The disallowed 'goal'

[Brian Blessed]

When burrows struck the ball Souza was not between the ball and the keeper, subsequently according to the RULES it should have been allowed

Fucks sake some whoppers on here who clearly don't know the rules. It's not about where he's standing when the ball was struck, if he's impeding the keeper's ability to play the ball which he was then it's offside. Guarantee 100% everybody saying not offside now would be agreeing it was offside at the other end. Embarrassing yourselves.

 

[djbaldken]

Rightly or wrongly If we had won, that is the kind of VAR decision that has ruined the game.
And in the premier league that happens most games and usually to the detriment of lesser teams.
That is what we would have to contend with.

 

[BackPocket]

I don't think there keeper saves it tbh, but it's off.

 

[The Crab]

Souza's to the keepers side he's not affecting his vision as I see it.

He’s affecting his peripheral vision I would say.

All opinions really, the only one that matters is the decision made by the ref / VAR

It’s what it is I guess, the upshot is another play off defeat. It’s shite and I feel for those who are having to schlep back from there

 

[Brighouse Blade]

It’s a goal, and it’s game over.

Split second decisions on peripheral vision is a nonsense.

Anyone agreeing with the decision is enabling the decimation of our game.

For the past 150 years it’s a goal, not now.

 

[scouseblade]

After 46 league games, 2 playoff semis, the authorities decide to use VAR coz its Wembley and a big shinny day for Sky. Hows that right? End of day we were poor 2nd half but that was a massive momentum swing.

 

[Chicken with no head]

Are our players not allowed on the pitch when we’re attacking??

 

[Diamondlife]

 

[loyalblade95]

Showed Sunderland (fans and players) exactly what to expect from VAR (they we're in L1 when it was introduced to the PL), be surprised if any of them are enjoying VAR next season when it makes questionable decisions regularly.

Also, is that 8-second GK rule coming to the EFL, or just the PL?

 

[Chicken with no head]

There’s no way we’re offside one of there players nearly has his foot on the goaline …, again I ask are our players allowed on the pitch

 

[bertieblade]

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[Varkanoid]

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Vini there or not he wouldnt have saved it. Didnt see the ball till late because of the 2/3 players in front. Problem is Vini moved to the right so it was easy for VAR to interpret it as offside due to interfering with Keeper. Vini goes left and goal would have stood. However look to the right where the heart is Sunderland player playing them onside.

My biggest issue is we played what 50 games without VAR because Championship does not use it then for some explicable reason its used at Play Off Final.

 

[Selly]

circa 2003 era of if you are offside you are offside

Unless you are Peschisolido in a LC QF v Palace...

 

[Brighouse Blade]

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The only players blocking his view are his own defender and an onside Blade. I don’t agree with VAR, but if we are to have it, and scrutinise split second frames in the natural flow of human movement, at least get it right.

NONSENSE.

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

Fucks sake some whoppers on here who clearly don't know the rules. It's not about where he's standing when the ball was struck, if he's impeding the keeper's ability to play the ball which he was then it's offside. Guarantee 100% everybody saying not offside now would be agreeing it was offside at the other end. Embarrassing yourselves.

It is absolutely about “where he’s standing when the ball was struck “
If he’s not offside (at that time) there is no “impeding the keeper’s ability to play the ball” - unless by foul means - which was not the decision

 

[BigBed]

End of the day, we shouldve been 3 or 4 up before they scored, it was our own fault, we had the opportunities and didn't take them.

 

[Sithblade]

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Not sure why this wasn't highlighted or the lines drawn on TV to show if their player near the right post is playing Vini onside or not? I presume this was done with the VAR officials, but it wasn't on the Sky TV broadcast.

 

[Younger Dryas Blade]

VAR needs to employ AI. Their keeper had zero chance of saving that rocket even if the box was empty.

 

[Brighouse Blade]

Fucks sake some whoppers on here who clearly don't know the rules. It's not about where he's standing when the ball was struck, if he's impeding the keeper's ability to play the ball which he was then it's offside. Guarantee 100% everybody saying not offside now would be agreeing it was offside at the other end. Embarrassing yourselves.

So what are we saying? Lads, in the milliseconds it takes for the ball to fall to a player outside the box, can you please get yerselves out of the way just in case a player has a shot, we can’t be in the 6 yard box, the keeper needs a clear view bless him.

Or………just accept 6 yard boxes are a bit busy when teams are trying to score a goal, and without TV cameras and VAR it’s been a goal for all eternity.

VAR is killing the game and whoppers like you are falling for it.

 

[Greenwich Blade]

When a decision takes that long to be made, it suggests the original decision should have stood, but the longer it takes, we all know that actually the decision is about to be reversed. This for me is why modern football can get in the bin.

If you are happy with this sort of bollocks, like the shitshow at Tottenham as well, way back when (2019), then good luck to you.

Injury time in the second half was a joke as well. Nobody, least of all the ref, had any idea how much time was left in the end after all the delays. I’d be very surprised if 7 minutes was actually played, though.

This evening, I genuinely feel like I’m finished with football. Think I’ll listen to some Gentle Giant.

 

[Brian Blessed]

It is absolutely about “where he’s standing when the ball was struck “
If he’s not offside (at that time) there is no “impeding the keeper’s ability to play the ball” - unless by foul means - which was not the decision

But he is offside when the ball is struck. He doesn't have to be directly in front of the keeper to impact him. At the other end and you agree.

 

[Brian Blessed]

So what are we saying? Lads, in the milliseconds it takes for the ball to fall to a player outside the box, can you please get yerselves out of the way just in case a player has a shot, we can’t be in the 6 yard box, the keeper needs a clear view bless him.

Or………just accept 6 yard boxes are a bit busy when teams are trying to score a goal, and without TV cameras and VAR it’s been a goal for all eternity.

VAR is killing the game and whoppers like you are falling for it.

So in conclusion, its offside.

 

[Toronto Blade]

VAR needs to employ AI. Their keeper had zero chance of saving that rocket even if the box was empty.

VAR needs a virus that gives it a black screen. It might not matter as they would come up with another excuse keep repeating it until everyone believes them

 

[DI36O]

VAR is objectively shit and wank so all of this discussion is moot

 

[Toronto Blade]

The ref
Kavanaugh has probably looked at that goal and realized the keeper did not have his vision impeded keeper could not have saved it from his position even though he saw enough of it to attempt to save it.He made a big mistake or incompetence

 

[radio]

I actually forgot that when watching a game with VAR ,,, NOT to celebrate a goal until the defending team has kicked off again , some seconds or minutes later ,,

 

[Tony_Kaufman]

VAR needs to employ AI. Their keeper had zero chance of saving that rocket even if the box was empty.

That was my thought. Offside or not, impeded vision or not, there was no way anyone was saving that.

If impeding keepers view is such a thing then cancel all corner kicks, as there are 16 players impeding keepers everytime the ball gets crossed into the six yard box.

 

[UTB Blade]

 

[Gavlar]

By the letter of the law it’s off but the reality is Vini doesn’t affect the phase at all. The keeper wouldnt save it if he wasn’t there.

 

[A Storm of Blades]

Rubbish man

What is? That no offside player is blocking his view when it’s hit? You sure?