Pig fan grasses Billy up to FIFA

[GrayBlade]

While not the same, both are the activities of the overly-obsessed. Whatever next, a petition?

A petition for brushing against a substitute with the force of a feather whilst celebrating scoring LB? I don’t think so mate.

I agree that there may be some overly-obsessed out there but we’re really not taking like for like are we? That’s why there are levels of culpability in law. Some things are negligible, some aren’t. What Billy did wasn’t even remotely consequential and only the saddest most pathetic Pig would try to pull this one off. That apart I love your posts pal. UTB

 

[Bellypork]

Sharp's not going to get prosecuted for that. Pitsmoorius must have got better eyesight than me. As for Chansiri, it will be interesting (if not appalling) to discover how he actually manages to overcome P&S/FFP, or whatever name you want to ascribe it. I don't think that all the words written about this subject on this site are owing to obsession, but rather a belief that skulduggery is afoot and people want to know how it's done. It's simply human curiosity IMO.

 

[Tezza1889]

Sharp's not going to get prosecuted for that. Pitsmoorius must have got better eyesight than me. As for Chansiri, it will be interesting (if not appalling) to discover how he actually manages to overcome P&S/FFP, or whatever name you want to ascribe it. I don't think that all the words written about this subject on this site are owing to obsession, but rather a belief that skulduggery is afoot and people want to know how it's done. It's simply human curiosity IMO.

From your point of view, what do you think he’s up to?

Based on what wendies know, what is he up to, DTaxis is so clear a fake business it’s not worth discussing but you must know something we don’t, remember this chancer will one day be gone, regardless of anything else you lot have to protect your club, maybe being quiet about his shenanigans isn’t the right move at this time..

 

[Bellypork]

I genuinely don't know yet, but it's not for the want of trying to find out. I've tried to discover (a) what Wilder's kitty will be - so far I've drawn a blank - and (b) how on earth the Bruce scenario has materialized, when we all know that he's chequebook. Someone told me, the same person that told me about the breakdown in relations between Jos and the senior players, that Chansiri had "fixed it". What Nixon reported about an intermediary meeting Bruce a month or so ago is indeed true. Chansiri had had enough after the Norwich shambles (the game prior to the derby), and the angry confrontation with fans. It's also true that Bruce was keen from the off, but that the kitty was the stumbling block. I can assure you categorically that Bruce would not be going to Hillsborough unless there was money to spend and at the very least a moratorium on the top players being sold. The crowd have wanted Jos sacking for some time, but he (Chansiri) tarried while "fixing" the financial situation to give Bruce the funds he needs. The person I spoke to also said that it wasn't insignificant that Chansiri had returned to Thailand in the interim. That's as much as I know.

 

[Rusty view]

I genuinely don't know yet, but it's not for the want of trying to find out. I've tried to discover (a) what Wilder's kitty will be - so far I've drawn a blank - and (b) how on earth the Bruce scenario has materialized, when we all know that he's chequebook. Someone told me, the same person that told me about the breakdown in relations between Jos and the senior players, that Chansiri had "fixed it". What Nixon reported about an intermediary meeting Bruce a month or so ago is indeed true. Chansiri had had enough after the Norwich shambles (the game prior to the derby), and the angry confrontation with fans. It's also true that Bruce was keen from the off, but that the kitty was the stumbling block. I can assure you categorically that Bruce would not be going to Hillsborough unless there was money to spend and at the very least a moratorium on the top players being sold. The crowd have wanted Jos sacking for some time, but he (Chansiri) tarried while "fixing" the financial situation to give Bruce the funds he needs. The person I spoke to also said that it wasn't insignificant that Chansiri had returned to Thailand in the interim. That's as much as I know.

Heard today His dad is buying 49% of the club.

 

[don240]

Heard today His dad is buying 49% of the club.

Chancer & Son, has a nice ring to it. Maybe the BBC could use them for a 21st century re make of Steptoe.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Sharp's not going to get prosecuted for that. Pitsmoorius must have got better eyesight than me. As for Chansiri, it will be interesting (if not appalling) to discover how he actually manages to overcome P&S/FFP, or whatever name you want to ascribe it. I don't think that all the words written about this subject on this site are owing to obsession, but rather a belief that skulduggery is afoot and people want to know how it's done. It's simply human curiosity IMO.

I’ve not seen one suggestion of how he will get around FFP that would appear to work under EFL rules. Selling shares doesn’t. Selling the ground doesn’t and a naming rights deal would have to be firstly a market value and over a specified time so whatever amount it would be classed as income over those years, not in year one ( as I understand it). Most of these type of suggestions look to deal with cash flow issues rather than FFP and I’d guess it’s wishful thinking over on NKT.

Btw. A share sale is not income for the club as they belong to DK.

 

[Bellypork]

I’ve not seen one suggestion of how he will get around FFP that would appear to work under EFL rules. Selling shares doesn’t. Selling the ground doesn’t and a naming rights deal would have to be firstly a market value and over a specified time so whatever amount it would be classed as income over those years, not in year one ( as I understand it). Most of these type of suggestions look to deal with cash flow issues rather than FFP and I’d guess it’s wishful thinking over on NKT.

Btw. A share sale is not income for the club as they belong to DK.

I quite agree. Lack of money isn't the problem, but rather being allowed to spend it is. The only way Chansiri would be allowed to spend more is by making the club's turnover appear bigger than it actually is. Or by having friends. Or both. Which is why everyone, not least Nixon, is confounded. But, as I said in another post, someone told me he'd fixed it. How, of course, is another matter.

 

[EddieColquhoun]

Lack of money isn't the problem, but rather being allowed to spend it is

Would you be prepared to guarantee it?
Which of Dejphon's businesses fund these enormous losses?

 

[Bellypork]

Would you be prepared to guarantee it?
Which of Dejphon's businesses fund these enormous losses?

Chansiri once boasted that he would spend £200 million to get Wednesday into the PL. I don't think anyone has ever questioned the supply of money, including the local journos. But frankly, where the money comes from I don't know. Most people seem to think it's from his family. However, he could be as rich as Croesus and generous with it but it's an irrelevance if the club's turnover (or lack of it) prevents him from spending.

 

[EddieColquhoun]

Chansiri once boasted that he would spend £200 million to get Wednesday into the PL. I don't think anyone has ever questioned the supply of money, including the local journos. But frankly, where the money comes from I don't know. Most people seem to think it's from his family. However, he could be as rich as Croesus and generous with it but it's an irrelevance if the club's turnover (or lack of it) prevents him from spending.

FFP rules haven't prevented him from building a new training ground or investing in the stadium if he wanted to live up to his boasts.

 

[bromtom]

Any inquiries from us to the EFL, they'd dismiss out of hand, local rivalry.

If you're a Bolton, a Rotherham, a Wigan, a Blackburn, a Hull though - they're the ones that should be putting pressure on. It's those teams that are looking at where Wendy are, competing in the middle. If Wendy cheat the system meant to protect teams and spend £20m in January and one of those goes down, that's an injustice.

I'd say the same if it was anyone else too, fucking hate the shady money shit in football. I'd have league appointed accountants if I was in charge. Make sure they're not fudging the numbers.

 

[FATTYFOULKE]

Any inquiries from us to the EFL, they'd dismiss out of hand, local rivalry.

If you're a Bolton, a Rotherham, a Wigan, a Blackburn, a Hull though - they're the ones that should be putting pressure on. It's those teams that are looking at where Wendy are, competing in the middle. If Wendy cheat the system meant to protect teams and spend £20m in January and one of those goes down, that's an injustice.

I'd say the same if it was anyone else too, fucking hate the shady money shit in football. I'd have league appointed accountants if I was in charge. Make sure they're not fudging the numbers.

We shouldn’t be surprised either that the Pig fans are happy for Chansari to cheat the system, don’t forget how they were fully behind the antics of West Ham.

I can honestly say if McCabe we’re cheating the system like Chansari and the Pigs I’d be very unhappy. I’d also be very worried about the future of my club.

Really hope it bites them on the arse and they get a big points deduction or outright relegation as a punishment for outright cheating.

They’re a slimy club going back to the days of the betting scandal and their lovely tradition of sacking Managers at Christmas time.

 

[wizadry]

FFP rules haven't prevented him from building a new training ground or investing in the stadium if he wanted to live up to his boasts.

I’m not saying you’re wrong but them twats turning down £15M? for the diving cunt and spending £10M? on Rhodes shows not only does he have dosh but he also showed a lot of ambition, something a club of our similar size can only dream of. The decision making from them is what’s seen them suffer, something I hope carries on for a long time yet.

Anyway, fuck them twats.

 

[Sean Thornton]

I quite agree. Lack of money isn't the problem, but rather being allowed to spend it is. The only way Chansiri would be allowed to spend more is by making the club's turnover appear bigger than it actually is. Or by having friends. Or both. Which is why everyone, not least Nixon, is confounded. But, as I said in another post, someone told me he'd fixed it. How, of course, is another matter.

Yet they were under a transfer embargo for not paying HMRC.

 

[Fanny magnet]

If money isn't a problem why do they play in a partly condemned stadium covered in rust ,have an inflatable academy and charge a fortune to get in the rusty blue skip ?

 

[Houston_Blade]

I quite agree. Lack of money isn't the problem, but rather being allowed to spend it is. The only way Chansiri would be allowed to spend more is by making the club's turnover appear bigger than it actually is. Or by having friends. Or both. Which is why everyone, not least Nixon, is confounded. But, as I said in another post, someone told me he'd fixed it. How, of course, is another matter.

Big brown envelope delivered to the EFL?!

 

[Sean Thornton]

Big brown envelope delivered to the EFL?!

Don’t think their problem really arises until after this season. They have losses of around £9m for 2016 and £20m for 2017. Purely assuming a loss of £20m for 2018 would give them £49m for the three years. It’s not hard to imagine the allowed adjustments bringing that down to below £39m so they’re okay for now. (All depending of course on the +/- on the 2018 losses).

2019 is the issue when they could have accumulated losses of £60m plus, less adjustments. So Chansiri has until the end of May to work his financial magic. Which is why promotion was a must for them this year. Taxis and drinks don’t seemed to have pulled the wool over anyone’s eyes so he’s going to have to up his game. Shit or bust probably.

 

[GrayBlade]

Well the latest rumour is that the Rust Bucket is being sold to one of Chancer’s relatives for £30m

https://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/topic/279512-ground-being-sold-in-february/

 

[Fanny magnet]

Well the latest rumour is that the Rust Bucket is being sold to one of Chancer’s relatives for £30m

https://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/topic/279512-ground-being-sold-in-february/

What would be the point of that ? Thought money wasn't a problem ?

 

[wizadry]

What would be the point of that ? Thought money wasn't a problem ?

I’m not up to date with this sort of stuff as good as some on here but if they sold the ground for £30M does that not then help them out with their losses? Meaning it frees money up to spend?

 

[Sean Thornton]

I’m not up to date with this sort of stuff as good as some on here but if they sold the ground for £30M does that not then help them out with their losses? Meaning it frees money up to spend?

As l understand it sales of tangible assets don’t count.

In any event, even if it did it would only give them a profit of around £5m, clearly not enough.

NKT Pigonomics at its very best.

 

[wizadry]

As l understand it sales of tangible assets don’t count.

In any event, even if it did it would only give them a profit of around £5m, clearly not enough.

NKT Pigonomics at its very best.

Plus they’d still have to pay a realistic rent on the ground meaning it would damage their future even more?

This sounds like a reyt idea.

 

[EddieColquhoun]

I’m not saying you’re wrong but them twats turning down £15M? for the diving cunt and spending £10M? on Rhodes shows not only does he have dosh but he also showed a lot of ambition, something a club of our similar size can only dream of. The decision making from them is what’s seen them suffer, something I hope carries on for a long time yet.

Anyway, fuck them twats.

I don't think you get my point, pal.
They seem to argue that he can't spend money because of the rules. There's nothing stopping him smartening up the Rustbucket or building new training facilities.
£15m?? Did that rumour come from a pub in Penistone?

 

[wizadry]

I don't think you get my point, pal.
They seem to argue that he can't spend money because of the rules. There's nothing stopping him smartening up the Rustbucket or building new training facilities.
£15m?? Did that rumour come from a pub in Penistone?

Ah, right, I get you now.

The only other reason I think he wouldn’t improve the death trap is if they were moving somewhere else, as in no point?

I put a ? next to the valuation because I saw it some where but didn’t know if it was true or not?

Don’t worry pal, I don’t like the twats as much as anyone but I’m trying to be objective and understand what the actual fuck is going on down there.

 

[Isar]

FFP rules haven't prevented him from building a new training ground or investing in the stadium if he wanted to live up to his boasts.

True, but they are long term plans and ambitions, he seems a I want it now type of dictator, I mean chairman.

 

[Isar]

Well the latest rumour is that the Rust Bucket is being sold to one of Chancer’s relatives for £30m

https://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/topic/279512-ground-being-sold-in-february/

So will Wednesday become rent boys?

 

[adebo]

Long way to go yet, they could still make it.

Let's just enjoy how we do and hope we're in the mix at the end. If we meet them, it'll be some fixture!

Derby I assume?

 

[Sean Thornton]

So will Wednesday become rent boys?

If John West pay for naming rights to the shithole will it become known as the Chumbucket?

 

[Kev Gee]

Should go the whole hog (haha) and and get the Beeb to do an hour long Panarama special?

Schoolboy error on my part.

Will copy in FIFA and maybe the BBC.

Not sure how telling the BBC will help but surely they can make up their own shit about how it is affecting the womens game in some obscure way. Maybe once people realise this then something will be done about it.