Knill gone?

[itsinyerblood]

FFS! Who else could it be?!!!?

As you're such a doubter I'd advise you to continue making uncertain statements, after all, all you seem to want is someone else to agree with you.

 

[knowsnowt]

Wilder getting rid of Knill lol.
To bring in some progressive #2?
Yeah that's totally aligns with his "I'm Mr sufc, and it's my way or the highway" mentality.
You couldn't make this up.

And if that is the case we're fucked beyond anything anyone could imagine.

Jesus fucking christ!

 

[bornablade]

If our manager is the big Blade that he proffesses then he should be actively involved in a succession plan for when he decides he to depart.

The long term future of the club needs to be addressed now and a strategic plan put into place. The last thing we want is for us to face another knee-jerk reaction of appointing another Selles.

Jones at the moment still remains in the 'Rumour Mill' but I would welcome the club making an appointment with a view to being a successor for the top job.

Let's think Liverpool - a succession plan of Shankly to Paisley to Fagan. They didn't do too bad did they?

Of course much of this depends upon whether our manager has the long term best interests of our club at heart.

 

[LBA_Blade]

It’s definitely not salary related as assistant coaches are not included within the calculations for squad ratio rules. However that does open the possibility to freshen up the back room team still.

CWAK M1 was probably the best combo in recent history, what they achieved on a little budget was outstanding until we got undone with injures and genuinely being worked out. Wilder MK2 shouldn’t have happened, there was no need to sack Hecky when they did. Wilder wasn’t going to turn a Premier League season around when we had a strong Championship squad.

However in that 2nd spell I did back his sacking as we have to remember we were top of the league in March and didn’t even need to beat Burnley to gain autos rather than settling for the playoffs we lost in the run in to Oxford at home which for us at that time is criminal.

The problem was the replacement although Selles talked a good game, he didn’t have the experience needed if we were to gamble on a foreign manager I would have preferred we have gone for Ralph Hasenhüttl, he could have brought fresh ideas but also had the experience. Although as unlikely as it seemed trying to get Dyche in by offering a lucrative contract possibly could have worked especially with a multi million £ promotion bonus as his waiting for barely a 5 month job at Forest getting the sack and still waiting for that new opportunity.

That being said taking Wilder at face value in his interviews (hard sometimes) he has said on numerous occasions he knows what needs to be done, he has a season to prove it if he is wanting a new contract otherwise next season is lining up his successor either through internal promotion or through extensive talks.

 

[247Blade]

Assumption it may be, but it's a speculative assumption not one based in anything vaguely factual.

We have to make things up .... cos the communication with the Club/Owners is shit!

 

[Bell4]

So the answer is bringing in a relative novice to replace him? Not for me.

Also if you are going to trust Wilder with the top job, then surely you have to trust his judgement in who he surrounds himself with on his coaching staff.

I’m not Wilders biggest fan but when you get owners making the types of decisions at a club that should really be the managers decision, it doesn’t often end well.

Do we factually know it was the owners decision?

 

[Bell4]

Sorry, but you are wrong.

If there's only been a few hundred thousand bet on the whole division and someone lumps £100k on one team, the bookie that takes it HAS to lay off the risk. This will in turn reduce Pompey's odds.
If you aren't convinced, go to the races and watch it unfold in front of you.

I’m not in any way an expert but I bet you’re right

 

[Bell4]

If our manager is the big Blade that he proffesses then he should be actively involved in a succession plan for when he decides he to depart.

The long term future of the club needs to be addressed now and a strategic plan put into place. The last thing we want is for us to face another knee-jerk reaction of appointing another Selles.

Jones at the moment still remains in the 'Rumour Mill' but I would welcome the club making an appointment with a view to being a successor for the top job.

Let's think Liverpool - a succession plan of Shankly to Paisley to Fagan. They didn't do too bad did they?

Of course much of this depends upon whether our manager has the long term best interests of our club at heart.

Plus millions to spend

 

[Uganda Blade]

Do we factually know it was the owners decision?

I think the only thing we know is that journos are reporting that AK has gone.
Beyond that it's speculation.

 

[Danetheblade]

Do we factually know it was the owners decision?

Nope, we also don’t know if it was the owners decision, or equally if it’s even happened outside Partridge commenting, and Wilders ringpiece in Hall commenting.

I think that’s the biggest issue, Knills been here for years alongside Wilder, I think he deserves a “cheers for your service” post at the very least.

 

[Jim Mcdonald]

They should create a new sexuality that should be applied to men like Alan Biggs so they should, I’d coin it the Wildermosexual. Does he sniff the seat Chris has been sitting on after he leaves the room?

 

[GeorgeDonis1889]

Yet you can’t post the actual posts you claim have been made. Odd that. It should be so easy to prove me wrong. Maybe they’re hidden along with all the hate posts.

Posted repeatedly the quotes showing the conversation and explained how I took it. Is it really that hard to understand why I've taken it as from January from the below.

We spent a fortune in January to back the manager and our form fell off a cliff.

Our form didn't fall off a cliff all season . We had a dip near the end

We also differ on the meaning of dip when discussing post January that season. It was shocking

As I say not at all unreasonable to take that as our form not including the dip. You know the referenced the dip and you've then said post January was shocking. The accusation of lying is just so silly here. You're only doing it because your argument doesn't stand up.

You keep asking about the Wilder hate. One post I sent you was literally calling him a ham faced cụnt and you don't class that as hate What do you want here actual death threats? You are genuinely arguing there has never been 1 piece of hate posted towards Wilder on this forum. It's laughable.

You're great at twisting things to make arguments but your actual arguments have no substance.

 

[mattbianco1]

Do we factually know it was the owners decision?

Biggsy has spoken

 

[Sean Thornton]

Posted repeatedly the quotes showing the conversation and explained how I took it. Is it really that hard to understand why I've taken it as from January from the below.





As I say not at all unreasonable to take that as our form not including the dip. You know the referenced the dip and you've then said post January was shocking. The accusation of lying is just so silly here. You're only doing it because your argument doesn't stand up.

You keep asking about the Wilder hate. One post I sent you was literally calling him a ham faced cụnt and you don't class that as hate What do you want here actual death threats? You are genuinely arguing there has never been 1 piece of hate posted towards Wilder on this forum. It's laughable.

You're great at twisting things to make arguments but your actual arguments have no substance.

The first bit makes no sense as nowhere did anyone but you only include certain results. Another poster picked you up on that. The form after January would rather obviously include all results until the league seasons end.

Literally?

“Like I just said it's thousands and thousands of messages. And then you'll just claim its not hate anyway

2 comments from 5 seconds of searching

"Miserable ham faced dinosaur"

"Wouldn’t surprise me.. sure he got his lapdog to do similar the last time he skulked out the back door. Complete twat"

Clearly they hate him.”

“Thousands”

No one called him a ham faced cunt. See your own post. You cant even repost those correctly! You’re making it up as you go along. Desperate times call for desperate measures, not idiocy and lies.

If you can’t curb your mendacity, you’ll never grow up to be a real boy.

I’ll leave it with you as it’s remiss of me to keep pointing out the obvious issues you have with reality.

 

[I should coco]

One's of the biggest LOL's out there is that bookies don't know anything.

Yeah of course. That's why they're all fucking minted!

I mean Denise Coates obviously doesn't know anything hence why she earns about a billion a year.

They are called 'bookmakers',because they make a balanced set of bets (a 'book').

The odds give song idea as to likely outcomes, but also reflect the weight of money waged. Look at England's odds in any game, either ti win, or score goals. They don't reflect the sensible likely outcome of the game, they have been massively reduced, to reflect the bookie's risks.

The Coates family are superb administrators of betting markets. They don't have to be clairvoyants knowing results, they just have to be good at setting odds.

 

[Davalon]

Biggsy has spoken

He knows all those things for sure but has no idea whose decision it was

 

[GrunkyPeep]

Proper tin foil hat moment:

Maybe AK wanted to leave, but CW wanted him to get a pay-out rather than just cancelling the contract. So the board have decided to let him go but really everyone involved is just playing the game to ensure he gets the payout he deserves.

 

[Bladesman]

Proper tin foil hat moment:

Maybe AK wanted to leave, but CW wanted him to get a pay-out rather than just cancelling the contract. So the board have decided to let him go but really everyone involved is just playing the game to ensure he gets the payout he deserves.

The rumour I have read is that he wasn't keen on coming back in the first place and apparently that goes as far back to when they were appointed after Hecky had been dismissed. If there is truth in that then he likely has only comeback as a favour to Wilder.

 

[Kona]

He knows all those things for sure but has no idea whose decision it was

I agree with the sentiment but do wonder if none of them are willing to state who it was due to liability reasons.

For example, Wilder has said it wasn’t him but it was ‘x or y’ and won’t put his name to it because it’s clear who it will have come from.

Whatever the reason, it’s an appalling level of communication from the club once again. I’m not someone who believes they should be telling us everything, but when there’s a rumour like this - it needs to be addressed.

 

[BangorBlade]

We have to make things up .... cos the communication with the Club/Owners is shit!

But surely if the owners are saying what's going on or whats behind AK's dismissal then it should be down to Bettis.

 

[Maidenhead]

But surely if the owners are saying what's going on or whats behind AK's dismissal then it should be down to Bettis.

He's the chief executive, he has to do what the owners tell him to do.

What really does amaze me though is that a business the size of SUFC appears not to have a PR Department, never mind a head of PR.

 

[wizadry]

I’ve read through 18 pages and I’m still non the wiser, I ask to not make me go through that again please chaps. I now know more about betting, the shape of Wilders head and Phil Jones ugly mush than I do of Knillys departure.

 

[Pedro Verde]

For example, Wilder has said it wasn’t him but it was ‘x or y’ and won’t put his name to it because it’s clear who it will have come from.

In the words of Shaggy 'It wasnt me'

 

[manxblade]

In the words of Shaggy 'It wasnt me'

Or "it was the caretaker who did it"

 

[Hilly]

He's the chief executive, he has to do what the owners tell him to do.

What really does amaze me though is that a business the size of SUFC appears not to have a PR Department, never mind a head of PR.

Of course we have a PR / Media team ffs.
It even has a head and Cookie is our King!

 

[Slug]

What's Rob Page up to these days?

 

[jt64]

Not entirely true, especially in long term outright markets.

If someone had £100K on Pompey to win the league tomorrow, their odds wouldn't shift. Traders at bookies aint daft.

Indeed. If they only reflected betting patterns, then every team would be 20/1 to win the league when they opened the market. Then the bookmaker would go out of business.

 

[Maidenhead]

Of course we have a PR / Media team ffs.
It even has a head and Cookie is our King!

Given that I asked a serious question they're bloody crap at their jobs.

I n which case I think it's probably time to get someone in that actually does the job and communicates with the wider fan base from time to time.

 

[I should coco]

What's Rob Page up to these days?

Last heard of, helping Wales not to qualify for anything.
Lots of angst face pulling though, and chest thumping.

 

[TJ blade]

Last heard of, helping Wales not to qualify for anything.
Lots of angst face pulling though, and chest thumping.

If / when Wilder does leave he'll be top of the bladey blades list