Aaron Ramsdale interview

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Having listened to the full interview Im actually very pleased he has fucked off.

United were well within their rights to ask whatever they deemed acceptable for his transfer as he was under contract, getting a nice wage no doubt and he was happy to sign it the summer before. As soon as Arsenal come in he wants out and starts playing the cockwomble. And to ask for a pay rise after being fucking awful until December is just laughable and out of order imo.

I'm glad Bettis reminded him that he was still getting paid very well for being shit from August to December and giving him a few home truths.

Even then I could have accepted his stance but to then throw his teammates under a bus and go on strike is just bang out of order. As mentioned by others I hope we fined him.

For him then to bad mouth the club who have had such a huge bearing on his career and brought him through the ranks is just bizarre. What does he expect the club to do? Just drop their trousers and undersell an asset to them and be grateful for they get? After rejecting £15m and finally agreeing on £24m rising to £30m it seems that Utd were totally correct to stand their ground and ask for more and clearly Arsenal were prepared to pay it. I think it was a fair price for a player who might be there for the next decade.

I want AR to do well as it will ensure that Utd get the full fee, and I don't wish bad things on him but I certainly don't particularly like the kid any more. He might be a success, be wildly rich, be enjoying his life but atm he is clearly an immature unappreciative young man of both SUFC or the Blades fans who backed him. Remember he won the PoTY award. Quite frankly, fuck him and Arsenal. UTB.
 

Rammers has always been a bit of a dick head with his attitude , but at the end of the day who is the dick head ??
He signed for us for 18 mill he sign for arse for 30 mill at 10% thats nearly 5 mill in his bank account , then he has his wages god knows what he is on at arse , so at the end of the day whos the dick head !
Prob do the same if i am honest !
 
Can’t get too worked up about this - obviously he wanted the move and you can’t blame him. Wasn’t like we had started the season well.

Worked out well for the most part. We made a profit and he got his move.

He wasn’t worth 10% of what we paid for him after the first few months of the season before - where objectively he was the worst starting keeper in the league. But he turned that round so you can only say fair play and to be honest well done to the board for holding firm and squeezing a profit for him.
 
wavy-blade said:
Rammers has always been a bit of a dick head with his attitude , but at the end of the day who is the dick head ??
He signed for us for 18 mill he sign for arse for 30 mill at 10% thats nearly 5 mill in his bank account , then he has his wages god knows what he is on at arse , so at the end of the day whos the dick head !
Prob do the same if i am honest !
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If ever a post summed up the problem with today's society then that one does
 
I don't think anyone begrudges him his move. I do think fans do think he's out of order to be talking to Arsenal (via hi agent) in May before a fee was agreed, asking for a pay rise, putting a gun tk the clubs head by refusing to train and play and fulfil his part of the obligation he is under to the club under the contract HE SIGNED, and then after he's gone and is doing well, do an interview where he bad mouths a club who have looked after him for 5 years of his life and helped get him to where he now is. Rank bad manners. So at the end of the day its clear that AR is the dickhead.
 
Frank the tank said:
If ever a post summed up the problem with today's society then that one does
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So in your career , if someone offers you twice as much money with better prospects and career advancement YOU would stop with your current employer ? Yer right !
 
ramsdale is wrong because you should always be available for your club as it reflects badly & as 1 chairman said if a player did that that he was trying to sign he would pull the plug. because if hes willing to strike to join us then he willing to strike to leave us. also a 4 yr deal should include performance bonuses for doing well so shouldnt need a new contract / wage rise

but the board dont come out of this well with there quotes, saying why would you want a new contract. because Ramsdale/ agent will be aware of the precedent by board with wilder. as if i got my stats correct. i believe he signed a new contract every season. espically 2019 & 2020. signed a 3 yr deal & 12 months later signed a 4 yr deal
3 yr deal - 2016
1 yr extension - 2017
1 yr extension - 2018
3 yr deal - 2019
4 yr deal - 2020
 
Only just seen this today, quite surprised at some of it. Firstly he clearly wanted to move to Arsenal, fair enough, bar the Dane Whitehouses' of this world (how many of them are there!?) any pro would want to leave to go back to the Prem and with a club as big as Arsenal. But to ask for a new contract at that time seems very odd. I could see it if the deal didn't happen and then after the window was shut to ask for a new deal, although I'm sure the answer would have been no and the club clearly needed to sell so there was, presumably, never the intention from the club to "ward off interested parties" as Rammers says, because we needed the sale.

On the other hand I can understand his frustration if someone at the club had said that if a certain figure was made he'd be off, and then the club renege on that, although we only have his account for that. It was well known the Bournemouth would receive a substantial cut from the deal so we needed a decent fee to make it worthwhile.

As others have said I think he could have kept this private, it's something you say in an autobiography once you've finished playing, not months after leaving. He's clearly an emotional character is Ramadale, that's fine and I get that and I think he just wanted to get some of this off his chest, but he should just get on with playing football which he's doing well at in fairness. I recall last season him speaking out on the abuse he was getting on social media for his performances, presumably from our fans. He is right that much of that is no doubt out of order but at the same time that's the nature of social media, he doesn't have to have a twitter account, although that wouldn't necessarily stop it in fairness. I did think he would have got much worse had there been fans at the Lane last season and having the supporters from the kop and away fans just metres away from you. He got dogs abuse from Arsenal fans before he joined; he doesn't mention that of course, or if he does he didn't come out and say it was out of order as he did with us, because it wasn't in his interests to kick off just after he'd joined but I'm fairly sure the abuse from some of their fans was as worse if not worse than what he got for playing badly at times for us.

I was a disappointed to see him leave this summer as he'd said he was happy to stay at the end of last season and I think he meant that. Of course then there was interest from Arsenal and not surprisingly he wanted to move, but from his interview joining Arsenal you got the impression he was very pleased, a bit too much for my liking to leave, but I know why now. He should never have refused to play in my view, that will never go down well with supporters.

I will give him a few claps when we inevitably play against him one day, but he should expect a lot of boos and jeers now, and that wouldn't have happened if he'd not done this interview.
 
Much has been said re Ramsdale's upturn in form, it's perfectly understandable that would have an effect on his self confidence, so too the England call up at the Euro's even if it was down to others being injured.
But if you look at Ramsdale now, he is a different player, we bought or re bought the young kid that seemed happy just to be playing, totally different to the character he is now, he was never that confident, vocal or involved as he seems to be now.

Which raises the awkward question regards why? One one hand the move is a confidence builder, on the other the reaction from Arsenal fans wasn't!
He seems to be completely free of any worry, playing without a care in the world, giving 110% every game, shouting, encouraging, back slapping his defenders, a real team player, anyone remember anything to that level in a United shirt?
 
We all know the Board have ran this football club in a shit way. That isn't a surprise. However the fact he's refused to play, not only is he disrespecting the club. He's disrespecting his team mates but worst of all the badge and the fans. Then to top it all off after a couple of good appearances for arsenal, he's now appearing on a podcast talking shit about the club.

He's one player I hope never steps foot back in Bramall Lane.
 
Having read through the posts, and respecting everyone's comments, maybe its a bit of six and two threes regarding Rammers interview, although in my opinion it highlights plenty was going on in the background during Slavs brief tenure, and the situation at this moment in time appears to show it was not good.
Anyway it's all in the past, let's hope, pandemic aside things will settle down. UTB
 
Weasel said:
Having listened to the full interview Im actually very pleased he has fucked off.

United were well within their rights to ask whatever they deemed acceptable for his transfer as he was under contract, getting a nice wage no doubt and he was happy to sign it the summer before. As soon as Arsenal come in he wants out and starts playing the cockwomble. And to ask for a pay rise after being fucking awful until December is just laughable and out of order imo.

I'm glad Bettis reminded him that he was still getting paid very well for being shit from August to December and giving him a few home truths.

Even then I could have accepted his stance but to then throw his teammates under a bus and go on strike is just bang out of order. As mentioned by others I hope we fined him.

For him then to bad mouth the club who have had such a huge bearing on his career and brought him through the ranks is just bizarre. What does he expect the club to do? Just drop their trousers and undersell an asset to them and be grateful for they get? After rejecting £15m and finally agreeing on £24m rising to £30m it seems that Utd were totally correct to stand their ground and ask for more and clearly Arsenal were prepared to pay it. I think it was a fair price for a player who might be there for the next decade.

I want AR to do well as it will ensure that Utd get the full fee, and I don't wish bad things on him but I certainly don't particularly like the kid any more. He might be a success, be wildly rich, be enjoying his life but atm he is clearly an immature unappreciative young man of both SUFC or the Blades fans who backed him. Remember he won the PoTY award. Quite frankly, fuck him and Arsenal. UTB.
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Well said
 
wavy-blade said:
Rammers has always been a bit of a dick head with his attitude , but at the end of the day who is the dick head ??
He signed for us for 18 mill he sign for arse for 30 mill at 10% thats nearly 5 mill in his bank account , then he has his wages god knows what he is on at arse , so at the end of the day whos the dick head !
Prob do the same if i am honest !
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No body is bothered that he wanted the move to Arsenal anyone would. But going on strike and bad mouthing the club and staff that made him what he is today is hugely disrespectful. Makes him the dickhead in my book even if he is a very wealthy dickhead. I hope he gets us our add on's but that's all then he can fall from grace as far as I care.
No respect for him at all he is a full weight cunt.
 

SU93 said:
We all know the Board have ran this football club in a shit way. That isn't a surprise. However the fact he's refused to play, not only is he disrespecting the club. He's disrespecting his team mates but worst of all the badge and the fans. Then to top it all off after a couple of good appearances for arsenal, he's now appearing on a podcast talking shit about the club.

He's one player I hope never steps foot back in Bramall Lane.
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I don’t know that. They’ve made mistakes yes, but they also sanctioned transfer fees and wages far beyond the pale of any board before them. It’s not their fault it was (to date) wasted. They also didn’t let Arsenal bend us over in transfer negotiations. I don’t understand this narrative of blaming the board to be honest. They sign the cheques, but it’s the other fella they gets D- for his transfer strategy and imbalanced squad construction.
 
Haven't watched that, and frankly don't want to.

Some people have rose coloured specs on about Ramsdale. He cost us a fantastic amount of points, confidence and impetus for at least two thirds of that season. He was a fucking car crash of a signing, and lucky not to have been dropped. Compared with Henderson ... well, there is no comparison. He pulled off some decent saves post January but let's face it, we were down and done by then and he was simply trying his hardest to market himself. Simply doing his fucking job (saving efforts on goal) isn't 'Player of the Season' shit to me, especially when he is Marmiting his own bread. For him to be as discourteous to the club which fished him out of the Championship for a tidy sum and wage sums what a wanker he is. He should look back on last season with a sense of collective culpability, and reflect that the sole reason he was getting the rods was because he was playing like a third-rate goalkeeper, flapping and pushing shots out, missing crosses, diving stupidly late and allowing shots under his body. All this grinning and poking his tongue out malarkey is just fucking window dressing to me. His resurgence and elaborate displays for Arsenal are obviously significant and noteworthy but it smack of his underperforming for us and using us as a lily-pad for one of the big clubs crossed with what could be a short purple patch. One or two flappy crosses and David James-style howlers in an England jersey will reset people's opinions about this odd individual who is currently surfing on a wave of his own invention.

pommpey
 
pommpey said:
Haven't watched that, and frankly don't want to.

Some people have rose coloured specs on about Ramsdale. He cost us a fantastic amount of points, confidence and impetus for at least two thirds of that season. He was a fucking car crash of a signing, and lucky not to have been dropped. Compared with Henderson ... well, there is no comparison. He pulled off some decent saves post January but let's face it, we were down and done by then and he was simply trying his hardest to market himself. Simply doing his fucking job (saving efforts on goal) isn't 'Player of the Season' shit to me, especially when he is Marmiting his own bread. For him to be as discourteous to the club which fished him out of the Championship for a tidy sum and wage sums what a wanker he is. He should look back on last season with a sense of collective culpability, and reflect that the sole reason he was getting the rods was because he was playing like a third-rate goalkeeper, flapping and pushing shots out, missing crosses, diving stupidly late and allowing shots under his body. All this grinning and poking his tongue out malarkey is just fucking window dressing to me. His resurgence and elaborate displays for Arsenal are obviously significant and noteworthy but it smack of his underperforming for us and using us as a lily-pad for one of the big clubs crossed with what could be a short purple patch. One or two flappy crosses and David James-style howlers in an England jersey will reset people's opinions about this odd individual who is currently surfing on a wave of his own invention.

pommpey
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Maybe as well that you didn't watch it. He come across as a prize prick.
 
Struggling to get worked up over this one if I’m honest. Probably should have kept it to himself but at the same time we are always complaining that footballers speak it nothing but bland sound bites and we all want to know what goes off behind the scenes.

It’s a short career and players are always trying to force moves because one bit of bad luck and the next one might never come along. No point calling him “shit” as he evidently isn’t.

League One Wes is where it’s at these days anyway.
 
pommpey said:
Haven't watched that, and frankly don't want to.

Some people have rose coloured specs on about Ramsdale. He cost us a fantastic amount of points, confidence and impetus for at least two thirds of that season. He was a fucking car crash of a signing, and lucky not to have been dropped. Compared with Henderson ... well, there is no comparison. He pulled off some decent saves post January but let's face it, we were down and done by then and he was simply trying his hardest to market himself. Simply doing his fucking job (saving efforts on goal) isn't 'Player of the Season' shit to me, especially when he is Marmiting his own bread. For him to be as discourteous to the club which fished him out of the Championship for a tidy sum and wage sums what a wanker he is. He should look back on last season with a sense of collective culpability, and reflect that the sole reason he was getting the rods was because he was playing like a third-rate goalkeeper, flapping and pushing shots out, missing crosses, diving stupidly late and allowing shots under his body. All this grinning and poking his tongue out malarkey is just fucking window dressing to me. His resurgence and elaborate displays for Arsenal are obviously significant and noteworthy but it smack of his underperforming for us and using us as a lily-pad for one of the big clubs crossed with what could be a short purple patch. One or two flappy crosses and David James-style howlers in an England jersey will reset people's opinions about this odd individual who is currently surfing on a wave of his own invention.

pommpey
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Different people obviously have different characters, and while we are quick to form opinions on what is more often very limited knowledge, it's interesting to contrast Henderson and Ramsdale.

Henderson from day one came across as someone supremely confident in his own abilities and just where he saw himself, he made no secret about it, Man Uniteds number 1.
I don't think any Blade had a problem with that, obviously his form and performances helped cement his confidence and claims, bar the odd and it was odd, howler (Leeds, Villa, Liverpool).

Contrast that with Ramsdale, when he came back, understandably after being relegated, there wasn't that show of formidable confidence, just seemed happy to be back, he didn't play like a PL goalkeeper, despite his experience with Bournemouth, he played like he had just stepped up from the youth team, didn't know anyone in the first team set up, and no one was listening or helping, compare with his 'antics' at Arsenal cajoling, shouting, back slapping defenders etc which as they were lacking in his time with us, asks the question re commitment, refusing to play v WBA kind of answers it as well. the comments in the interview make it seem he wasn't as honest, open as Henderson and was a little more calculating to achieve his ambitions.
 
Probably another who’ll slap the badge wherever he is. I would have shipped the selfish bastard off the minute he doesn’t train and says he’s not playing. How old is he, fucking five? Well shut of in my opinion. He didn’t cover himself in glory in 50% of the games he played did he? Another one in the Chris Wilder ‘Do as I say not as I do’ club.
 
I’ve also always thought he’s a bit of a flannel merchant. Tries to make every half decent save look like Gordon Banks v Pele. Legs sprayed, double roll when he hits the ground, high fiving his team mates after every save. For our older members on here and the younger ones, have a look at the Weetabix advert goalkeeper save on the advert from the 60’s and you’ll get my drift.
 
A Storm of Blades said:
I don’t know that. They’ve made mistakes yes, but they also sanctioned transfer fees and wages far beyond the pale of any board before them. It’s not their fault it was (to date) wasted. They also didn’t let Arsenal bend us over in transfer negotiations. I don’t understand this narrative of blaming the board to be honest. They sign the cheques, but it’s the other fella they gets D- for his transfer strategy and imbalanced squad construction.
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Bang on.
 
Hillsboro Blade said:
I’ve also always thought he’s a bit of a flannel merchant. Tries to make every half decent save look like Gordon Banks v Pele. Legs sprayed, double roll when he hits the ground, high fiving his team mates after every save. For our older members on here and the younger ones, have a look at the Weetabix advert goalkeeper save on the advert from the 60’s and you’ll get my drift.
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Can't remember the commentator, but during the last televised Arsenal game, someone said, "Ramsdale made one of his flamboyant saves, something he is becoming known for" obviously wasn't meant as a criticism, just something to say, probably a phrase the guy, planned to shoe horn in at some point, but like most things flamboyant saves are great when everything is working,,when it's not, it's a handy target for criticism
 
Champagneblade said:
I don't see how the club gets bashed in all this. When you assign certain statements there has to be context.

1. The Club didn't back Slav. True in terms of signings he needed. But we were expecting to raise 40m shortfall first. It was anticipated Berge would go for 30m and that either McBurnie for 15m, Ramsdale for 25m or AN Other. It isn't the club's fault that this didn't happen and we can't just magic cash up out of thin air. We lost probably 20m through covid.

2. Training facilities. The Board should be quicker getting the site tied up but getting land in Sheffield of that side probably isn't an overnight job. That said if this was such an imperative requirement then the previous manager should have had it higher up the priority list than spending 23m on a 6th striker which the Board were clearly reluctant to support. Blowing all the dough then saying oh and we should have better facilities and I now want a left centre back. He never mentioned the facilities when pushing for Brewster or Ramsdale.

3. This is a quote "Normally if you don’t get a move, you’re rewarded with a new contract. I’m not naming names, but someone at the club said, ‘We didn’t ask him to take less money when he was conceding goals at the start of last year’. So that was when I basically said ‘I won’t play against West Brom’, do what you want.” Normally you haven't just been relegated in this scenario because you yourself were shite for half of the prior season. I think the comment though a bitter pill (can imagine from Giansiracusa, it's his style) is perfectly valid. He wants things his way now but wasn't complaining drawing a PL wage when he was letting in leaden footed goals vs Wolves and Villa or letting shots go through him v Man U. You can't escape the fact he was under contract to play football. The rest of us don't get the option to not turn up to work because we didn't get a promotion or salary increase we wanted. That is unprofessional and I hope they fined him. They should have done. We had a key game against a rival and subsequently got thumped. Hard on Verrips to be thrown in last minute because the regular guy downed tools.

4. There has to be a level playing field. United wanted the best offer. We weren't after the fairest offer. Look at when Liverpool rinsed Barca for 142m for Coutinho. That wasn't fair market value. It was the price to prize away an asset the club were reluctant to lose and would find hard to replace. It's alright saying wow at 40m. But Liverpool spent 67m on theirs. Chelsea lavished 73m on theirs. If he is perceived as good enough to be no 1 at Arsenal, another top club, then why give him away? In the end 30m is probably right but if we hadn't asked for 40m then we wouldn't have gotten 30m. All this talk of the club backing down is nonsense. Arsenal wanted him for what we paid for him at first. So repapering the deal as us buckling somehow is a nice narrative from the southern media but they compromised more than we did and I doubt we ever expected to get 40m. It's the first time we've shown any balls in a negotiation to be honest. There was none of this "when X comes knocking" this time. We even walked away at one point when they were low balling us.

He's 23 and speaks with the naivete of a 23 year old. I liked him as a lad and can appreciate his antics, especially against Leeds recently. He was a good asset at the end, but the management also stuck with him when he wasn't. If he'd have been dropped in November he could have had few complaints and it's disappointing he was so ready to drop his mates in it vs West Brom to force a move.

So whilst he sees things from his side, the club is supposed to act in its own interests, not Aaron Ramsdale's.
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Absolutely spot on👍
 

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