Football isn't fun anymore

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The fun left the game for me when the prices went up to a point where I have to decide if I can justify a day out at the Lane. Unfortunately the game for the working class is slowly drifting away for many people.

Comes to something when the price just to get in the ground used to be what you'd spend on the whole day
 



No need pal we all know what you were implying anyway and I have reported you for your little bit of personal abuse to MalvernBlade and will be happy no delighted to do so again. I have the courage to say that keyboard warrior.
What the fuck is your and people like you's issue? A reasonable thread hijacked again by bigots. FWIW I agree that some of the original power in the taking of the knee has been lost but while ever players of any race feel the need to draw attention to the abuse they're facing (3 more this week) then why would anyone ever have a problem with that? Why always the link to Marxism, it's common human decency, not Marxism.
 
I can go back to 60s when players would plea with ref not book their opponent , imagine that now they would get dropped next game, I really hate this card waving and faking injury.
 
What the fuck is your and people like you's issue? A reasonable thread hijacked again by bigots. FWIW I agree that some of the original power in the taking of the knee has been lost but while ever players of any race feel the need to draw attention to the abuse they're facing (3 more this week) then why would anyone ever have a problem with that? Why always the link to Marxism, it's common human decency, not Marxism.
No issue here it is people like you with the issues.
No issues with kick out racism campaign either.
BLM on the other hand was backed by the Premier League with taking the knee until they found out it was a political movement now the narrative from the EPL is taking the knee is just about racism, it isn't.
 
I can go back to 60s when players would plea with ref not book their opponent , imagine that now they would get dropped next game, I really hate this card waving and faking injury.
prime example mitrovic against west ham going down holding his face when soucek caught him with arm that over the top reaction was to get soucek sent off and it worked then hes the gall to plead with ref that it was an accident
 
What the fuck is your and people like you's issue? A reasonable thread hijacked again by bigots. FWIW I agree that some of the original power in the taking of the knee has been lost but while ever players of any race feel the need to draw attention to the abuse they're facing (3 more this week) then why would anyone ever have a problem with that? Why always the link to Marxism, it's common human decency, not Marxism.
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Tom Grealish, the most fouled player of all time.
A brilliant footballer, but. Watched him and he has made this an art, leaving a leg trailing foot pointed down and all ready on the way to the floor before opponent touches him.
Easy to comment on watching in slow motion replay, but not good in my opinion. It's not only when there isn't another option for him either. Times when he could keep the ball moving and show the player he is.
Arses penalty against us quarter final last season. FFS. Even Pepe(?) looked embarrassed taking it.
 
Tom Grealish, the most fouled player of all time.
A brilliant footballer, but. Watched him and he has made this an art, leaving a leg trailing foot pointed down and all ready on the way to the floor before opponent touches him.
Easy to comment on watching in slow motion replay, but not good in my opinion. It's not only when there isn't another option for him either. Times when he could keep the ball moving and show the player he is.
Arses penalty against us quarter final last season. FFS. Even Pepe(?) looked embarrassed taking it.

A conversation me and my youngest have on a regular basis.

He thinks Grealish is quality and deserves to be regular on the international stage.

I think he's a smug looking floppy haired twat who dives easier than the Red October with a fucking leak.

My lad is probably nearer to being correct than I am, but he'll have to tear the truth from my cold dead hand......................
 
Diving (or exaggerating contact) is so rife now that there's no real way back from it. Every team does it and players of all positions do it (did anyone see Harry Maguire the other night when DCL brushed him!) and 8/9 times out of 10 it works for them and decisions go in their favour. No good retrospectively doing anything because unless its a blatant dive where there's no contact etc, no one can really say anything if some contact is made. I agree though, it does make it a less fun experience when watching.
 
A conversation me and my youngest have on a regular basis.

He thinks Grealish is quality and deserves to be regular on the international stage.

I think he's a smug looking floppy haired twat who dives easier than the Red October with a fucking leak.

My lad is probably nearer to being correct than I am, but he'll have to tear the truth from my cold dead hand......................
This.

He's a quality footballer destined for big things. Deserves the international stage on his ability, but I find his diving antics absolutely embarrassing.
 
I think when crowds return everyone’s passion will be back.”

Key word “when” the best we are going to get for the next couple of years is socially distanced crowds, around 5k allowed in, no away fans, no pubs before or after, no singing, it’s not going to be a very enjoyable experience. My fear is a whole generation is not going to bother to return when we do finally end this hell, there is a lot more for kids to do these days in the home to bother going to cold football grounds in the depths of winter once they have got out of the habit.
We had a similar conversation on our Zoom chat last week.

We haven't got a crystal ball but if crowds aren't allowed back properly for quite some time, I wonder if some clubs will see a notable drop in ticket sales.

I think many clubs will need to carefully consider their pricing.
 
Self-entitled fans who only sing when we're winning, slag off players who have not reached their expectations over ninety minutes.

“McShitty was dogshit”, “Norwood pulls out of tackles”, “Fleck didn’t want to know”, “Ramsdale is our worst ever signing”, “Fuck off Wilder”.......

There are only three results that can come out of every match, win, lose, draw - remember the Millwall match at the Lane two seasons ago? “We’ve shit it now”, “No way we’re going up now”, “Wilder must walk” were some of the educated views, mostly from newish members

Let’s all get a grip, lads
 



Another one is mo sala etc ,covering his trap every time he says something. Get over yer sen budy you ain't that important. Makes me want to puke
Glad you mentioned that, it drives me mad too. Do they really think the shit they will be saying is that interesting, almost as if the think they are MI5 or CIA and cant give us mere plebs any secret information from their no doubt riveting on pitch conversations. They are all at it now as well, must stem from some bullshit media training they have to do.
 
It's such a shame that all these things have coincided with us being in the Premier League. Sod's law init.

This was going down as the worst season ever, no matter where we finished, simply because we can't even go to the match. Fans will be allowed back in at some point though, so at least that will improve.

Diving is annoying but we're probably all quite used to it now so it's not a major thing for me. What I don't understand though, is why retrospective action can't be taken against simulation. It's so easy with all the technology we have. It would soon stop it if retrospective yellow cards could be given out.

The big one that really does need sorting is VAR. It's killed the game for all supporters, but especially those in the ground, it's such a bad thing for the sport. The players, managers and even pundits all hate it as well. Who exactly does it serve? I can't see any benefit to anyone whatsoever other than a bit of interest from people who only watch games on the TV or the highlights. Are we really changing the fundamentals of the beautiful game, just for those people?
 
VAR was brought in for 2 reasons in my opinion. For armchair supporters, the vast majority of which have never attended a game in their lives.

And secondly to benefit the top 6 and monopolise their positions in the top flights. Lost track of the number of times there's been a VAR check off screen that isn't even replayed on TV. Happens at Anfield especially a lot
 
I bet the joy would soon come back if we won a few games. This “it’s all shit” is just another excuse in my view. You only have to look at Man City fans to see how quickly a bit of success changes the outlook of the fan base. I bet if you’d have asked a Niall Quinn era fan what they’d prefer they’d have said the muck and nettles, but now they all think they’re the bollocks and can’t seem to remember where they were before. Wolves to a lesser extent will end up the same.
agree with this^ ask any leeds or villa fan and theyll tell you football is great atm, last season for Villa, and the season before for Leeds, and they wouldve said it’s lost all it’s fun... go figure
 
Hands up those who thought "all the joy has gone" this time last year?

Thought not.
Hand is half way up, VAR was the step over the Rubicon. If it suits the contemporary TV fan and those who don’t mind waiting for “spontaneous” celebrations in the ground, then I would agree that the game has just changed and the joy is there for them (along with Diet Coke and Pringles to watch on “game day”).

For me, it’s taken a big chunk out of the contract between me and football where VAR is used.
 
Heard one from Reading University yesterday saying " we need a full year lockdown and looking around 2 years before anything like normal and possibly 4 to 5 years before we get back to having live events . 😦😦. That was depressing .
Does the twat what said that realise nobody will have job and businesses everywhere will be closed forever.
 
All the joy has gone
Players diving with no one being penalised for simulation
Goals scored then taken away
Penalties given then taken away
obvious offsides not given until much later , or in some cases not given because the play has moved on
(Chelsea's goal by Mount was started by a pass to a player who came back from an obvious offside position to pick the ball up and pass to the player on the wing)
no physical contact allowed ( particularly if the player falls down & grabs the ball )
VAR not able to interpret slow motion replays

I yearn to go back 20 years when football was actually exciting, and you could understand the rules

I remember 20 years ago we used to say the same about how football wasn’t fun anymore and not like the 80’s with much much better atmospheres, proper tackling, more characters and more passion.

Regards diving the irony is since VAR it’s massively improved. Also dissent and ref intimidation has massively improved too since VAR. The players are more aware everything is caught on camera so it’s much more difficult to con the ref.
 
Does the twat what said that realise nobody will have job and businesses everywhere will be closed forever.
Unfortunately I don't think they live in a real world sometimes. They may be so called Professors but boy do they lack common sense. A year ago nobody knew anything about Covid all of a sudden we have dumplings popping up with crap advice all over the airwaves.
 
gordoncharles said:
Hands up those who thought "all the joy has gone" this time last year?

Thought not.
My hand is down
So you weren’t disappointed with the ghost goal at Villa
Or the toenail offside against Spurs

there were many iffy decisions virtually all went against SUFC

I was happy going up , but deep down I knew we would get shafted whenever we played a top 10 side
How many penalties are we awarded compared to them ?
How many times are we awarded a free kick for a tippy tappy infringement against us compared with Manure, Liverpool,Spurs & the rest.
we are considered as perennial foulers, which I can’t really see , but that seems to taint every decision we are involved in.
VAR has just gotten worse & Stockley Park seem to either dismiss anything favourable to us, or looks for any excuse to overrule a beneficial outcome for us
 
I remember 20 years ago we used to say the same about how football wasn’t fun anymore and not like the 80’s with much much better atmospheres, proper tackling, more characters and more passion.

Regards diving the irony is since VAR it’s massively improved. Also dissent and ref intimidation has massively improved too since VAR. The players are more aware everything is caught on camera so it’s much more difficult to con the ref.
doesnt stop em doing it though does it refs are so gullible they fall for everthing my pet hate isnt players diving its players rolling about in agony and thumping the turf like a wrestler when theyve hardly been touched and nothing is done about it
 
I remember the creeping death of cheating but it seemed cheap & was often called out by pundits and managers alike. Problem was it increased and outrages acts not punished, Rivaldo in the world cup anyone? Now pundits have 'normalised' diving, saying a player 'bought' a free kick or penalty by leaving a leg or waiting for a minor contact to dive. Twats the lot of them and Stevie f*cking g remains one of the biggest, huge talent, great heart, massive cheating arsehole but Englands great hope and eventual captain so untouched. Until it's called out as cheating it's part of a game and it's a game the fans are losing.
 
Hands up any fan who regularly watches live football in a ground who thinks VAR has improved the experience.
 
Hands up any fan who regularly watches live football in a ground who thinks VAR has improved the experience.

I was watching one of the early weekend games, thought “fuck it, this is shit”, and tuned into “How it’s Made” for an hour - that’s just through defenders playing patacake passing in their own area again....
 



I agree and this needs discussing with the club and fans.
Either football is a sport or it's another way for Marxists to destroy something they don't have anything to with.
If the clubs employees are using their position to make a statement on their political views then the fans have a right to voice their views.
Typically the Marxists, as you correctly call them didn't like fans being mean and booing. No violence against the players but the fans were physically removed from the ground. Are they going to be banned for booing?
Why are the players showing support for a violent extremist group that were in DC, protesting against the American government and shouting that if they don't get what they want they will burn it down.
Didn't one of our youth players who moved to Chelsea set fire to the training ground?
Wasn't he getting what he wanted?
I suppose we should be grateful that Lundstram hasn't set the pitch alight this season or maybe he's waiting until the end of season before he gets the matches out and starts lobbing bricks through the club windows and setting fire to the ground.
It's not just the Marxism, BLM with antifa have caused $billions damage across America, been involved in the deaths of about 30 people during riots. They endorse the notion of white privilege, reparations, the destruction of nuclear family. They have pulled statues down & tried to deface Churchill. Last straw the graffitied the sacred wall outside Gracelands. & we bend the knee. I will be booing when we get back in for sure.
 

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