Poor showing from United fans today.

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me too, this was meant to be a celebration, but yet a few fickle fans couldn't see past a little thing like an ex player coming back.

The atmosphere never seemed to get going today, maybe it was the early kick off time, I don't know, what I do know is less time should be spent booing ex players and more time supporting the players we have.
 
It made us appear bitter and petty.

What made it even worse was that they put more effort into booing a very talented player who put in some very good performances for us than they did the ex-pigs in the Wolves team.

I wish we had McDonald playing for us now. He would be outstanding with Scougall and the reinvigorated Murphy and Flynn, not to mention Brayford and Harris.
 
Yawn...some people just love to have a go at the fans. I wish McDonald was still playing for us - but he isn't because he left us for more money, after we had helped resurrect his career. So some fans booed him. I'd imagine every set of fans in the country would have done the same in the same circumstances.
 
Deano said:
Yawn...some people just love to have a go at the fans. I wish McDonald was still playing for us - but he isn't because he left us for more money, after we had helped resurrect his career. So some fans booed him. I'd imagine every set of fans in the country would have done the same in the same circumstances.
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He didn't leave for more money, United matched his wage. He left for a far, far better side.

axel smeets said:
As a set of fans, it is very rare that we ever boo returning ex players. Is this just an excuse to have a moan?
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Indeed, it used to be beneath us. Poor show yesterday but it isn't typical.
 
Guesty said:
He didn't leave for more money, United matched his wage. He left for a far, far better side.

or to get away from Weir



Indeed, it used to be beneath us. Poor show yesterday but it isn't typical.

players used to leave to better themselves, many see this as money grabbing.

Contradiction I know with what I've said above but most players who come back are known to have feelings for The Blades and are treated with respect.

Was Kenny the last one to be booed?
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I didn't boo him but I can see why many did.

For those short memory enough, Mcdonalds career had hit somewhat of a stumbling ground after his injury at Burnley and it was United who took him in, got him fit and gave him a trial before taking him on. We in theory re-ignited his fledgling career and got him back on the right track.

Money talks in football and after his injury I think he will have been in the mindset to make as much as he can as quick as he could knowing that another injury could have seen the end to his playing days. I don't however understand the side step to wolves at the time that he did it, especially so if we did as rumoured table the same salary as them. Had a championship club come in then it would have been more of a no brainer but I guess at the time McDonald looked at Wolves with the parachute money and us in the dire state we were in at the time and went where he thought he would gain more success despite everything we have done for him.

McDonald's vision for a pass was second to none but we have moved on to an exciting new era now and need to put all of the past behind us, the few years have been crap for various reasons but we can't pin all of this on McDonald. Too many factors involved and I doubt we will never know the truth as to why he went to wolves, who knows it could well have been a significant amount of under-ambition by our club.
 
Guesty said:
He didn't leave for more money, United matched his wage. He left for a far, far better side.



Indeed, it used to be beneath us. Poor show yesterday but it isn't typical.
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Beneath us? When?

If a player decides he would rather play for someone else rather than us he deserves every bit of stick he gets.

It's a passionate game not a bloody theatre show, even if the games rulers are doing their best to change that.

A large minority of our fans are quick enough to boo our own players. That's what should be beneath us.

Returning players deserve every bit of stick they get unless they are returning after long and distinguished service and were moved on by the club.

MacDonald BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
 
So true Maidenhead ,many of our fans are so far up opposition players arses but wouldn't think twice about booing our own.
 
Living In a Fantasy World said:
For the amount of booing on such a special occasion yes it is a valid reason to moan.
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I agree, were not saying don't boo players (even though I think booing is counter productive) personally if somebody booed me I would raise my game and try a lot harder. What we are saying, yesterday was a special occasion, 125 years of Sheffield united, something that we should be proud of, but instead the crowd was more interested in the return of kmac.

If we cant enjoy a big anniversary like this, without something so small over shadowing it, what can we enjoy?
 
This is the same Kevin McDonald who came to United after a bad injury when no other clubs would touch him with a barge pole. The same McDonald who a year later along with Williamson held Danny Wilson to and the club to ransom refusing to sign a new deal unless the club broke the bank, and proceeded to whore themselves around any club that would listen, the same McDonald who only signed for us when no other clubs would take the risk and pay him more than we would. And he still jumped ship at the first opportunity to a club everyone knows is loaded. He may be a very good player but like Paddy Kenny and others of their ilk they show no gratitude or loyalty to a club that did everything it could for them, the only thing they will ever get from me is contempt.
 
I have to say I agree with you on that metalblade, but for the purposes of yesterday, it would have been nice to see more positive chanting considering the day, rather than the negative we actually saw.
 

I understand what he did and why he got the abuse.
I was ready for a real rant with the complete blindness this board is showing at the moment but I won't.
I'll just say I'm disappointed that a special occasion will be remembered for the wrong reasons.
 
No issues with us booing McDonald. He does not play for us anymore and decided to leave us. I don't feel sorry for him. You take the money and move o then you expect some stick when you come back. He is fair game in that regard. As is everyone else who moves on from a club whether it be SUFC or another.

As I have said elsewhere he got more money and a better, more ambitious side that will go up. He won on all counts. Doubt he is that bothered with a few boos.

Yes it is disappointing we rescued his career to some degree but then he was the one who went out and gave the performances to earn such a move. Yes there is no loyalty in football and it is sad players move on for money etc but that is football. You could say Baxter did same when he left Oldham, ditto for Scougall.

As others have said be nice if chanting generally was more about our own side, not anti opposition or anti Wednesday but that is same with many clubs. We are not unique.
 
Yes it is disappointing we rescued his career to some degree but then he was the one who went out and gave the performances to earn such a move. Yes there is no loyalty in football and it is sad players move on for money etc but that is football. You could say Baxter did same when he left Oldham, ditto for Scougall.

I would say moving to Sheffield United from Oldham or Livingston would be regarded as moving to a bigger club (hope that doesn't sound like a S6 thing). I do not consider Wolverhampton Wanderers a bigger club than we are, just richer at the moment.
 
A guy sat behind me spent the afternoon shouting abuse at Baxter (fat, lazy, stupid) and Porter (Carthorse, idle, flat footed) as much as he did MacDonald, Like all clubs we have Neanderthals following us.
 
zablade said:
A guy sat behind me spent the afternoon shouting abuse at Baxter (fat, lazy, stupid) and Porter (Carthorse, idle, flat footed) as much as he did MacDonald, Like all clubs we have Neanderthals following us.
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Agree with all of that zablade, I suppose it's like any social outing, you pays your money and are then entitled to vent your spleen if what you've seen doesn't please you. It happens at the cinema as well as a whole host of excursions. What crosses my mind though is this; if a player receives a constant flow of verbal abuse, do we expect him to improve the way he plays? Imagine if this happened at work. Would our ability to deliver improve better because someone has attempted to undermine us?

It'll never change of course, there are those who seem to look forward to a Saturday afternoon where they can act out their own personal emotional drama. It makes me wonder if all's well at home with the wife? Getting a grip never seems to cross the minds of some of these people, but the response I'd expect to that question is that they pay their admission and this allows them to undermine the team they say they support. For whatever way you look at this, a continuous stream of bollocking isn't designed to improve the general level of performance of any player.

But hey ho, such is the lot of a football fan. Some banter can be very entertaining, some can be obscene, and some can be downright hostile. I doubt the likes of myself will ever change the minds of those who imagine they are Saturday afternoon managers. Nor would I want to if I'm honest. I'd just like to hear something that represents support rather than pointless criticism.
I doubt Kevin Mc will be too troubled by the crap directed at him, and nor should he. But let's take a player like Matty Hill. He's never going to rise above the level we're currently at (go and prove me wrong Matt, I'd love to see you perform at a higher level) but that man has served us well when called upon. He's taken really hostile crap from sections of the crowd, yet he always does his best, and sometimes his best is actually quite good. So think on about what it is you want and expect from the players who are meant to represent this club. If we constantly denigrate particular players don't be surprised if they make mistakes, it's what happens to a person when their confidence is low.
 
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metalblade said:
Yes it is disappointing we rescued his career to some degree but then he was the one who went out and gave the performances to earn such a move. Yes there is no loyalty in football and it is sad players move on for money etc but that is football. You could say Baxter did same when he left Oldham, ditto for Scougall.

I would say moving to Sheffield United from Oldham or Livingston would be regarded as moving to a bigger club (hope that doesn't sound like a S6 thing). I do not consider Wolverhampton Wanderers a bigger club than we are, just richer at the moment.
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It is not always about who is bigger or perceived as bigger; it is simply who offers more money and who are better placed to move up - Wolves thus won out in both cases.

As an aside if you look at history you could make a compelling argument that Wolves are a bigger club as much as it may grate those with red and white allegiances. They have spent most of their history in the top flight till the 80's (we have generally fluctuated between top and second tier). Even since then (their worst spell in history) they have had as many seasons as us in the top division. They have won more trophies in all competions and if you look at the average crowds over the history (if you take away spell in 80's - which was poor for us today) have consistently had large crowds (much higher average total than us). Since 1994 they have only had one season with just less than 20,000 average crowd (and most mid 20's upwards) which shows what a well supported side they are.

http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn.htm
 
Deadbat said:
It is not always about who is bigger or perceived as bigger; it is simply who offers more money and who are better placed to move up - Wolves thus won out in both cases.

As an aside if you look at history you could make a compelling argument that Wolves are a bigger club as much as it may grate those with red and white allegiances. They have spent most of their history in the top flight till the 80's (we have generally fluctuated between top and second tier). Even since then (their worst spell in history) they have had as many seasons as us in the top division. They have won more trophies in all competions and if you look at the average crowds over the history (if you take away spell in 80's - which was poor for us today) have consistently had large crowds (much higher average total than us). Since 1994 they have only had one season with just less than 20,000 average crowd (and most mid 20's upwards) which shows what a well supported side they are.

http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn.htm
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Wolves are a bigger club than us. No denying it.
 
One of my pals hit the nail on the head yesterday.
Leon Clarke must have thought, "Thank fuck McDonald is playing today. Gives me a break from the booing."
I don't boo anyone, our players, theirs, the ref, whatever, just because I think the actual act of booing is quite silly really. What anyone else does is up to them. As for McDonald, his goal against Notts County won me a free £125 bet? so I'll let him be.
My other problem with booing is, from what I've seen in the past, it seems to spur on opposing players. It didn't put McDonald off his game much yesterday.
 
Personally I was very disappointed that we used the occasion of our 125th Anniversary to turn into West Ham but there you go.
 
Deadbat said:
It is not always about who is bigger or perceived as bigger; it is simply who offers more money and who are better placed to move up - Wolves thus won out in both cases.

As an aside if you look at history you could make a compelling argument that Wolves are a bigger club as much as it may grate those with red and white allegiances. They have spent most of their history in the top flight till the 80's (we have generally fluctuated between top and second tier). Even since then (their worst spell in history) they have had as many seasons as us in the top division. They have won more trophies in all competions and if you look at the average crowds over the history (if you take away spell in 80's - which was poor for us today) have consistently had large crowds (much higher average total than us). Since 1994 they have only had one season with just less than 20,000 average crowd (and most mid 20's upwards) which shows what a well supported side they are.

http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn.htm
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Maybe McD thought of Weir the same way as Mitch Ward does?
 
i have said it before and i will say it again,nobody would turn down the chance of bettering themselves with more money and better prospects,and before anyone says he did,nt go for the money, would any of the players that played under fuckwit weir,not gone given the opportunity,seem to remember TC and keith edwards moving on but we dont boo them
 
yes, another disappointment, I hate to see blades leave early, but it happens every home game. I just don't understand those "fans" if indeed that's what they must be called
 
Latters said:
It made us appear bitter and petty.

What made it even worse was that they put more effort into booing a very talented player who put in some very good performances for us than they did the ex-pigs in the Wolves team.

I wish we had McDonald playing for us now. He would be outstanding with Scougall and the reinvigorated Murphy and Flynn, not to mention Brayford and Harris.
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Probably wouldn`t, he had good players round him in Wilson`s first season and he went missing or was crocked, for each and every big game, eg pigs , Stevenage, Hudds. Vastly overrated.
 

GRUMPY BLADE said:
Maybe McD thought of Weir the same way as Mitch Ward does?
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Charles Green forced Carl Tiler and Mitch Ward to move to Everton. Not saying they didnt want to go to Everton, both werent looking to leave us. Ward had just moved to a new house in Troway and was told by Green that he was going to Everton. Ward was still upset about Dane's injury in the previous day and after Green's bombshell, he rang Carl Tiler and Carl was as shocked as Ward was. Carl's father , Ken, who played for Chesterfield and Millers in the 1970s wrote a letter to the Green Un saying that Carl never asked for a move from the Lane
 
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