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What would blades fans give now for the 100%, never say die, blood and guts, put your life on the line for the shirt attitude now.
Whether you admit it or not, those were our best years....solid defence, honest players and effort...one poster said it earlier...now we've just got over paid posers who need a kick up the arse...just gutted at the minute...disgraceful!
 



@thelane said:
What would blades fans give now for the 100%, never say die, blood and guts, put your life on the line for the shirt attitude now.
Whether you admit it or not, those were our best years....solid defence, honest players and effort...one poster said it earlier...now we've just got over paid posers who need a kick up the arse...just gutted at the minute...disgraceful!
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No, our best years were pre-war but in modern times they were under Harris, Bassett, then Warnock.
I don't want him back but I'd like his passion back at the club.
 
I do want him back....I want the wind ups, the passion, that feeling of the hairs standing up on the back of my neck before kick off, the big physical players who wanted a war as soon as we kicked off, that atmosphere......I don't want the happy tappy, posing shit we've got now....its utter bollocks!
 
Think this was discussed earlier today, on the Tripple assault thread.

I loved NW. But asking him to come back now is like asking your Grandad to go and fight in the Trenches.
 
NW's days are gone. But when we banished him, we embraced the idea that we should turn our back on everything he stood for. A new "ethos". It was a fucking disaster.

We've gone for technical ability over power and pace ever since, and that has rooted us to this division for five years, and counting.

UTB
 
@thelane said:
I do want him back....I want the wind ups, the passion, that feeling of the hairs standing up on the back of my neck before kick off, the big physical players who wanted a war as soon as we kicked off, that atmosphere......I don't want the happy tappy, posing shit we've got now....its utter bollocks!
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Not Warnock but someone who can deliver all those things
 
WalthamstowBlade said:
People forget that in those 4 seasons he laid the groundwork for t'other 3.
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What got us up was McCabe deciding to invest much more money in the team.

As Warnock himself said.

I'm not slagging him (well, not too much) he provided some of the most enjoyable seasons I've ever witnessed, but he also produced some complete rank shite.
 



PeteBlade said:
A very simplistic view.

Like wishing Robson comes back because we would have finished mid table championship.
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To be fair Pete, a simplistic view is to say we had 3 good years in 7. We may have been a division higher when he took over, but my word that time really was dire straights. Turning that around was an enormous achievement.

UTB
 
PeteBlade said:
I'm not slagging him (well, not too much) he provided some of the most enjoyable seasons I've ever witnessed, but he also produced some complete rank shite.
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Like every single year since?

UTB
 
alcoblade said:
To be fair Pete, a simplistic view is to say we had 3 good years in 7. We may have been a division higher when he took over, but my word that time really was dire straights. Turning that around was an enormous achievement.

UTB
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I'm more talking about the style of football, comparing Gillingham to Real Madrid etc
 
PeteBlade said:
At a risk of repeating myself, being shit since doesn't make what went before previously better by default.
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True, but it puts it in a lot of perspective.

Lots and lots of promotions is an undisputable fact about Warnock, so I don't have to argue the point. :)

UTB
 
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Every game, ever under warlock we had 20 minutes of pure attacking let's fucking have them win lose or draw...

"They're saying warnock give us a wave, they'll be wanting me sacked next week"

"This lot won't realise how good I am till I've gone"

Two quotes, both true..
 
Tezza1889 said:
Every game, ever under warlock we had 20 minutes of pure attacking let's fucking have them win lose or draw...

"They're saying warnock give us a wave, they'll be wanting me sacked next week"

"This lot won't realise how good I am till I've gone"

Two quotes, both true..
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This is kind of my point. Every game? Really?
 
PeteBlade said:
What got us up was McCabe deciding to invest much more money in the team.

As Warnock himself said.

I'm not slagging him (well, not too much) he provided some of the most enjoyable seasons I've ever witnessed, but he also produced some complete rank shite.
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He produced 2002/2003 without the glorious McCabe's millions. And if investment is all it takes, Robson must have got us promoted.

Oh, wait...
 
PeteBlade said:
This is kind of my point. Every game? Really?
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No. Not at all. In fact, the opposite. I had to stop going under Warncock as every home game was dire, with a total of 1-5 shots (on or off target) divided up between both teams. The only actual entertainment was sitting behind him in the stands.

When it was bad under Warnock, it was soul-crushingly bad.
 
@thelane said:
What would blades fans give now for the 100%, never say die, blood and guts, put your life on the line for the shirt attitude now.
Whether you admit it or not, those were our best years....solid defence, honest players and effort...one poster said it earlier...now we've just got over paid posers who need a kick up the arse...just gutted at the minute...disgraceful!
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Reading this post brings back memories from 2004-5 of a bloke close by in the South Stand who shouted Fuck of Warnock and take that over-rated bastard (Jagielka) with you.
 
If we don't go up this season, and don't even make the play-offs, maybe we should just say "fuck it, we're going do whatever's necessary to get out of this division, no matter what it takes, even if we need to kick and hoof our way out."

I think Warnock might still fancy the challenge, but most of the players he knows are past their prime or retired, and he's maybe been out of the game too long to get a new set of his "type" of player. He'd definitely need a full pre-season.

Also he must be in his mid-60's. Age didn't used to be seen as a hindrance for a manager but it is today. For whatever reason, younger managers are preferred (though Wenger and Fergie are no spring chickens). It's been debated to death, though, and most agree there's little chance of Uncle Neil returning while McCabe still has a stake in the club.

Still, I haven't given up on this season - but we need to put 3 or 4 wins together starting now.
 
robbiez666 said:
No. Not at all. In fact, the opposite. I had to stop going under Warncock as every home game was dire, with a total of 1-5 shots (on or off target) divided up between both teams. The only actual entertainment was sitting behind him in the stands.

When it was bad under Warnock, it was soul-crushingly bad.
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So I presume you don't go any more as that pretty much sums up what we've had under the two Nigels. Without the dug-out entertainment.
 
robbiez666 said:
No. Not at all. In fact, the opposite. I had to stop going under Warncock as every home game was dire, with a total of 1-5 shots (on or off target) divided up between both teams. The only actual entertainment was sitting behind him in the stands.

When it was bad under Warnock, it was soul-crushingly bad.
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Warnock trebled the gates. You were in a tiny minority.

UTB
 
grafikhaus said:
So I presume you don't go any more as that pretty much sums up what we've had under the two Nigels. Without the dug-out entertainment.
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22 shots yesterday. A far cry from 1-5. Yes, it was bad under Weir and not great under Clough, but not to the levels of boredom and frustration under Warnock in the Championship when it wasn't working.

People seem to remember the good seasons but completely forget the bad ones. As for getting him back it's a ridiculous idea. We've all moved on. Look forward not to the past.
 



Love him or loathe him you cannot deny his record. The triple assault season had an element of good fortune about it (iffy's broken leg forcing a change of team) but it has to rank up there as one of the most entertaining seasons, full stop.

Warnock took a team that was on its arse and turned us into a team that was expected to challenge for the top spots.

The main point about the Warnock reign and the lesson the board should learn from it is blindingly obvious. We gave the man time to do the job. Imagine if in one of those "dog shite" seasons McCabe had sacked him.
 
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