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He's a young player with a lot of potential. At times he's looked excellent, at others he's been anonymous and weak. It happens and we cant expect to sign players for the money we do and think they are going to be the full package.

Big season for him and Lunny next time out as they probably battle for the one slot. Personally I think Evans is the better player with more to offer but time will tell
 



i think both of these players are technically excellent, but still learning there trade. It was interesting to hear Paul Coutts agreeing with this sentiment the other day, he was raving. I have more worries over Evans due to his penchant to go missing. He lacks consistency and goes from excellent to poor from game to game.It's very early to be judging these guys as they haven't had a full pre season with United and are stepping up at least one division. Evans hasn't actually played much first team football at any level.It's also important to understand that we've routinely dominated the midfield area since Coutts got injured; it's not as if we are losing the midfield battle every week. I would look closer to both boxes.
 
nopigfansintown said:
i think both of these players are technically excellent, but still learning there trade. It was interesting to hear Paul Coutts agreeing with this sentiment the other day, he was raving. I have more worries over Evans due to his penchant to go missing. He lacks consistency and goes from excellent to poor from game to game.It's very early to be judging these guys as they haven't had a full pre season with United and are stepping up at least one division. Evans hasn't actually played much first team football at any level.It's also important to understand that we've routinely dominated the midfield area since Coutts got injured; it's not as if we are losing the midfield battle every week. I would look closer to both boxes.
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Evans reminds me a lot of Coutts when he first came. Obviously there is class there but he's not at it week in, week out and can often look disinterested as if he's not on the ball he doesn't offer a great deal.
 
I am too young, but didn't the young Alan Woodward get some stick from the moaners?
 
PLEASE stop with the Lundstram lLovely Legs Love In. It's turning out like you have an agenda. Not counting sub appearances or cups Lundstram first played in the League against Forest. He scored. We lost. He played the following game in October. We won 1-0. He next started on 31st October against QPR. We lost. He then started against Fulham on 21st November when we lost 5-4. He started the next seven and we had one win, two draws and four losses to the end of the year. So to the end of 2017Lundstram and the team without the malign influence of Evans had a record of 7 losses 2 draws and 2 wins. He then added 2 draws to his record before the introduction of Evans to the team away at Norwich. He missed that game and the next three. Our record with the horrendous Evans was two wins and two losses. Team with Lundstram only - 7 losses, 4 draws and 2 wins. Team with Evans only 2 wins and 2 losses. Statistics can prove anything but that win percentage is telling.

Lundstram and Evans first played together from the start against QPR. We won. The next game was Hull without Lundstram and we lost. Reading without Lundstram. We won. Fulham without Lundstram we unsurpringly lost. Lundstram returned with Evans against Ipswich and we drew. I seem to recall someone failing to shoot when clear on goal in that game. Next Burton. No Lundstram. Won. Forest no Lundstram draw. Brentford Lundstram starts, no Evans Draw. Cardiff, both start. Draw. Barnsley, both start. Loss. Boro, both start. Win. Millwall both start. Draw. Brum, both start loss.

So taking teams with Evans starting alone since he arrived. We have 4 wins, 4 losses and 1 draw. 9 games 13 points - 1.44 pg. Lundstram alone has 3 wins, 4 draws and 7 losses - 14 games 13 points - 0.93 pg. putting them together results in 1.28 pg. Doing a complete comparison it results in Lundstram starts Win 4, Draw 8 and Loss 9 - 21 games 20 points 0.95pg. Evans Win 6 Draw 4 Loss 6. 16 games 22 points 1.37pg.

Apart from the fact that It is my honest opinion that Evans is the better and more creative midfielder (hence why CW used Lundstram as a sub to close out games), it seems that we are statistically better off when he plays.

Now check through that for errors!:confused:o_O
 
Bladezz said:
He cannot play for us. He cannot pass it forward. He was worse today than when he played at Barnsley. He’s managed to make it so we cannot attack like pre Christmas as he constantly passes it backwards. What he was doing for there first goal is Sunday league.

Cannot wait for Coutts to come back in.
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Think this is harsh on Evans. Looks a good footballer at times, and he will get better as he gets more settled. By far and away the best signing of January.
 
Coutts better be Xavi in disguise when he comes back otherwise some people on here are going to be extremely deflated.

Evans and Lundstram are still pretty young. Writing them off so soon, while it is the Blades way, is a touch harsh. I put Leonard into this category too. If at end of next season they have not progressed then maybe fair enough but as it stands we have three young players who haven’t played much if at all at this level before so give them a chance.
 
Evans wasn't that bad at Brum yesterday - as some say - he ALWAYS shows for the ball and did yesterday. The issue yesterday was how the midfield started - we in effect played 3-5-1-1. It worked for 20 minutes but then Brum took over the game. They were pretty awful and any decent team would have done them easily. At half time WE needed to step up 2nd half - except we didn't, it was brum that did and thoroughly deserved to win the game - as poor as side as they are/were.

Our wing backs as is now customary were poor yesterday and having 5 across the middle did us no favours. It's not as if Lunny/ Evans or Fleck got up to support Duffy and Donaldson - they didn't. Against Barnsley in the 2nd half Fleck was almost playing centre forward, yet Brum nullified everything we did.

As for the OP title "Lee Evans" - he had no one to pass it forward as we were 1 short with playing 3-5-1-1 instead of 3-4-1-2. Just staggered that CW started this way but we have had quite a few strange teams in the past few weeks.

One thing is crystal clear - if Coutts is fit for August - he's the first name on the team sheet and whether Evans & Fleck join him is anyone's guess.

We need to play smarter next season, that is for sure.

Birmingham deserved to win the game - but they are as bad as their position suggests. Once again too many average or poor performances, but I'd put Evans as one of the better ones yesterday.

UTB
 
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Fulwood Blade said:
Evans wasn't that bad at Brum yesterday - as some say - he ALWAYS shows for the ball and did yesterday. The issue yesterday was how the midfield started - we in effect played 3-5-1-1. It worked for 20 minutes but then Brum took over the game. They were pretty awful and any decent team would have done them easily. At half time WE needed to step up 2nd half - except we didn't, it was brum that did and thoroughly deserved to win the game - as poor as side as they are/were.

Our wing backs as is now customary were poor yesterday and having 5 across the middle did us no favours. It's not as if Lunny/ Evans or Fleck got up to support Duffy and Donaldson - they didn't. Against Barnsley in the 2nd half Fleck was almost playing centre forward, yet Brum nullified everything we did.

As for the OP title "Lee Evans" - he had no one to pass it forward as we were 1 short with playing 3-5-1-1 instead of 3-4-1-2. Just staggered that CW started this way but we have had quite a few strange teams in the past few weeks.

One thing is crystal clear - if Coutts is fit for August - he's the first name on the team sheet and whether Evans & Fleck join him is anyone's guess.

We need to play smarter next season, that is for sure.

Birmingham deserved to win the game - but they are as bad as their position suggests. Once again too many average or poor performances, but I'd put Evans as one of the better ones yesterday.

UTB
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Too many times we've been outfought by these struggling teams. It's embarrassing, it really is.
 
Guesty said:
I just saying that replacing Coutts with Lundstram constituted a huge drop in quality that is reflected in our plummet down the league.
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This is a good point, but you seem to be attributing our 'plummet' to the addition of Lundstram rather than the loss of Coutts.
 
Fulwood Blade said:
Evans wasn't that bad at Brum yesterday - as some say - he ALWAYS shows for the ball and did yesterday. The issue yesterday was how the midfield started - we in effect played 3-5-1-1. It worked for 20 minutes but then Brum took over the game. They were pretty awful and any decent team would have done them easily. At half time WE needed to step up 2nd half - except we didn't, it was brum that did and thoroughly deserved to win the game - as poor as side as they are/were.

Our wing backs as is now customary were poor yesterday and having 5 across the middle did us no favours. It's not as if Lunny/ Evans or Fleck got up to support Duffy and Donaldson - they didn't. Against Barnsley in the 2nd half Fleck was almost playing centre forward, yet Brum nullified everything we did.

As for the OP title "Lee Evans" - he had no one to pass it forward as we were 1 short with playing 3-5-1-1 instead of 3-4-1-2. Just staggered that CW started this way but we have had quite a few strange teams in the past few weeks.

One thing is crystal clear - if Coutts is fit for August - he's the first name on the team sheet and whether Evans & Fleck join him is anyone's guess.

We need to play smarter next season, that is for sure.

Birmingham deserved to win the game - but they are as bad as their position suggests. Once again too many average or poor performances, but I'd put Evans as one of the better ones yesterday.

UTB
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Highlighted paragraph sums up why we have faltered the last few weeks 3-5-1-1 just hasn't worked.
 
Chali 2na said:
This is a good point, but you seem to be attributing our 'plummet' to the addition of Lundstram rather than the loss of Coutts.
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True enough and it *is* more down to the loss of Coutts. However as I said earlier in the thread I don't think Lundstram is particularly good and I certainly don't think he was an adequate replacement for Coutts .

That said I certainly don't want to lay all the blame at his feet.
 
Guesty said:
Most of them were on the team that reached the top in the first place. Lundstram, for the most part, wasn't.
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We were on top for the first half and then Evans gifts them the goal. Lundstram comes off at half time and we get battered.
 
I really don't think any of the players that have been in and around the first team should receive any criticism. They've all been expected to play at a higher level and intensity than they've ever done in their career, and for the majority of it I think they've done themselves proud. With our transfer and wage budget they've all done fantastic, and don't deserve any of the criticism some of our fanbase just love to give out.
 
He cost us again. Cannot control a ball another mistake from him involving there goal.

However Blackman must do better.
 
Bladezz said:
He cost us again. Cannot control a ball another mistake from him involving there goal.

However Blackman must do better.
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That was a really poor ball to him by Blackman. Very hard to control.

Once again buggering around in our own half costs us.
 
Revolution said:
That was a really poor ball to him by Blackman. Very hard to control.

Once again buggering around in our own half costs us.
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Really? Might have been the angle I saw it at but if he isn’t expecting to control that then he shouldn’t be playing
 
LJBlade said:
Really? Might have been the angle I saw it at but if he isn’t expecting to control that then he shouldn’t be playing
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You might be right, but to me it looked a Bad throw.

And it was a bad decision by Blackman given there were 2 Preston players standing next to Evans.
 



Revolution said:
You might be right, but to me it looked a Bad throw.

And it was a bad decision by Blackman given there were 2 Preston players standing next to Evans.
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Wow you must be joking here. It was a decent throw he couldn’t control it dead. Tried to turn on it and his touch was wayward. He then does a decent tackle from his first touch and they score.

Then Blackman has to do better and then stevens must read it quicker.
 
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