouble.

A good percentage of the Premiership money can then go into lower league development and the good of the game. All 92 league clubs are protected by this and you raise the standard. If you raise the standard then you raise the quality of players coming through the ranks. This improves our national team.

Ticket prices could be fixed because the clubs know they have subsidies to exist so long as they aren't stupid. From this position if someone goes into administration they are thrown to the dogs and replaced at the bottom of the ladder by a non league team at the seasons end.

There you go, please pull it to pieces at your leisure.
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Agree with all of that in principle but it will never happen. Too much greed at the top/people protecting their own interests etc. The only other thing I would say is (and this is in a hypothetical situation where you could get all of those rules put into place) how would you stop English players going abroad for more money? That's assuming your idea was only for implementation in this country.....

Just a thought but I totally agree, everything you've said is what should happen.
 
PS : Our top players can go abroad now. Fact is no one actually wants them. Fact is they aren't technically good enough in the main to cut it in Spain/Italy. This only reinforces my point. How many times have you heard Rooney has the interest of Barca, Gerrard wanted by Real etc etc. Never happens though does it? My opinion is because they aren't actually good enough, which always reinforces itself when we come up against good opposition. FFS a 35 year old was running the show for Italy when they hammered us in the Euros. I know the score was 0-0 but they really did hammer us.

Your right, it won't happen but it could and should. Imagine pretty much assuring that no league club ever went bust again? Not a bad prospect is it?
 
alcoblade said:
I understand your gripe Tuns, you think football is too expensive. I'm pulling your leg fella. But it doesn't alter the point that you seem to have got the means and the end mixed up. The club can only realistically exist by maximising revenue. Season ticket sales are about pounds turnover, not 1000's sold. "You can't pay 'em in washers".

Either way, we are very cheap (in footballing terms), yet you don't seem to accept this.

They could have paid people £20 to attend the Oldham game. It would still have been shit. Of course better players would have delivered better football. And an increase on your ticket price. That's football.

It's up to "you and I" to address the library atmosphere. I do my bit. Do you?

UTB
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You should know I don't joke about the price of football Alco!

I disagree, think maximising revenue is better done by selling more STs at lower prices and by using clever not predictable marketing and selling techniques.

There's also all sorts of other spin offs to having more fans attending games.

As for the atmosphere I just can't believe how bad it has got. Real shame as going to the Lane was always something special especially as a kid and teenager standing on the kop. Today's younger generation won't be able to experience anything like it in their lifetimes. Yes I'm becoming an old fart but it's true.

It's a completely different experience now and I'm not sure I'd have become as hooked as young lad these days.

Not sure me standing up with my arms outstretched starting a 'United' will help - I'd probably get ejected but I'm happy to give it a go when the next cheap match is on.
 
Anybody who bases a financial report on a one off game from a season of 23 games is an idiot. The BBC must employ Kentucky fried muppets. Its like when the star have nothing to print so make a backpage headline out of us not interested in signing somebody.
 
I base my assessment on the fact that me an my 2 lads got season tickest for less than £350 in total.

You don't need BBC report to tell you that United are cheap in footballing terms.

UTB
 



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