Danny Ings

[Booker4]

As Oli on Sheffield United way just said. If we wanted the likes of Mee, Ings etc then we could have signed them weeks or even months ago so they would be fit and had a pre season. It strikes me as a bit desperate and panic signings. Maybe we wanted them earlier but the said players wanted more money but I'm not convinced on that argument.

 

[Frank the tank]

As Oli on Sheffield United way just said. If we wanted the likes of Mee, Ings etc then we could have signed them weeks or even months ago so they would be fit and had a pre season. It strikes me as a bit desperate and panic signings. Maybe we wanted them earlier but the said players wanted more money but I'm not convinced on that argument.

Its pretty obvious whatever the strategy or plan was has changed
After three dreadful results

We were all in agreement last week the squad was six ,seven, eight players short and we've only brought one in or two if you include zatterstrom
So now we are desperate and with our budget and only two loans left we were bound to try the out of contract market

At least it looks like they are stomping up the money needed

 

[designedbyross]

Screaming out for a forward, forward starts training with club. Fans say he is too old, too unfit and not right. Despite evidence to contrary. Ings at 32/33 will be a good acquisition for the Championship for one year. Jesus. This club and fans.....just want to pick the bones out of everything.

You’re literally reading a fans forum, that’s the whole point?

 

[raimond]

Ings was available most of the time for West ham in his 2 years. 50 plus appearances.

And scored 4 in that time. Altogether.

Slightly harsh but you could basically say he's had 4 good seasons in his career (he's scored 20+ twice- for Burnley 11 years ago and Southampton 6 years ago ...plus a couple where he scored one in four in struggling Premier teams and did alright).

He's not the experienced goalscorer who's banged in a couple of hundred in his career, his record's not that great and he's not scored regularly for a long time. A bloody long time.

You never know though eh, and at the minute "Is he better than Tom Cannon?" is a pretty effing low bar innit.

 

[Suomi_Blade]

I think why not to Ings and Redmond, both have premier league experience.

Also, if the board signs no one people moan, if we dont sign messi people moan, if we dont sign a 25 year old leading premier league player people moan - they cant win.

No doubt I'll get 'they are bad', 'they are old', 'they are always injured', blah blah blah - in that case we'll go with dont sign anyone.

Let the good times (sausage) roll.

 

[scouseblade]

You’re literally reading a fans forum, that’s the whole point?

Point is NO ONE on this forum is ever happy. Its intensively negative and full of doomongers. You'd think we were Morecombe ffs. Yes it is an exciting potential signing, no. Does it smack of desparation? Yes, do we need to be desparate? Yes. So fucking embrace someone who might offer us something different. Otherwise we are stuck with a misfiring Cannon and an out of form Campbell.

 

[Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou]

And scored 4 in that time. Altogether.

Slightly harsh but you could basically say he's had 4 good seasons in his career (he's scored 20+ twice- for Burnley 11 years ago and Southampton 6 years ago ...plus a couple where he scored one in four in struggling Premier teams and did alright).

He's not the experienced goalscorer who's banged in a couple of hundred in his career, his record's not that great and he's not scored regularly for a long time. A bloody long time.

You never know though eh, and at the minute "Is he better than Tom Cannon?" is a pretty effing low bar innit.

The experience plays a massive part though. Look at Sharp and Didzy at the same age? Very valuable to the squad in alot of ways.

Also he's an improvement on most of our attackers.

 

[Houston_Blade]

Would you prefer Ollie Watkins instead?

Ings over Cannon anyway..

Isak’s wanting out, we need to show some ambition!

 

[CaptainMorgans]

Tbf, I'm intrigued to see Ings at this level and we're crying out for some experience & leadership.

I didn't appreciate he'd not been missing games through injury.

No harm in giving him a trial.

For Redmond, see Tom Davies.
I can't see that one working. It didn't at Burnley.

 

[Booker4]

You're right that we need more player

Its pretty obvious whatever the strategy or plan was has changed
After three dreadful results

We were all in agreement last week the squad was six ,seven, eight players short and we've only brought one in or two if you include zatterstrom
So now we are desperate and with our budget and only two loans left we were bound to try the out of contract market

At least it looks like they are stomping up the money needed

You're right we're way short. We all know we need at least a RB, CB, CF and RW. But why not look at burying someone from abroad like what Coventry did so well with Hamer. Not a 20 year old from the Bulgarian league but more like the Zatterstrom signings who is clearly a very talented player, although at 20 again he's going to need more time than we can possibly afford.

Or maybe a loan to buy option like Sunderland did to good effect. Redmond has had so many injuries and barely played in over a year. I like him too as a player I may add.

 

[Houston_Blade]

And scored 4 in that time. Altogether.

Slightly harsh but you could basically say he's had 4 good seasons in his career (he's scored 20+ twice- for Burnley 11 years ago and Southampton 6 years ago ...plus a couple where he scored one in four in struggling Premier teams and did alright).

He's not the experienced goalscorer who's banged in a couple of hundred in his career, his record's not that great and he's not scored regularly for a long time. A bloody long time.

You never know though eh, and at the minute "Is he better than Tom Cannon?" is a pretty effing low bar innit.

Think of Ings as a Brewster replacement and you’ll be fine.

 

[steve26272]

It stinks of desperation doesn’t it. And a failed transfer strategy.

2 weeks ago people complaing about us buying young prospects

Now with Mee. redmond & ings we’re recruiting experience we’re moaning they’re too fuckin old

“can’t we get a 28year old with prem experience, great injury record and proven goal scorer ?’ They ask .

Seol & Tanganga are sweet spot, we need bodies also

Barkley & Townsend did ok for Luton couple years back

maybe give the new lads a few games, or even sign a fuckin contract before deciding they’re shit?

 

[designedbyross]

Point is NO ONE on this forum is ever happy. It’s intensively negative and full of doomongers. You'd think we were Morecombe ffs. Yes it is an exciting potential signing, no. Does it smack of desparation? Yes, do we need to be desparate? Yes. So fucking embrace someone who might offer us something different. Otherwise we are stuck with a misfiring Cannon and an out of form Campbell.

Most people think Ben Mee would be a good signing? Same with Tanganga? You’ve just explained pretty well why Ings and a few other recent names are hardly inspiring.

 

[scouseblade]

Most people think Ben Mee would be a good signing? Same with Tanganga? You’ve just explained pretty well why Ings and a few other recent names are hardly inspiring.

Name me one signing this summer that has you going "f**k me, what a player" We are clearly in the mire financially having backed Wilder in January to the hilt. That has backfired. So now, we have to take gamble or go for older out of contract experience.

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

…….

You never know though eh, and at the minute "Is he better than Tom Cannon?" is a pretty effing low bar innit.

I’m going to reserve judgement until Ings is stuck wide right with his back to goal & a none existent midfield

 

[true99blade]

Did the owners call Wilder just to ask for a list of players we should go for. This stinks.

 

[Macfarlane21]

This is going to end so badly!

Ings will probably cost us at least 40k a week. To think we could have gone after Billing to add some real bite / experience to the midfield for similar is an absolute joke.

Redmond being on trial/training with us is on a completely other level, he should be playing in the Australia A league.

Embarrassing!!!!

 

[Weasel]

It looks to me that we have had all summer, tried to get 'value for money', the strategy hasn't worked (quelle surprise) and now the 4 defeats and the manner of them has focused minds. So much so, we are exploring all sorts of possibilities and it could end up costing us more now we're desperate, when maybe a bit more financial leverage and a better pro active strategy in the summer would have helped alleviate such a last minute panick.

If its true that we could have had these lads in earlier, training and up to speed, and then we then go on and sign them anyway 3 league games in... then thats almost laughably bad. Shakes head in bewilderment.

That said, we desperately need more experience and leaders in the squad. Mee and maybe these lads would do a job for us providing the wages aren't silly. But then we have to get them up to match conditionally.... chuck a few more defeats in then as we arse about getting them fit.

 

[1889]

That's just not true is it. ?

Yes, It certainly has been this season. I think if Brooks is running full tilt and instinctively going past players he’s quite effective. It’s when the defender backs off and he’s got time to think, that he’s usually dispossessed.

 

[1889]

Yep, it smacks of 10 to 2, and the beer goggles are persuading you to make a move for the girl with her front teeth missing.
Speaking from experience!

Better than having to play with ten

 

[HOT CURRIE 10]

2 weeks ago people complaing about us buying young prospects

Now with Mee. redmond & ings we’re recruiting experience we’re moaning they’re too fuckin old

“can’t we get a 28year old with prem experience, great injury record and proven goal scorer ?’ They ask .

Seol & Tanganga are sweet spot, we need bodies also

Barkley & Townsend did ok for Luton couple years back

maybe give the new lads a few games, or even sign a fuckin contract before deciding they’re shit?

We could do with Barkley,orchestrated everything Luton did. Bit part player at Villa,pay £20 of his wages,job done. Seriously,a good player who probably is out of our reach.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

As Oli on Sheffield United way just said. If we wanted the likes of Mee, Ings etc then we could have signed them weeks or even months ago so they would be fit and had a pre season. It strikes me as a bit desperate and panic signings. Maybe we wanted them earlier but the said players wanted more money but I'm not convinced on that argument.

Surprised Oli didn’t consider that weeks or months ago we didn’t know that Robinson was going to rock the boat and have interest, or that RND would either for that matter. You can’t keep stockpiling players and keep the wage bill within sensible levels.
The other thing is they wouldn’t have agreed a months ago to the wages they probably will now because they’d want to consider all offers on table before committing.

 

[PaddysMad]

Some saying it was a lie but here are Ings and Redmond today training on this picture

 

[designedbyross]

Name me one signing this summer that has you going "f**k me, what a player" We are clearly in the mire financially having backed Wilder in January to the hilt. That has backfired. So now, we have to take gamble or go for older out of contract experience.

I mean that’s pretty difficult given we’ve only signed about 3 players anyone’s heard of

We’ve sold players for £20m+ and we’re apparently about to sign Tanganga for £7m so I don’t think we’re in too bad of a situation, it could be a lot worse?

And to quote you from literally an hour ago:
“Point is NO ONE on this forum is ever happy. It’s intensively negative and full of doomongers. You'd think we were Morecombe ffs.”

I can’t spek

 

[bladesmanluke]

At the moment, it seems that nobody at the club from top to bottom seems to have a clue what they're doing.

Helmy Eltouky and Steve Rosen could be the smartest people in the world but it doesn't mean they know the first thing about football.

Exactly that. Clearly they're very intelligent people, but the arrogance to assume they can re-invent the wheel with this mental recruitment strategy is insulting to football scouts across the country.

They don't know the first thing about football. They will genuinely know less than almost everyone on this forum.

As much as it smacks of desperation I would take Ings and Redmond now. Our owners earlier mistakes have led us to this position, but we do need the leadership those 2 players would provide

 

[Frank the tank]

Yes, It certainly has been this season. I think if Brooks is running full tilt and instinctively going past players he’s quite effective. It’s when the defender backs off and he’s got time to think, that he’s usually dispossessed.

Yeah this season I would agree
But that wasn't the point I was disagreeing with

 

[CoatesyBlade]

Ings is a proper striker!!
Gerrim in!

 

[Brownieblade]

As Oli on Sheffield United way just said. If we wanted the likes of Mee, Ings etc then we could have signed them weeks or even months ago so they would be fit and had a pre season. It strikes me as a bit desperate and panic signings. Maybe we wanted them earlier but the said players wanted more money but I'm not convinced on that argument.

Why waste squad spots if a few players become available to buy in last week of window, I’m not aiming this at you but sometimes it’s worth holding on and seeing rather than panicking and jumping straight in

Especially if you can get those same free players later in window or after, and we know you can as all 3 are available

 

[scouseblade]

I mean that’s pretty difficult given we’ve only signed about 3 players anyone’s heard of

We’ve sold players for £20m+ and we’re apparently about to sign Tanganga for £7m so I don’t think we’re in too bad of a situation, it could be a lot worse?

And to quote you from literally an hour ago:
“Point is NO ONE on this forum is ever happy. It’s intensively negative and full of doomongers. You'd think we were Morecombe ffs.”

I can’t spek

Not doomongering, I think we'll be fine. Just not pushing for promotion

 

[Stretch]

Tbf, I'm intrigued to see Ings at this level and we're crying out for some experience & leadership.

I didn't appreciate he'd not been missing games through injury.

No harm in giving him a trial.

For Redmond, see Tom Davies.
I can't see that one working. It didn't at Burnley.

I was listening to the SU Way video on these two earlier, and the lads were saying that although Redmond didn't tear it up on the pitch for Burnley, apparently all the talk from within the club and the fanbase was how important he had been in the dressing room and helping some of the less experienced players up their game.

I suppose the question is how much of the wage budget do you want to use on that, and whether it should be something the coaching staff are doing?

Personally I used to love watching Redmond when he was at his best, so if we can get just a bit of that, it might be worth a punt.