What makes us different to the pigs?

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The majority of Blades and pigs are from and live in, the same city / county. We share the same workplaces, go to the same shops and parks, drink in the same places and most of us have friends and / or family on the other side. Some of them are actually alright - I'd go as far as to say that despite their failings, some are top lads / lasses.

Having followed the blades for years, home and away, I see my fair share of nob heads who also follow the blades, sometimes I'm ashamed that we 'support' the same club.

Despite all this, there is definitely something that sets us apart from them. You can very often spot them before they declare or display their allegiance when you first come across them. I would say that I'm seldom wrong when judging someone as blade or pig. I'm lucky in that the majority of my family are blades. You hear some horror stories from blades whose entire rest of the family are pigs.

So what is it? Apart from a geographical choice of who to follow, there is definitely something different about them. Is it something that has happened over the 80's when they were generally above us? Is it because of their rumbelows cup win, is is it something genetic or is it something that is grown over time?

I have family and friends in both camps and we can discuss our respective merits with a bit of banter, but without the nastiness that pervades most rivalries these days.

I have asked a similar question in recent years , the general answer is that it is Tribal. Tribal!! FFS
Sorry, I love my family ,and my friends from both sides of the football divide are precious to me.

If one or another group wish to knock seven bells of shit out of each other, I have no particular problem with that BUT please allow genuine football supporters and their families a safe afternoon evenings pleasure.

After all the result that matters is that our team win and as a bonus, the overworked hospital staff might be able to do what they are paid to do.
 

they base their "superiority "on winning the league cup , 1 trophy in 80 years
oh and magnificent glory nights in europe , which is in fact beating Spora Luxemborg
a team as good as stocksbridge park steels
it is a fact our overall league record is superior and wednesday have suffered 2 more relegations than us , but they ignore bad years , they never happened , another difference from us


Nice to hear that local side Stocksbrige Steels are getting publicity on this board Now, lets help SHEFFIELD CLUB:):):):)
 
they base their "superiority "on winning the league cup , 1 trophy in 80 years
oh and magnificent glory nights in europe , which is in fact beating Spora Luxemborg
a team as good as stocksbridge park steels
it is a fact our overall league record is superior and wednesday have suffered 2 more relegations than us , but they ignore bad years , they never happened , another difference from us

There's a lot of Stocksbrige Parks Steels hate all of a sudden ;)
 
Like many Blades, I have a couple of mates who are pigs, and they are OK. But there are definitely differences between the two sets of fans

We joke about "South Barnsley" but their location and fanbase is more provincial. It's a broad generalisation but I'd guess many pig fans come from the outer suburbs to the north of the city, whereas most Blades fans are located more centrally and are more diverse - ethnically, and also possibly in terms of income as Blades areas include some of Sheffield's wealthiest suburbs.

Pig fans are maybe more traditional working class, while we are more of a mixed bag and better for it.
 
I am a City fan. SUFC is my 'other' team. My best Mate is a Blade.We used to stand on the Kippax/Shoreham St when we were kids. (glory hunter) my last game was Spurs. I work with MUFC fans who can 'never get a ticket' but are decent lads. I don't think this is an easy question.
 
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they've simply got no class
i tend to be 'i hope wednesday do ok but i always want us to do better' (i don't.. i'm being diplomatic) but they always seem to be full of themselves and can't resist a dig at every opportunity
edit: thinking on i only have about three 'mates' in the whole of Sheffield who are pigs. interesting
 
It's all about pretending to be something you are not. I'm surrounded by wannabe posh fuckers where I live, always wanting what your neighbours got but the only way of getting it is by going to Brighthouse and paying extortionate rates still, if it makes you feel as though you have got one up then crack on.

Blades in the main are more honest, straight down the middle people, no delusions of granduer, proper working class fans, (even rich lads like Swiss are well grounded and remember their roots) Yeah we get the odd knob head but in the main we are solid and geniune, completely different from our chip on the shoulder porcine neighbours.
 
It's all about pretending to be something you are not. I'm surrounded by wannabe posh fuckers where I live, always wanting what your neighbours got but the only way of getting it is by going to Brighthouse and paying extortionate rates still, if it makes you feel as though you have got one up then crack on.

Blades in the main are more honest, straight down the middle people, no delusions of granduer, proper working class fans, (even rich lads like Swiss are well grounded and remember their roots) Yeah we get the odd knob head but in the main we are solid and geniune, completely different from our chip on the shoulder porcine neighbours.

You would think how they talk and how they act , majority of Wednesday fans go to Ponsfords not Brighthouse. :D

UTB
 
My old Dad always used to say to me years ago if the pigs have three good results you can add 5000 fans to the next attendance and how right he was. Opening game this season over 20,000 pigs at the game but since then no more wins = 16,000 pigs out of the 20,000 crowd against Middlesboro, given how the Tuna man is ripping the poor buggers off I can only see this phenomenon getting worse :):):) Oh yes and that Youtube clip of the pigs bowing to Tuna man in York pre season how embarrassing it must be to support the porkers.
 
I am a City fan. SUFC is my 'other' team. My best Mate is a Blade.We used to stand on the Kippax/Shoreham St when we were kids. (glory hunter) my last game was Spurs. I work with MUFC fans who can 'never get a ticket' but are decent lads. I don't think this is an easy question.
do you still go? my brother in law is a City ST holder, has been for years but says it was more fun before the glory hunters turned up. him and his mates have been going to Oldham games recently
 
I realise this is just a bit of fun, but I was asked once "what determines your allegiance, is it a Catholic//Protestant thing like Celtic/Rangers, Hearts/Hibs". My reply was that it was even more fundamental than that, we are all God-fearing Christians and Wednesday fans tend to be the devil worshipping anti-Christ.
In all honesty though Sheffield needs a good rivalry between the two, it's a big city. What bothers me is not the numbers of young lads walking round in blue and white shirts, but those wearing Man Utd/City or Cheslea, Arsenal tops. For me this represents the biggest threat to the sporting culture of our region.
 
I realise this is just a bit of fun, but I was asked once "what determines your allegiance, is it a Catholic//Protestant thing like Celtic/Rangers, Hearts/Hibs". My reply was that it was even more fundamental than that, we are all God-fearing Christians and Wednesday fans tend to be the devil worshipping anti-Christ.
In all honesty though Sheffield needs a good rivalry between the two, it's a big city. What bothers me is not the numbers of young lads walking round in blue and white shirts, but those wearing Man Utd/City or Cheslea, Arsenal tops. For me this represents the biggest threat to the sporting culture of our region.
don't worry .. they're students ;)
edit: and you're initial analysis was the wrong way around :) (just joking)
 

I'm just focused on the blades, I don't give a shit about them,

Unfortunately this elephant does;)
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They are well known in the bars on Pluto. We are not.
 
Slight irony that a lot of messages in this thread say "they're arrogant" whilst explaining why we're the best!

The boring answer is that you can't stereotype any group of fans into one simple description. All clubs have some loyal fans, some moaners, some pessimists, some thugs, some fair-weather fans, some braggers and everything else inbetween. It's pretty small-minded to pretend otherwise. Although culture and history can affect the balance of the groups above (Manchester United are, of course, more likely to attract glory hunters than, say, Rochdale), you'll still find examples of every type in any club.

Plus, it's good to remember that everything is relative. If we moan at Wednesday fans for being pompous and arrogant about being 'massive', we have to accept that Rotherham fans will say the same about us. Conversely, Wednesday fans laugh at Leeds for thinking they're a big club. In turn, Leeds think Man Utd are arrogant, whilst Man Utd probably think the same of Real Madrid.
 
I simply can't understand people who say we're 'basically the same'. We're not. We're chalk and cheese.

My lifelong affinity began in 1962. Like most people, I ended up supporting United because that's the club my dad first took me to watch. However, if he'd have been a Wednesdayite and took me to Hillsborough, I'm firmly convinced I would have gravitated to the Blades. It's a state of mind. An 'against all odds' mentality. A feeling of 'nobody's going to tell me what to do.' I'll try to explain.

Back then Wednesday had been chosen as a ground for the 1966 World Cup. In an act of favouritism and nepotism on a par with West Ham's totally-corrupt gift of the Olympic Stadium, a combination of FIFA money, then-Chairman Eric Taylor being the 60's version of Dave Richards (utterly corrupt) and interest-free loans saw Hillsborough develop into a truly awesome stadium. The North (cantilever) stand was jaw-dropping. The kop, although uncovered, was a vast terrace with electronic scoreboard at the back. The Leppings Lane end was also totally re-built. Like an ancient Aztec city, it was a marvel for its time and, like an ancient Aztec city, large parts of it can still be seen today. Under the rust.

And what did we have? A 3-sided ground, an old wooden stand and a primitive (but covered) kop. Against that background, I started at King Teds where it seemed everybody was a Wednesdayite. As time passed, I noticed the odd(!) kid who was a Blade. They were the individuals. The dare-to-be-different brigade. Oh, we were massively outnumbered but that made us all the more determined to be proud of the Blades.

In 1969 (could have been 1970) Santos of Brazil - complete with Pele - played a midweek, daytime friendly against the pigs at Hillsborough. In morning assembly, the headmaster announced that any boy (no girls at King Teds back then) who wanted to go to the match could have the afternoon off school. 'So. Who wants to go to the match?' he asked. 300+ hands shot up. As a joke, he said 'Who doesn't want to go to the match and have the afternoon off?' One hand went up. Mine.

Fast-forward a few years and I ended up in the Crosspool/Lodge Moor area. Every pub seemed to be packed with Wednesdayites. The Plough, Shiny, Sportsman, Tavern were all packed with the bastards. But slowly, it dawned on me that they may gob off about the pigs, very few actually went to the matches! For the 1993 semi, when I finally made it back a day or two overdue, I was in the Plough. 'You should have watched it in here!' said the usual smug pig 'It was packed with Wednesdayites!' 'Yes,' said I 'all the Blades were at the fucking match!)

Wednesdayites - very much like supporters of the Scottish team - choose to associate with their own. That gives them a blinkered view of their team, a disbelief that the team they watch is actually shite and a lack of perspective. Look at the legendary Shred, with whom I spent many happy hours. Honest, fun-loving, a refusal to take life too seriously and a love of booze - like most Blades (Do you seriously think that the fans of any other team could have dreamt up the words of 'Greasy Chip Butty'? No, it was the product of many hours spent on awaydays and in boozers). Compare Shred with the legendary Tango. Famous for being a massively obese exhibitionist. He belongs in a freak show which probably explains why he goes to Wednesday matches.

Blades are grimly pessimistic but realistic. And why not? To many big-game failures, last-day relegations and downright Tevez-style corruption. Wednesday, on the other hand, are fed a diet of bullshit by Radio Sheffield and The Stir. They really think that they are the only team in Sheffield.

But they're not. 45 years since they last averaged over 30k in a season. They still go on about a 4-0 game on Boxing Day 36 years ago. They're pathetic. This season, barring a miracle promotion push by the pigs, we'll get more home fans than them. Oh sure, they'll whinge on about ticket prices but what about last season? Without their ridiculous price hike, truth be told and taking off the large away followings brought by visiting teams to Hillsborough, there was barely any difference in home support between us and them.

One final thing. The Blades are a 'cult' team - an indefinable mix that makes us special. Perhaps the nearest other thing to a 'cult' team I can think of is St. Pauli. Crowds and loyalty incredible for our status.

Thank you for listening. :)
 
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When I was growing up, they were always the top flight side, the side with the bigger ground, the friends in politics, the England players, and the side that actually won a trophy.

Meanwhile we were the outsiders. Cash strapped, badly run, everything a struggle.

For some reason the attitudes that era gave rise to haven't quite faded away. Or at least they still shape perceptions. If we actually won something (hahaha), that would all change.
 
In the last 10 years or so they seem to have become obsessed with us.
I fear with threads like this, we are doing the same.

but....

I have noticed their home attendances over a season tend to be more variable from the mean than United's are... the gap between their highest and lowest crowds tends to be much wider than that with ours....

and the banter I get from some of them in my local boozers shows that they tend to have a very limited grasp of facts to base their "joshing" on (many of them truly believe we've never won a trophy at all, and have already forgotten that they've ever been in the third tier). Since, unlike them, we've had no post-war successes we have to digest our history to back up our ability to give it back to them - we tend to be better informed.


Didn't Radio Sheffield's Robert Jackson observe that Unitedites tend to be slightly cleverer, with a tendency towards growing moustaches? or some such...
 
The majority of Blades and pigs are from and live in, the same city / county. We share the same workplaces, go to the same shops and parks, drink in the same places and most of us have friends and / or family on the other side. Some of them are actually alright - I'd go as far as to say that despite their failings, some are top lads / lasses.

Having followed the blades for years, home and away, I see my fair share of nob heads who also follow the blades, sometimes I'm ashamed that we 'support' the same club.

Despite all this, there is definitely something that sets us apart from them. You can very often spot them before they declare or display their allegiance when you first come across them. I would say that I'm seldom wrong when judging someone as blade or pig. I'm lucky in that the majority of my family are blades. You hear some horror stories from blades whose entire rest of the family are pigs.

So what is it? Apart from a geographical choice of who to follow, there is definitely something different about them. Is it something that has happened over the 80's when they were generally above us? Is it because of their rumbelows cup win, is is it something genetic or is it something that is grown over time?

Basically ..... the majority of Blades are realistic, bordering on pessimistic.

The majority of the scum are arrogant, simpleton twats who think that they have a divine right to be at the top of the Premiership and winning the Champions League.

Simples ..... :rolleyes:
UTB & FTP
 
Just a simple equation developed by judge.

He calls Tories cunts and pigs cunts, so just asked the question. (you have to read general chat to know these things)

Think if judge saw a pig with a tory rosette then there would be murder !

UTB

I know a Tory pig, is there owt worse?
 
In 1969 (could have been 1970) Santos of Brazil - complete with Pele - played a midweek, daytime friendly against the pigs at Hillsborough. In morning assembly, the headmaster announced that any boy (no girls at King Teds back then) who wanted to go to the match could have the afternoon off school. 'So. Who wants to go to the match?' he asked. 300+ hands shot up. As a joke, he said 'Who doesn't want to go to the match and have the afternoon off?' One hand went up. Mine.

Same at my school, but have to say the chance of an afternoon off and the chance to see Pele was too good to miss even if it was at Hillsborough. It was a weird atmosphere, virtually no singing, and you could heard the players voices really clear. Glad I went and could add Pele's name to the list of great players I've seen.
 
If they went out of business tomorrow nobody apart from them would shed a tear. They are a nondescript outfit who bring nothing to the game.
 
OE Grafikhaus got it right but to précis his post, we have "class". Not in the sense of lower, middle, upper, but in the sense of that indefinable something they will never have.
 

I simply can't understand people who say we're 'basically the same'. We're not. We're chalk and cheese.

My lifelong affinity began in 1962. Like most people, I ended up supporting United because that's the club my dad first took me to watch. However, if he'd have been a Wednesdayite and took me to Hillsborough, I'm firmly convinced I would have gravitated to the Blades. It's a state of mind. An 'against all odds' mentality. A feeling of 'nobody's going to tell me what to do.' I'll try to explain.

Back then Wednesday had been chosen as a ground for the 1966 World Cup. In an act of favouritism and nepotism on a par with West Ham's totally-corrupt gift of the Olympic Stadium, a combination of FIFA money, then-Chairman Eric Taylor being the 60's version of Dave Richards (utterly corrupt) and interest-free loans saw Hillsborough develop into a truly awesome stadium. The North (cantilever) stand was jaw-dropping. The kop, although uncovered, was a vast terrace with electronic scoreboard at the back. The Leppings Lane end was also totally re-built. Like an ancient Aztec city, it was a marvel for its time and, like an ancient Aztec city, large parts of it can still be seen today. Under the rust.

And what did we have? A 3-sided ground, an old wooden stand and a primitive (but covered) kop. Against that background, I started at King Teds where it seemed everybody was a Wednesdayite. As time passed, I noticed the odd(!) kid who was a Blade. They were the individuals. The dare-to-be-different brigade. Oh, we were massively outnumbered but that made us all the more determined to be proud of the Blades.

In 1969 (could have been 1970) Santos of Brazil - complete with Pele - played a midweek, daytime friendly against the pigs at Hillsborough. In morning assembly, the headmaster announced that any boy (no girls at King Teds back then) who wanted to go to the match could have the afternoon off school. 'So. Who wants to go to the match?' he asked. 300+ hands shot up. As a joke, he said 'Who doesn't want to go to the match and have the afternoon off?' One hand went up. Mine.

Fast-forward a few years and I ended up in the Crosspool/Lodge Moor area. Every pub seemed to be packed with Wednesdayites. The Plough, Shiny, Sportsman, Tavern were all packed with the bastards. But slowly, it dawned on me that they may gob off about the pigs, very few actually went to the matches! For the 1993 semi, when I finally made it back a day or two overdue, I was in the Plough. 'You should have watched it in here!' said the usual smug pig 'It was packed with Wednesdayites!' 'Yes,' said I 'all the Blades were at the fucking match!)

Wednesdayites - very much like supporters of the Scottish team - choose to associate with their own. That gives them a blinkered view of their team, a disbelief that the team they watch is actually shite and a lack of perspective. Look at the legendary Shred, with whom I spent many happy hours. Honest, fun-loving, a refusal to take life too seriously and a love of booze - like most Blades (Do you seriously think that the fans of any other team could have dreamt up the words of 'Greasy Chip Butty'? No, it was the product of many hours spent on awaydays and in boozers). Compare Shred with the legendary Tango. Famous for being a massively obese exhibitionist. He belongs in a freak show which probably explains why he goes to Wednesday matches.

Blades are grimly pessimistic but realistic. And why not? To many big-game failures, last-day relegations and downright Tevez-style corruption. Wednesday, on the other hand, are fed a diet of bullshit by Radio Sheffield and The Stir. They really think that they are the only team in Sheffield.

But they're not. 45 years since they last averaged over 30k in a season. They still go on about a 4-0 game on Boxing Day 36 years ago. They're pathetic. This season, barring a miracle promotion push by the pigs, we'll get more home fans than them. Oh sure, they'll whinge on about ticket prices but what about last season? Without their ridiculous price hike, truth be told and taking off the large away followings brought by visiting teams to Hillsborough, there was barely any difference in home support between us and them.

One final thing. The Blades are a 'cult' team - an indefinable mix that makes us special. Perhaps the nearest other thing to a 'cult' team I can think of is St. Pauli. Crowds and loyalty incredible for our status.

Thank you for listening. :)



And that eloquently sums it up. Thanks Grafikhaus.
 

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