Outgoing? Kieffer Moore

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If we can find a similar type of player but younger and and free...

Mcburnie would suit the system more although I think having Moore as a different option isn't a terrible idea the only tick I have against him is his contract length so this might be the one chance to make the change.
 

I do feel for him a bit. His shirt will be the heaviest out there and judging by pre-season so far he's really feeling it. He doesn't look composed, confident or clinical at all in these last games. I didn't dig him out at all on here after Wembley, everyone makes mistakes and although it was ultimately his misplaced pass that killed us, he wasn't the only player at fault in that game.

He does offer us something different and did OK last season helping us get to the play-offs, but, you have question how much he actually offers to the team overall rather than just the different skillset he can offer.

All I can think of at the moment is that he's decent in the air and is sometimes OK at holding the ball up. As Rodley says above, if we can replace those abilities with someone who can do that and more (no pun intended), then it's best to try and move him on. If not, lets quietly hope RS can work with him and make him useful this coming season.
 
Moore is fine as long as you’re not expecting him to use his feet or brain. He’ll do well in a Parkinson team as all he’ll need to do is win headers and second balls.

Oné has showed so much more this preseason i’d be happy with one of Campbell/Cannon/Oné up top.
 
i think moore will be moved on just dont see him as a selles type of striker and dont see mcburnie as a selles type of striker either this 433 set up will be a 4123 formation imo front 3 could well be brooks and barry either side of cannon or campbell peck or soumare as the dm and hamer if he stays and o'hare as the 2 and if seriki and burrows are going to be pushed higher up the pitch it looks like a very attack minded system to me
 
I think a move would be best for all concerned after the play off match. His confidence will be absolutely shot, and everytime he misses a chance/misplaces a pass there will be groans and fans will get on his back.

I also don't think the type of striker he is suits us, we need someone more mobile and look a lot better when we play Campbell through the middle. We just need to get his fitness up and get 90 minutes from him, but One looks like an able deputy.
 
If however we intend playing with proper wingers to get to the big line and pull it back we need a target man to take advantage.
Playing through midfield does not require us to have a guy to hit with long balls from back to front
 
Moore is public enemy number one for many after Wembley and it appears to be preying on his mind, he actually was having his best spell at the club leading into and through the play off semis.. but he has looked utterly awful in these pre season games.. maybe moving on is best for all concerned
 
He never looks dangerous in front of goal. Hes past his peak and will be on a decline. Will be on a decent wage too.

Sell if we can
 
He is past his peak, he probably has had a giant knock to his confidence and he won't suit Plan A or B under Selles.

So although he does offer us something different (and sometime effective), it would make a lot of sense if we could get his wages off the books (and a bit of pocket money).
 

Bladesman said:
Another player we gave a 3 year deal to.
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I didn’t understand the logic at the time and said on here.

We low-balled McBurnie apparently offering him a 60% pay cut. He almost signed it and then the lifestyle change came along and he took that.

McBurnie is 4 years younger than Moore and is a better player.

We let McBurnie walk for nothing. Spent £2milllion on Moore and then will be paying him a wedge on a 3 year deal into his mid 30’s.

Literally nothing made sense about that deal to me. We should’ve just offered McBurnie say 40% cut, got him to sign it quickly. Kept a better player who is 4 years younger, would’ve retained some sell on value and probably overall cost less than the Moore deal.

Not just the play off final either he’s been either injured or shite barring 3/4 games. Cardiff away and the play off semi finals is about all I can remember where I thought he’s had a good game there
 
Despite the perceived delusions of grandeur, this season will be all about consolidation for Wrexham.

Players like Windass and Moore are excellent targets, to that end, the first objective being to keep clear of a relegation battle (for the two remaining places).
 
ben1987 said:
I didn’t understand the logic at the time and said on here.

We low-balled McBurnie apparently offering him a 60% pay cut. He almost signed it and then the lifestyle change came along and he took that.

McBurnie is 4 years younger than Moore and is a better player.

We let McBurnie walk for nothing. Spent £2milllion on Moore and then will be paying him a wedge on a 3 year deal into his mid 30’s.

Literally nothing made sense about that deal to me. We should’ve just offered McBurnie say 40% cut, got him to sign it quickly. Kept a better player who is 4 years younger, would’ve retained some sell on value and probably overall cost less than the Moore deal.

Not just the play off final either he’s been either injured or shite barring 3/4 games. Cardiff away and the play off semi finals is about all I can remember where I thought he’s had a good game there
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Not sure thats all entirely accurate.

We did indeed offer McBurnie a lower deal than he was on. Out of contract, signed in the Prem and we were, at that time still short on funds since the takeover hadn't gone through and lots of players had left already. We were also pushing to sell a number of others, but the deals hadn't been done.

Jebbison was sold to Bournemouth and a number of days later, with McBurnie not having signed a deal with us to stay, we signed Keiffer Moore for pretty much what we'd made on the Jebbison deal. McBurnie later took an offer to go to the Canaries and play La Liga.

If we'd offered McBurnie the smaller cut as you say and he still took the chance in La Liga, but then lost out on Moore, we'd have looked pretty daft.
 
Fucking PLEEEEEAAAAASEEEEE

He may have 'scored' the winner yesterday but he was fucking dreadful. He can't see things infront of him. There was a clear pass, straight in front of him, to play Cáceres clean through 40 seconds before that. And he always tries them stupid backheels and flicks that he just can't do. And they never come off. And he always throws his hands in the air as if to say 'well they usually come off'.

He's not remotely amusingly shit. He's just infuriatingly shit.
 
I wouldn’t be sad by this at all. Likely on a decent whack and his best days are behind him.
 
Keep him, he is an old fashion bully up front. Similar to Billy Whitehurst but not just a fucking animal. Loved Billy 😍
 
SwissBlade said:
Not sure thats all entirely accurate.

We did indeed offer McBurnie a lower deal than he was on. Out of contract, signed in the Prem and we were, at that time still short on funds since the takeover hadn't gone through and lots of players had left already. We were also pushing to sell a number of others, but the deals hadn't been done.

Jebbison was sold to Bournemouth and a number of days later, with McBurnie not having signed a deal with us to stay, we signed Keiffer Moore for pretty much what we'd made on the Jebbison deal. McBurnie later took an offer to go to the Canaries and play La Liga.

If we'd offered McBurnie the smaller cut as you say and he still took the chance in La Liga, but then lost out on Moore, we'd have looked pretty daft.
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What isn’t accurate you’re not contradicting anything.

The McBurnie deal was on the table for a good few weeks while he deliberated. It was reported at the time he was almost ready to accept and then got the offer to go and live in the Canaries which he decided to take as a lifestyle change.

The point is that if we had not lowballed him by quite so much he may have signed sooner and not even got to the point where another offer came in to tempt him away

We could have then used the Jebbison compensation fee to do another deal. The Jebbison compensation was rumoured to be approx £1.5m, we used that to pay the rumoured £2m ish fee for Moore.

Moore will not be on a lot less than we were trying to re-sign McBurnie for. Perhaps even more. McBurnies deal was signed in the premier league but we signed Moore from a premier league club. He won’t be on peanuts. I doubt he’ll have taken that much of a cut when a few clubs were after him and he’s got a couple of promotions on his CV.

I imagine we’ve paid more in total for the Moore deal than McBurnie would’ve cost us. £2m fee and then wages versus just wages. Which in my opinion is paying to downgrade.

We started desperately short on numbers last year and if that Jebbison money could’ve been used elsewhere that would have been better for the squad imo.
 

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