Shortlist of 6

[cooperblade]

(Apologies if already posted elsewhere)

We have a shortlist of 6 according to Seth Bennett (who I don't think said 'we understand' or anything like that so he seemed pretty certain - for what that's worth)

Sean O'Driscoll
Micky Adams
Phil Brown
John Carver
Andy Scott
Eddie Howe

 

[sheffielder]

1. S'OD
2. Adams

Not interested in the rest. Howe is a thought but definately the wrong time. I hope there is room for Carver in the new set up though. S'OD is the right time and the players proved on Saturday that we will get better

There is a rumour that Mark Robins was interviewed last week? has anyone else heard this?

 

[Torrix1889]

1. S'OD
2. Adams

Not interested in the rest. Howe is a thought but definately the wrong time. I hope there is room for Carver in the new set up though. S'OD is the right time and the players proved on Saturday that we will get better

There is a rumour that Mark Robins was interviewed last week? has anyone else heard this?

100% agreed, the club MUST pull out all the stops to try and get SOD, if that fails then Adams.

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

1. S'OD
2. Adams

Not interested in the rest. Howe is a thought but definately the wrong time. I hope there is room for Carver in the new set up though. S'OD is the right time and the players proved on Saturday that we will get better

There is a rumour that Mark Robins was interviewed last week? has anyone else heard this?

Yep, that's how it's looked all week to me. Howe and Scott have no experience at this level and whilst Brown may be the cheap in terms of no compo, I'm not sure he has any kind of track record bringing kids through.

Carver is a coach first and foremost, maybe this is a sticking point woith SO'D ? You'd presume he'd want his own man in.

 

[BladeInThatcham]

My tuppence on the short list:
Micky Adams is not the long term solution for this football club. Blackwell mark 2 will keep us in the championship but after that I fail to see where he could take us.
Andy Scott and Eddie Howe are both admitedly up and coming good young managers but I seem to recall Trev stating that he wanted to employ someone with experience of this league. I agree with Sheffielder, in the sense that I think it's the wrong time for them to take this post.
Phil Brown has the experience of this league by getting Hull promoted but I seem to recall that he was backed with money? When he had no cash at Derby he crashed and burned.
John Carver would be the ultimate cheap option but with little experience of management and the bit that he has had, it's fair to say he hasn't done too well. A good coach and probably needs to stay with that.
SOD has taken a very average lower division team into a solid championship outfit, playing excellent football on the way. Billy apart, he has done the whole thing on a shoestring. For the long term, he has to be the man to get the style of play we want to watch. With experienced backroom staff like Carver I believe that this could be a great pairing.

If this is indeed the shortlist, I am surprised that Coleman or Southgate are not on there. Both of whom I wouldn't be pleased with either to be honest.

To me there is only one candidate that stands out, I just can't see past SOD. That said, it is my opinion and I'm sure some folk will disagree with my thoughts - that's what football forums are for.

 

[sheffielder]

Have to admit the longer it goes the more likely it is we will get S'OD. On Seth's tweet it also says no appointment before 28th. All we need is someone like Laws to get sacked and we could be stuffed

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My tuppence on the short list:
Micky Adams is not the long term solution for this football club. Blackwell mark 2 will keep us in the championship but after that I fail to see where he could take us.
Andy Scott and Eddie Howe are both admitedly up and coming good young managers but I seem to recall Trev stating that he wanted to employ someone with experience of this league. I agree with Sheffielder, in the sense that I think it's the wrong time for them to take this post.
Phil Brown has the experience of this league by getting Hull promoted but I seem to recall that he was backed with money? When he had no cash at Derby he crashed and burned.
John Carver would be the ultimate cheap option but with little experience of management and the bit that he has had, it's fair to say he hasn't done too well. A good coach and probably needs to stay with that.
SOD has taken a very average lower division team into a solid championship outfit, playing excellent football on the way. Billy apart, he has done the whole thing on a shoestring. For the long term, he has to be the man to get the style of play we want to watch. With experienced backroom staff like Carver I believe that this could be a great pairing.

If this is indeed the shortlist, I am surprised that Coleman or Southgate are not on there. Both of whom I wouldn't be pleased with either to be honest.

To me there is only one candidate that stands out, I just can't see past SOD. That said, it is my opinion and I'm sure some folk will disagree with my thoughts - that's what football forums are for.

I am surprised that Southgate has been ruled out. He brought kids through at Boro and I am sure will have learn't alot from his experience. I am pretty sure they were roughly 4th when he was sacked. That being said I still want S'OD at any cost

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Yep, that's how it's looked all week to me. Howe and Scott have no experience at this level and whilst Brown may be the cheap in terms of no compo, I'm not sure he has any kind of track record bringing kids through.

Carver is a coach first and foremost, maybe this is a sticking point woith SO'D ? You'd presume he'd want his own man in.

There are rumours that United and S'OD have agreed in principle and the sticking point is the compensation. S'OD is the only man who ticks every box that I can think of; new ethos, style, youngsters etc; In my opinion he is the only man who could start the legacy the powers that be want

 

[Kev Gee]

If the Chairman & Birch as he says want to keep with the changing style & culture of the club then surely its GOT to be SOD.

 

[beightonblade]

I think seth knows as much as our patsy .........................the lack of propaganda cumming out of BDTBL is encouraging.......keep it up Trev...... just make the announcement when the deal is done.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

Andy Scott and Eddie Howe are both admitedly up and coming good young managers but I seem to recall Trev stating that he wanted to employ someone with experience of this league.

An advantage of both the above (and Adams as well) is that if money is likely to be extremely tight, we may have to plunge into Leagues 1 and 2 for new players, and all three may have a much clearer idea on who can be bought cheaply and make a decent impact at Championship level.

 

[sheffielder]

S'OD found his right back in non league. Tick

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

Firstly agree that Colman should be a consideration, I'm not sure about Southgate, not sure he'd bring the fans together, thats the most important thing about the next appointmant. Only SOD or Adams off that list [or someone like O'Neil - I know he won't come] will do that.

Got to disagree about Adams though, he is watching lower division teams all the time and that is were we will be shopping, he will be seeing which players are hurting Port Vale on a weekly basis when he plays against them and I see this as a bonus.

SOD or Adams will tick the right boxes for me in that order.

 

[TAMUS]

I would like S.O.D but think we shoud leave it , till just after Dony match .

 

[SotonBlade]

SOD ticks all the boxes, and i would be fairly certain he knows a hell of a lot about the lower leagues, the majority of his signings for Donny have come from there. He also worked down there when managing Bournemouth

 

[Sharpy]

Should obviously be SOD, but I think we all know damm well that it will be the cheap option, as always.

It wont be SOD, we cant afford him. If carver wins the next few games he will get it, or Adams.

We always go for the cheap option, why are any of you expecting any different this time?

I would bloody love SOD, but it wont be him. Dont get your hopes up as you will get let down.

 

[SwissBlade]

I think seth knows as much as our patsy .........................the lack of propaganda cumming out of BDTBL is encouraging.......keep it up Trev...... just make the announcement when the deal is done.

Thats the most sense you've made in the 18 months I've been on this forum!

I'd rather hear nowt and just get an announcement... so long as its SoD (from that Shortlist at least)

 

[Pinchy]

There may well be a short list but not one of equals. SOD is head and shouldeers above the rest. It's perfectly clear that he is TB's top target and quite right too.

Seth Bennett has very little idea hows these things work if he thinks the compilation of a short list is as far as it's gone. We have identified the man we want. It's the right choice and we are nearing the end game. Anyone else on the short list is there on a 'We'll give you a call if something goes wrong' basis.

 

[SteelCity Blade]

SOD - is the favoured candidate.
Adams - is the safe choice.
Carver - is the cheap option (and that's no disrespect to him).

These are the 3 main candidates in my eyes and they are the only ones I would look at for different individual reasons. If United put in another solid display under Carver on boxing day, then he will force himself into contention.

I get the impression that they want SOD, but that is full of complications. If they cant agree a deal for him they will go for one of the other two and ultimately they may choose Carver. That is the impression I get at the moment.

 

[Blade58]

Does anyone have any logical reason why a new manager will not be announced before the 28th? I can't think of any reason why they should say that?

In the grand scheme of things, it'll take as long as long as it takes. Just seems odd stating it

 

[SwissBlade]

Does anyone have any logical reason why a new manager will not be announced before the 28th? I can't think of any reason why they should say that?

In the grand scheme of things, it'll take as long as long as it takes. Just seems odd stating it

28th? I was hoping by 24th - latest.

Theres no reason why we can't get the right man in by today

 

[Wards]

I think Seth knows about as much as you or I do. I.e fook all!

 

[Houso]

Mr order of preference in those lot:

1) SoD
2) Eddie Howe
3) Scott brothers
4) Micky Adams
5) Phil Brown
6) John Carver

I'd range from ecstatic to accepting should any of them get the job though. That said, if we don't get SoD, I'll be quite disappointed simply because I really think he's the way forward for SUFC over the next 5 years.

 

[bartman]

Should obviously be SOD, but I think we all know damm well that it will be the cheap option, as always.

It wont be SOD, we cant afford him. If carver wins the next few games he will get it, or Adams.

We always go for the cheap option, why are any of you expecting any different this time?

I would bloody love SOD, but it wont be him. Dont get your hopes up as you will get let down.

Was Robson cheap ? Was Speed cheap ? Was Blackwell cheap ? What makes you think Adams will be cheap ?(exisiting manager,compensation to pay,experienced ???)It's a phrase that is always brought out but doesn't stack up on the majority of occasions.

O'Driscoll is probably on less wages than Speed and probably will be if he comes to us...does that mean he is cheap ?

They are interviewing applicants(and probably trying to speak to others off the record) and they will go with their favourite choice and one that we can afford in terms of wages and compo. The list of candidates would suggest they are the people we can afford in terms of wages?

You would love SOD ? Even if he took us down due to the change in style of play he would want to undertake ? Would the fans have the patience or would the fickle minority force him out during the transition period.

Personally I would take Adams before SOD.(unless we can get Big Sam on a short term contract to the end of the season)

 

[Rattly Noise]

We always go for the cheap option, why are any of you expecting any different this time?

We always go for the option who the board think will do the best job AND who we can afford. The two things have to go together.

We might sometimes disagree on who will do the best job, but if the appointment is co-incidentally the cheap option then so be it.

It's important to note though that there's no evidence that any of our managers have been cheap other than people saying so on here (and we all know how accurate that is)..

 

[Sharpy]

Was Robson cheap ? Was Speed cheap ? Was Blackwell cheap ? What makes you think Adams will be cheap ?(exisiting manager,compensation to pay,experienced ???)It's a phrase that is always brought out but doesn't stack up on the majority of occasions.

O'Driscoll is probably on less wages than Speed and probably will be if he comes to us...does that mean he is cheap ?

They are interviewing applicants(and probably trying to speak to others off the record) and they will go with their favourite choice and one that we can afford in terms of wages and compo. The list of candidates would suggest they are the people we can afford in terms of wages?

You would love SOD ? Even if he took us down due to the change in style of play he would want to undertake ? Would the fans have the patience or would the fickle minority force him out during the transition period.

Personally I would take Adams before SOD.(unless we can get Big Sam on a short term contract to the end of the season)

Yes, yes and yes. In terms of compo, quality and salary, they were. Adams will also be cheap as he is at a league two club on what will be a fairly basic salary, nowhere near the compo that will be needed for SOD. He is also a blade, and would jump at the chance to manage us.

Yes I would love SOD, as most fans would, and Im sure most would give him the time.

Of course we will go for the cheap options, this is Sheffield United.

If we want to change the clubs mentality and image over the long term, SOD is the man, not Micky 'Mirror image of Warnok' Adams.

 

[Micalijo]

SOD - is the favoured candidate.
Adams - is the safe choice.
Carver - is the cheap option (and that's no disrespect to him).

These are the 3 main candidates in my eyes and they are the only ones I would look at for different individual reasons. If United put in another solid display under Carver on boxing day, then he will force himself into contention.

I get the impression that they want SOD, but that is full of complications. If they cant agree a deal for him they will go for one of the other two and ultimately they may choose Carver. That is the impression I get at the moment.

It's only full of complications because McCabe has paralysed the football club with his property failures.

 

[sheffielder]

It's only full of complications because McCabe has paralysed the football club with his property failures.

For the love of god, can you just drop it for one thread.

 

[SteelCity Blade]

It's only full of complications because McCabe has paralysed the football club with his property failures.

I prefer not to keep banging that drum. At the end of the day, whatever problems we have now will either impact on our next move or they wont. Pointless worrying about why and who's fault it is IMO.

Its up to the club to now show that it wants to be forward thinking and appoint someone for the long term. Clocks dont turn backwards.

 

[bartman]

Yes, yes and yes. In terms of compo, quality and salary, they were. Adams will also be cheap as he is at a league two club on what will be a fairly basic salary, nowhere near the compo that will be needed for SOD. He is also a blade, and would jump at the chance to manage us.

Yes I would love SOD, as most fans would, and Im sure most would give him the time.

Of course we will go for the cheap options, this is Sheffield United.

If we want to change the clubs mentality and image over the long term, SOD is the man, not Micky 'Mirror image of Warnok' Adams.

So if we don't pay compo it is a cheap option ? That rules Big Sam out,Southgate,Brown etc.

Salary...Robson,Speed and Blackwell were not the lowest wages in the championship ! AS for quality...how can you quantify that in terms of 'cheap? ...Blackburn obviously didn't think Alladyce was quality. You could say the same for every manager that is sacked.

How well do you know the management style of Adams to suggest that he is the mirror image of Warnock ? By all accounts he gets his sides to play with passion,gets them to create chances by playind direct attacking football. If that keeps us up,great.

The 'majority' of fans want SOD as manager or is it just the few you know ? Most I have spoken to have come up with a variety of names so we must move in different circles.

In effect,you are saying that if we don't pick the manager that you want,it will be the cheap option. The club cannot win.

 

[Ollessendro]

1. S'OD
2. Adams

Not interested in the rest. Howe is a thought but definately the wrong time. I hope there is room for Carver in the new set up though. S'OD is the right time and the players proved on Saturday that we will get better

There is a rumour that Mark Robins was interviewed last week? has anyone else heard this?

amen brother.

SOD - is the favoured candidate.
Adams - is the safe choice.
Carver - is the cheap option (and that's no disrespect to him).

These are the 3 main candidates in my eyes and they are the only ones I would look at for different individual reasons. If United put in another solid display under Carver on boxing day, then he will force himself into contention.

I get the impression that they want SOD, but that is full of complications. If they cant agree a deal for him they will go for one of the other two and ultimately they may choose Carver. That is the impression I get at the moment.

spot on SC. I think Birch knows who is man is and is making sure we get him. They have learnt from appointment Blackwell and Speed, which in a way rules out Adams and Carver (for being very similar) respectively.

In my mind they are happy for Carver to take the helm whilst we sort things out. Adams is back up for if we can't get SOD. I'm sure we are trying to get the best deal. We'll have to pay Donny some comp and SUFC will use until the new year to wrangle over how much it is. Believe me, McCabe (a ruthless business man) and Birch will be negotiating hard to get the compo down to as low as possible and desperately trying to forge out a deal.

I am optimistic about getting SOD.

 

[alcoblade]

Theres no reason why we can't get the right man in by today

How you you know that?

UTB