Blades 3 Palace 2 - report

[SteelCity Blade]

the one sentence i knew i was guaranteed to read on hear after saturday was "over a poor palace team" how come every team we beat is "poor" ?

I think the term people are looking for is "average" which is suited to describe pretty much every team in the Championship IMO. The word "poor" is a little OTT in my view as no side at this level is poor in realistic terms. The division is however much of a muchness and the only differences between top and bottom are nous and confidence.

Palace were far from poor and after watching them 2 or 3 times now (including Saturday) I can only put their poor league position down to lack of confidence and bad luck because they look better than a lot of other sides ive seen this season. I cant see them being down near the bottom come the end of the season (I would be very surprised).

 

[judge]

i thought palace looked a well organised pacey counter attacking team that exposed our weakness in the full back area
i thought we were the better team and was very encouraged by the second half performance
i dont think bladesfans know how to enjoy winning anymore seem more obsessed by mccabe property deals

 

[SteelCity Blade]

i thought palace looked a well organised pacey counter attacking team that exposed our weakness in the full back area
i thought we were the better team and was very encouraged by the second half performance
i dont think bladesfans know how to enjoy winning anymore seem more obsessed by mccabe property deals

Palace looked reasonable. I wouldnt say they were anything to write home about but fairly good going forward and one or two handy players (mainly Vaughan and Danns). They will stay up fairly comfortably once they hit a decent run I would imagine. United did deserve to win though, we worked hard and had a real go second half which was pleasing.

In all fairness judge, I think fans feel that as long as McCabe recycles old rhetoric about ambition and investment etc. without actually finding a new revenue source.....then all they can see is that the club owes him loads of money and we dont have a penny to spend on the team. Supporters will find this frustrating, especially as the debt has come as a result of poor managerial appointments and poor decisions in the transfer market.

McCabe quite rightly wants what is owed to him, I dont think anyone is saying he's not entitled to what is his but folk arent going to want to spend their hard earned money every week to watch a team cobbled together from what was left of a clear out. We dont have a team really, its just built out of what has been left behind. That's no disrespect to the players who are trying extremely hard (and improving admittedly) but you can see the last 18 months was a retention programme designed to cut costs. It doesnt inspire supporters.

 

[Bridlingt blade]

Not sure but i thought sky said the average age was 23, so a good performance for such a young team.

 

[secretchief]

I've kept an eye on Palace and I think they actually have a far better team than last year. Garvan is good, even though he was stupid to get sent off, and Davis was impregnable until his usual brainstorm. Ok, it was a stupid penalty to give away, but he really dominated the space. We had fifteen corners, or something, and I can't remember us threatending from any of them. In Clyne they have a very young and promising fullback (he's still only 19) who we should have taken a punt on after flogging Naughton and Walker. I hadn't heard of Zaha before, but he looks a brilliant prospect (in the first half when he ran at people I assumed he was premiership winger I hadn't heard of that they had on loan, but he's come straight our of their youth system). He is fast, skillful, strong, can take people on, cross, and really seems to unsettle defenders. They did well to get Vaughan on loan, too. For a club in recent financial difficulties they managed to retain Speroni, who always plays the game of his life against us, and smashing Darren Ambrose, who, thank god, didn't play against us. Another victory for Administration.

By the way, I've just watched the highlights again, and the chance from Cresswell which was diverted onto the post met with a clear and deliberate handball by Zaha before it reached Speroni, so let's not feel too bad about the 'evening out' eventually evening out in our favour.

 

[Grecian2000]

i dont think bladesfans know how to enjoy winning anymore seem more obsessed by mccabe property deals

I think it's more a case of not getting carried away. Everyone I met after the game was more than happy with the win but not overly convinced by its nature.
Some people can see the bigger picture rather than just going overboard because three points were won.

 

[judge]

I think it's more a case of not getting carried away. Everyone I met after the game was more than happy with the win but not overly convinced by its nature.
Some people can see the bigger picture rather than just going overboard because three points were won.

im not advocating going overboard or getting carried away but a win is a win and when you are expecting a drab shotless nil nil even a pleasant surprise

 

[shorehamview]

"Not a good win"? So a bad win then? One of those wins that doesn't get you three points I presume. The league have started giving 1.5 points for not good/bad/poor wins then have they? No, thought not. So win = 3 points = good. And I'll quite happily take lots more "not good wins" please, and the three points they bring.

 

[bartman]

I assume you mean go on name them.......

Chengdu, Australian venture, Hungarian venture, Brazilian venture, some club in Belgium where we were going to get all these African players in and give them EU passports (sounds like a worrying history lesson if you ask me) etc etc etc. Pretty much every one of our foreign ventures has fallen on its face and cost us a not insignificant amount of money. Where do you think that money comes from? Also, if you think its about football and not about property you are more naive than I give you credit for.

Our chairman is busy maximising his own profile and SUFC are paying for it. I know its bad form to kick old Super Blade but I think its about time someone at least gave a nod in his direction rather than getting the prayer mat out every time he breathes.

Can't you provide the accounts or press article that says all these ventures have detracted funding from the first team ?

Critising KM for his decision making I can understand(Robson and giving him too much money to spend for example) but as far as I am aware,there is only (possibly) Chenghu that has cost us money

 

[Bladesway]

I think it's more a case of not getting carried away. Everyone I met after the game was more than happy with the win but not overly convinced by its nature.
Some people can see the bigger picture rather than just going overboard because three points were won.

Kerching. Thats exactly the point.

Bartman, simple fact here. We have spent money elsewhere and as such it can't be spent on the first team. No accounts required. How much time and money do you think all of the foreign investment has cost? Don't just take the physical cost of the venture but the man hours and salaries (these people don't come cheap).

I know the steam of KM's shit smells of Parma Voilets but at least be reasonable about the fact that money has gone elsewhere that could have gone into first team investment. Had you said the Academy was money well invested then we would have had a fair and reasonable argument on our hands. I am yet to see anything from any of our foreign ventures (Including Dongs venture over from China) that shows me anything other than its been an utter waste of cash. Rather than asking me about whether I have accounts to hand why don't you structure an argument showing why it isn't a case for concern.

 

[bartman]

Kerching. Thats exactly the point.

Bartman, simple fact here. We have spent money elsewhere and as such it can't be spent on the first team. No accounts required. How much time and money do you think all of the foreign investment has cost? Don't just take the physical cost of the venture but the man hours and salaries (these people don't come cheap).

I know the steam of KM's shit smells of Parma Voilets but at least be reasonable about the fact that money has gone elsewhere that could have gone into first team investment. Had you said the Academy was money well invested then we would have had a fair and reasonable argument on our hands. I am yet to see anything from any of our foreign ventures (Including Dongs venture over from China) that shows me anything other than its been an utter waste of cash. Rather than asking me about whether I have accounts to hand why don't you structure an argument showing why it isn't a case for concern.

It is difficult to structure a discussion with you with regards to fact when all you have given is opinion. My last post critisises KM re the Robson appointment (although would we have got Beattie,Naysmith etc without him ?). However you stated that other ventures had ditracted from funding the playing side(or words to that effect). Apart from Chenghu(which again I conceeded) I cant see that this has happened which is why I was asking you to show me otherwise.

What has taken our money is daft wages(Hendrie,Ugo,Carney,Sharp,Beattie,Naysmith,) and the fact we aren't on premiership income. I don't think any other area has taken money from the club...we just gambled and lost out and now we have to restructure to recover.