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Bournemouth lost 5 in a row now. Eddie almost in tears at post match press conferences at a loss for how to turn things around. Team looks like they can't be bothered any more. Solanke who came in and jumped straight ahead of Moose in the pecking order can't score to save his nana's life. Funny how just a few months ago Eddie was being touted as one of the best English managers going around and now looks devoid of ideas and totally lost.

On a side note, any other players not performing for them we would nab (excluding Brooks obviously lol) Ake?
 



The wheels have finally fell off the Bournemouth train. See them doing a Sunlund.
 
Only won 7 of their last 29 matches I think? or something like that.

Some stats lover can correct me on this.

Maybe he has taken Bournemouth as far as they can go?
 
Bit hasty this. They're having a bad run and haven't been the Bournemouth who first came into the league for a while, but it was only a few weeks back they were in 6th place .

The league is mental. 2 wins for any team between 8th and 18th puts them into European contention!
 
I thought they played well against Palace and were unfortunate to lose. I wouldn’t write them off just yet either...
 
Seems there's little understanding of the plight of B'mouth. it's an unforgiving division for sure, but to write any manager off because they've lost a game or games, why not get rid of Pep based on this logic? At some point Wilder will hit a brick wall, lose a few games, do we give him his P45? Or do we allow one of the best managers this club has had to find a solution, show his mettle, get us back on our feet? Remember how our first four games went when Chris took over? Yet after a dreadful start we then went on the type of run that we could only dream of.

A drama is never welcome, but please, do not turn this into a crisis. It's hysterical, it doesn't allow for a considered appreciation of the facts, and should we ever be faced with a string of defeats I hope we'll be able to offer a more constructive response than something befitting a mob mentality.
 
Seems there's little understanding of the plight of B'mouth. it's an unforgiving division for sure, but to write any manager off because they've lost a game or games, why not get rid of Pep based on this logic? At some point Wilder will hit a brick wall, lose a few games, do we give him his P45? Or do we allow one of the best managers this club has had to find a solution, show his mettle, get us back on our feet? Remember how our first four games went when Chris took over? Yet after a dreadful start we then went on the type of run that we could only dream of.

A drama is never welcome, but please, do not turn this into a crisis. It's hysterical, it doesn't allow for a considered appreciation of the facts, and should we ever be faced with a string of defeats I hope we'll be able to offer a more constructive response than something befitting a mob mentality.
i agree with you, however, watch the post match interview with howe if you havent yet... he looked completely dejected, they have been very unlucky with injuries, looks like we could have had a last laugh with lys ‘pants down selling for £10m’ mousset
 
i agree with you, however, watch the post match interview with howe if you havent yet... he looked completely dejected, they have been very unlucky with injuries, looks like we could have had a last laugh with lys ‘pants down selling for £10m’ mousset

He does not seem that down, he just knows they are very unlucky with injuries at the moment:

 



i agree with you, however, watch the post match interview with howe if you havent yet... he looked completely dejected, they have been very unlucky with injuries, looks like we could have had a last laugh with lys ‘pants down selling for £10m’ mousset

I saw Eddie, not something I wish upon anyone. Yes it's a cutthroat business, and maintaining a Prem presence must be incredibly hard for clubs outside of the top 6. However, my sympathies don't really lie with any Prem manager as their rewards will provide for life after they've managed a final game for their employers.
I know that sounds harsh, but have some thoughts for those factory workers told that they're being given the heave-ho after 20-30 years employment for the same company. What will they face I wonder? A lifetime of benefits perhaps? It may not be that drastic, but they certainly won't have the financial safety net to compensate for being told they're no longer wanted.
 
Only won 7 of their last 29 matches I think? or something like that.

Some stats lover can correct me on this.

Maybe he has taken Bournemouth as far as they can go?

Without checking their results.... I’d focus on the fact that if they drew fewer than half of the 22 games that they didn’t win, it’s still most likely to represent survival form.

So what if they’re bouncing off the ceiling of their potential? It’s still Prem football. If we survive this season, no doubt similar comments will be made about us. These are the attitudes that killed clubs like charlton and stoke.
 
Burnley are having problems as well. Keep playing Matt Lowton and they look vulnerable down their right hand side.

As far as another one of our former youngsters.......what a game DCL had yesterday. Couldn't wish for a better mentor than Duncan Ferguson.
 
This year the PL is extremely tight, we need to keep picking up points or in the space of a couple of weeks could suddenly be down to the bottom six and the pressure is really on
 
Burnley are having problems as well. Keep playing Matt Lowton and they look vulnerable down their right hand side.

For a team normally associated with being tight defensively, they’ve conceded a lot of goals already.
 
Seems there's little understanding of the plight of B'mouth. it's an unforgiving division for sure, but to write any manager off because they've lost a game or games, why not get rid of Pep based on this logic? At some point Wilder will hit a brick wall, lose a few games, do we give him his P45? Or do we allow one of the best managers this club has had to find a solution, show his mettle, get us back on our feet? Remember how our first four games went when Chris took over? Yet after a dreadful start we then went on the type of run that we could only dream of.

A drama is never welcome, but please, do not turn this into a crisis. It's hysterical, it doesn't allow for a considered appreciation of the facts, and should we ever be faced with a string of defeats I hope we'll be able to offer a more constructive response than something befitting a mob mentality.

All good stuff and I agree 100% with what you've put. But, I don't honestly believe that it will make one jot of difference. You've only got to go back to the threads on here from the other night after our loss to Newcastle and you'll find the negative comments about Wilder and the team have started already from some.

It doesn't matter how good a manager is, it doesn't matter what miracles he's performed to get us here - if we hit a dip in form the knives will be straight out for him, from some. That's just how it is. There is no reasoning with some people...absolutely none. They react like spoilt children if things don't go the way the wanted them to, or expected them to. And they'll lash out at something, someone, everything, everyone. That's what is really sad about it - but it will never change for them - ever. That's just the way they are, not just about football, but I suspect they are just the same about life in general. Intrinsically unhappy people, who make others around them unhappy and destroy relationships due to their negative outlook on life. They know who they are. Let them carry on and remain trapped in their depressing spiral, where football is just one more thing that feeds it.
 
They had a similar run last season and turned it round. They'll end up top half.
 
Bournemouth lost 5 in a row now. Eddie almost in tears at post match press conferences at a loss for how to turn things around. Team looks like they can't be bothered any more. Solanke who came in and jumped straight ahead of Moose in the pecking order can't score to save his nana's life. Funny how just a few months ago Eddie was being touted as one of the best English managers going around and now looks devoid of ideas and totally lost.

On a side note, any other players not performing for them we would nab (excluding Brooks obviously lol) Ake?
He knows he is about to jump ship
 
For a team normally associated with being tight defensively, they’ve conceded a lot of goals already.
Burnley have lost 6 out of last 8 avoiding defeat only versus westham and Watford. I was at turf moor with a Burnley mate to see them lose to Palace. They were woeful so below what Iam used to seeing with us that inside I was glowing with smugness Their early season form and points masks a team heading one way.
 
Yep tight league, when did we last win? If you forget who we've played since our last win you could start moaning about CWAK. I think EH will be alright in the end and so will Bournemouth. At this stage it looks like Norwich Watford and 1 other. Let's hope it still looks like that at 4pm.
 
This Division is so close this season. I would not write any team off and I certainly wouldn't start feeling comfortable in our position.

No reason why Bournemouth won't string a few results together and be OK. It is only December after all.
 
Bit hasty this. They're having a bad run and haven't been the Bournemouth who first came into the league for a while, but it was only a few weeks back they were in 6th place .

The league is mental. 2 wins for any team between 8th and 18th puts them into European contention!
They'll win 3 in a row and finish 12th.

Brooks returning will boost them.

Agreed.

In the Premier League, there is a group of clubs who over a number of seasons appear to have established themselves through being, what our gaffer calls, "spike teams". They can go on runs of performances, with results to match, where they look like relegation fodder, but will then steady the ship with a burst of results - often with back-to-back wins - that keeps them clear of real trouble.

For instance, Palace are generally tedious but appear adroit at targeting matches that they can profit from, as in the recent win at Burnley which they backed up by grinding a win against Bournemouth and a point at Watford; Southampton can be a complete embarrassment against Leicester and others but made sure that when it came to the crunch, by hook or crook, they got the points against Watford and Norwich; and Newcastle can be utterly awful most of the time but then have 2 or 3 games in a row where they reap a load of points that they arguably don't deserve.

I've no doubt that at some stage, when they get players back, Bournemouth will do the same and string together a run of results that keeps them clear of trouble. They did exactly the same last season.

We're not a spike team, as Wilder keeps saying. Our performances must be amongst the most consistent in the league. You might argue that the only 2 games out of 15 this season, when our standards have dropped off, were Watford and Everton. Our lads have turned up and performed pretty much every match.

The concern is that the points we have gathered don't reflect the level of performances; we've left loads of points out on the pitch. Wilder knows and, judging by Egan's interview this week, the players know it. We might easily, probably should, have had 6 to 8 points more from the games we've played.

We're unbeaten in 7 away games but 9 points is a meagre reward for how we've performed. As Wilder says, they've all been 'winning draws'; we've not nicked something that we didn't deserve. Other sides by contrast can turn up 3 times in a week, be awful the rest of the time, and match our points haul.
 
I really hope Watford join them , I really don’t like Pearson, then we only have one more relegation spot to worry about .
 



He's got half or more of his first team injured, and another went off bad yesterday.
He's cobbling a team together in the best league in the world.
 

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