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Maybe the club should start putting messages on the big screen like "The players need your support" in between the adverts that presumably half the crowd are watching silently.

Luckily hooliganism isn't much of a thing anymore, but why did people lose pride in creating home atmosphere? It doesn't have to be "welcome to hell" but Jesus Christ, even just a "remember we support the home team" would be an improvement.
 



blade67 said:
The guy behind me on the kop, was on about how shit the players were pretty much as soon as they equalised

Everything that didn't come off was because we were shit. Reactionary and tiresome. It was a "new" voice, so hopefully it was a one off visit. There could be some nervy matches on the run in and he'll not make it any more entertaining.
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"Second in the league pal, go and get a drink"
 
Mag-83 said:
I don’t get where this cauldron of noise and support myth comes from when playing at the Lane. Let’s be honest, once Annie’s song / greasy chip butty dies down we have ALWAYS been quiet thereafter. When we score it livens up but soon goes quiet. We are just not a very vocal fanbase at home.

As for people complaining about fellow supporters leaving early - who cares?
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One of the reasons I care about people leaving early is that I could barely see the fucking pitch for the last 10 minutes, just crowds of people leaving.

I pay to watch the whole match, only saw people's heads at the end.
 
nopigfansintown said:
It's been declining for years. Hard to put your finger on the exact reason, but things like demographics and a failure of the club to proactively house the vocal elements in an area would be two I'd consider.
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This, especially the demographics. When the camera pans around the stand to show the fans, it shows a lot of older people and a lot of females. Now I'm not for one minute suggesting that they aren't welcome but they aren't, as a whole, the type to be stood up singing from minute one to minute ninety. Compare that to somewhere like Leeds or even Boro, and the scene will show mainly lairy lads. Maybe our strive to be a 'family club' has come back and bitten us on the arse in that respect. You only have to look at the reaction of some posters on here to a bit of boisterousness, japery and effrontery at games. I've said previously that I hope this forum isn't indicative of our fan base as a whole. Sadly, it would seem it is. Unfortunately, we are turning into Reading in the stands and I predict it will only be a matter of time before the sound of the dreaded cardboard clackers will be reverberating around the Lane.
 
Jon Bon II said:
This, especially the demographics. When the camera pans around the stand to show the fans, it shows a lot of older people and a lot of females. Now I'm not for one minute suggesting that they aren't welcome but they aren't, as a whole, the type to be stood up singing from minute one to minute ninety. Compare that to somewhere like Leeds or even Boro, and the scene will show mainly lairy lads. Maybe our strive to be a 'family club' has come back and bitten us on the arse in that respect. You only have to look at the reaction of some posters on here to a bit of boisterousness, japery and effrontery at games. I've said previously that I hope this forum isn't indicative of our fan base as a whole. Sadly, it would seem it is. Unfortunately, we are turning into Reading in the stands and I predict it will only be a matter of time before the sound of the dreaded cardboard clackers will be reverberating around the Lane.
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I'm the wokest person I know but agree, would add that as well as gender and age, class wants including on the list.

Football crowds in general are becoming more middle class. Can imagine this will only get worse with the cost of living crisis pricing more people out of coming.
 
Don't think it helps that everyone thinks they are an expert on the football nowadays.

Just look at the toxic bilge spouted on Shoutbox - even when we are winning matches.Look at the current threads slagging off the manager, the tactics, even Ndyaie FFS. Yes there is more of this after a defeat, but the toxic negativity is ever present.

I should say that I don't think forums are completely representative of actual crowd support, as there are clearly many people who never go to games, preferring to sit in their mum's box room in their pants - but they do well on FIFA so think they have all the answers.

But I do think that fuelled by social media, FIFA etc, there are many more entitled know all's in the actual match crowd now.

I also think the bond between us the fans and the players has gone. We used to get behind them for 90 minutes come what may. We didn't care about training regimes, XG's etc. We knew that we needed to play our part. If we were shit, we would talk about it over a pint post match, but we didn't go into the game with an entitlement to thrash who ever was in front of us.

Mind you, this doesn't explain why out atmosphere is particularly bad. Watched the dirties on TV the other day and it seemed terrific there. So maybe I'm talking bollocks.
 
blade67 said:
The guy behind me on the kop, was on about how shit the players were pretty much as soon as they equalised

Everything that didn't come off was because we were shit. Reactionary and tiresome. It was a "new" voice, so hopefully it was a one off visit. There could be some nervy matches on the run in and he'll not make it any more entertaining.
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You're lucky it only started after they equalised! There's a chap sits behind me (seen him at lots of away games) and he moans and mocks our players from the first whistle and criticises just about every substitution. He also talks in a very loud voice and I would think people two rows in front will hear him. He shouts "shoot, shoot" when we are 40 yards out and clearly in no position to shoot. It's laughable but annoying at the same time.
 
JJBlade said:
The fans are not wrong
They know what they are watching, and they know that a team that has gone through months of doing barely enough to beat Wigan, Blackpool and Wrexham isn't inspiring them

There is no excitement following United, it isn't allowed

And if things ever do reach a scale of 3 out of 10 Sheffield City Council and it's High vis jacket mafia will kill it stone dead with further fan restrictions and closed down seats
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I'd suggest they stop coming.
We are in automatic spot to get in the Prem. That's as good as things get at the Lane.
If / when we do go up, we'll get beat lots more often. That's football.
Take it or leave it.
 
The fans seem to be getting some major stick, but I'd like to mention the reaction from those who could be bothered to stay on the kop at the end. As (most) of the players approached the kop, maybe a little sheepishly, possibly expecting some criticism, a collective roar of encouragement went up. A message to the players that even after a poor performance, some of us appreciate what this group of players have achieved and that we can bounce back and get promotion.
I'm sure the players would have appreciated this.
 
Karaoke Blade said:
The fans seem to be getting some major stick, but I'd like to mention the reaction from those who could be bothered to stay on the kop at the end. As (most) of the players approached the kop, maybe a little sheepishly, possibly expecting some criticism, a collective roar of encouragement went up. A message to the players that even after a poor performance, some of us appreciate what this group of players have achieved and that we can bounce back and get promotion.
I'm sure the players would have appreciated this.
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Was similar on the SS. McAtee was last and took ages trudging off, looked gutted.
 
Cheets said:
I'll say one thing though. After full-time the players walked around John Street and the Kop to applaud the remaining fans. In the old days they would have been greeted by half applause and a smattering of boos. Last night the fans that were still in the Kop gave them a roar as if to say "COME ON LADS. KEEP GOING!" I thought it was quite moving.
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Mcatee looked absolutely gutted, was last one off the pitch but I think he appreciated the fan's reaction.
 
Nick Jansky said:
There was a fat kid on his own with a scarf wandering around the concourse on his own before kick off aggressively demanding cigs from people and behaving quite strangely. Wonder if it’s the same one.
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Did he wear an orange top with blonde hair
 



I do find it quite ironic that we are all slagging off 'the fans', yet are all 'the fans'. Can we all collectively say we try our hardest to generate an atmosphere? Do we join in each and every song? If the answer is no, then perhaps looking inwardly is the first step to improving matters.

I myself also fall into this category. I probably join in about 75% of the songs, but I must admit, I just sometimes can't be arsed. Maybe I need to change that.

I do genuinely believe the only way it'll improve is by some kind of organise area/ultras type group being formed.
 
We've many fans but far fewer supporters. Some cubs are combating their declining atmosphere by housing like-minded. Zero appetite to do this at the Lane, simply not in our DNA.

Our comfort zone for making a racket is when feeling a sense of injustice, not for backing the players when things take a down turn. We're famous bottle jobs and our fans are a contributing factor.

I sound rattled.
 
We were shit yesterday. Fans around me who always stay to the end were leaving after yet another misplaced pass I left about 1 minute before the final whistle. Most of these players have been terrific all season. They had a mare yesterday. Can we please stop talking crap about how good everybody else's fans are compared to us. This is modern football. The away fans are great but everybody including leeds and Boro at home have probably got threads like this. Our first season back in the premier league our fans at home were being praised to the skies because of the atmosphere at the lane. If we had watched that game as Boro fans we would have been singing about promotion too. The fans were desperate for something to lift them that second half. Their second goal was an absolute sickener, it sucked much of the energy out of the ground. If we had pulled one back got it to 3-2, the roof would have come off the lane. Unfortunately we remained abject. This morning I am consoling myself by imagining how bad the Burnley fans must have felt when we beat them. They were as bad as we were yesterday, certainly at defending set pieces. What matters now is the reaction. Good to know you all know there is a clear answer to the atmosphere problem. Kick all the women, old people and middle class out, but while you are at it I suggest you take all the phones of all the young working class lads you want to keep. I can't tell you about how much I want to know about Chelsea losing while we are attacking.
 
Jon Bon II said:
This, especially the demographics. When the camera pans around the stand to show the fans, it shows a lot of older people and a lot of females. Now I'm not for one minute suggesting that they aren't welcome but they aren't, as a whole, the type to be stood up singing from minute one to minute ninety. Compare that to somewhere like Leeds or even Boro, and the scene will show mainly lairy lads. Maybe our strive to be a 'family club' has come back and bitten us on the arse in that respect. You only have to look at the reaction of some posters on here to a bit of boisterousness, japery and effrontery at games. I've said previously that I hope this forum isn't indicative of our fan base as a whole. Sadly, it would seem it is. Unfortunately, we are turning into Reading in the stands and I predict it will only be a matter of time before the sound of the dreaded cardboard clackers will be reverberating around the Lane.
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Good post, have long thought we're a Low T fanbase, it does usually appear that way in crowd shots etc

So that's old, Low T, female, middle class...... how about fat as well, can we have that?
 
I left on 91 minutes after another brain dead moment from one of our players, I also couldnt be arsed wading down Bramall Lane trying to get past all their fans giving it the big un.
 
S64 Blade said:
I do find it quite ironic that we are all slagging off 'the fans', yet are all 'the fans'. Can we all collectively say we try our hardest to generate an atmosphere? Do we join in each and every song? If the answer is no, then perhaps looking inwardly is the first step to improving matters.

I myself also fall into this category. I probably join in about 75% of the songs, but I must admit, I just sometimes can't be arsed. Maybe I need to change that.

I do genuinely believe the only way it'll improve is by some kind of organise area/ultras type group being formed.
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I agree, everyone that agrees the atmosphere is a problem needs to make a concerted personal effort to improve it. For 90+ minutes.

It helps the team. Makes matches more enjoyable, etc. Not everyone has to sing or enjoys it... Sure, okay. But at least roar encouragement etc.

N.B. I should be honest and admit I can't even go anymore - but it's because I live about 300 miles away with two small kids and not very much "liquidity". But I walked the walk when I had a season ticket in L1 days. And whenever I can get to a match. Massive believer in "doing my bit".
 
Mag-83 said:
I don’t get where this cauldron of noise and support myth comes from when playing at the Lane. Let’s be honest, once Annie’s song / greasy chip butty dies down we have ALWAYS been quiet thereafter. When we score it livens up but soon goes quiet. We are just not a very vocal fanbase at home.

As for people complaining about fellow supporters leaving early - who cares?
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I find it absolutely cringeworthy when the stands empty with ten to go. And most of those who stay look on in disbelief, so many of us care.

Based on last night, I'd have to accept we're in the majority and deserting the team early is wholly acceptable to many.
 
JohnDenver said:
Jack Robinson deserves better than getting abused by a fan on John street for no reason whatsoever.
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This happened a few rows in front of us, when Robbo came to take a throw in. Robbo was furious and I thought he was going to jump over the advertising hoardings at the bloke. Couldn't hear everything Robbo said apart from 'We're second in the league for fucks sake.' Several other fans had a go back at the original gobby one and there were a few scuffles. At the final whistle Gobby got more grief and climbed over seats to get away. Stewards then got involved.
 
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Think a lot boils down to the fact we have about 3 songs which are shite let’s be fair, United - repeat, Sheffield United, Sheffield United - repeat, s h e f f I e l d u n I t e d - repeat. To be fair to the wilder years we had so many to choose from which were actually good, I get that a lot of the songs are created on away days but once the kop hopefully gets sorted out we could actually do with one specific singing area like Palace, back in the day the whole kop was basically a singing section but even being middle of the stand it’s hard to get it going
 
Wilderat Heart said:
but while you are at it I suggest you take all the phones of all the young working class lads you want to keep. I can't tell you about how much I want to know about Chelsea losing while we are attacking.
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This is the main problem at football games, but also cinemas, theatres etc.

You're at a football game (good for a IG and Tiktok post) but aren't really bothered until the crowd volume goes up around a chance. Too busy looking at stuff on your phone until we're about to score.

Also, I do wonder how much coke plays in fans being less vocal. When you've had a few beers, you're more vocal. Not the same with coke.
 
S64 Blade said:
I do find it quite ironic that we are all slagging off 'the fans', yet are all 'the fans'. Can we all collectively say we try our hardest to generate an atmosphere? Do we join in each and every song? If the answer is no, then perhaps looking inwardly is the first step to improving matters.

I myself also fall into this category. I probably join in about 75% of the songs, but I must admit, I just sometimes can't be arsed. Maybe I need to change that.

I do genuinely believe the only way it'll improve is by some kind of organise area/ultras type group being formed.
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Same as me, everybody can do more. The ones who currently join in 0% of the time have opportunity to have more impact though.
 



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