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Snowman said:
I have a great respect for your views in this post save for your choice of guitars and amps. Otherwise, yes buy a big amp and good speakers and learn that the volume knob on the guitar should not move from 10. If you want to play softer get an acoustic. That is a good life lesson.
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The FlamingLip of 10 years ago is shouting 'Yeeeaaaah right on maaaaa b-rothaaaaaa".

The FlamingLip of today is nodding whilst muttering "dont tell em ive discovered SansAmp through small crystal clear monitors".

Seriously, from Messa to Marshall to Bassman. The thing is genius.
 



FlamingLip said:
The FlamingLip of 10 years ago is shouting 'Yeeeaaaah right on maaaaa b-rothaaaaaa".

The FlamingLip of today is nodding whilst muttering "dont tell em ive discovered SansAmp through small crystal clear monitors".

Seriously, from Messa to Marshall to Bassman. The thing is genius.
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Admittedly technology has advanced since the 70's!
 
blackydog said:
Hated it maybe, but have you ultimately benefitted from it?
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Impossible question to answer, as I don't now how things would have played out if I hadn't have gone. In the same way, I wonder if I would have been better going to a different University, rather than Durham which is like Hogwarts for sloane rangers. Who knows.
 
bladeinbolton said:
Impossible question to answer, as I don't now how things would have played out if I hadn't have gone. In the same way, I wonder if I would have been better going to a different University, rather than Durham which is like Hogwarts for sloane rangers. Who knows.
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Without going right back through this thread. Did you do something you could not have done without the degree?
 
blackydog said:
Without going right back through this thread. Did you do something you could not have done without the degree?
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Yes, but equally I could have done something else that didn't require a degree where I would have got at least the same level of job satisfaction. All I do know (from experience) is that in my line of work we have relatively poor salaries and sod all job security.
 
FWIW and at the risk of taking this even further off topic, The University of Sheffield is now 109th in the world rankings. This represents a drop against last year but still places it above anything Italy and Spain has to offer, and only 1 institute in France is above it. It is an institution to cherish. The list is, as you may expect, dominated by the USA, but topped by Oxford.
 
Blade for Sale said:
FWIW and at the risk of taking this even further off topic, The University of Sheffield is now 109th in the world rankings. This represents a drop against last year but still places it above anything Italy and Spain has to offer, and only 1 institute in France is above it. It is an institution to cherish. The list is, as you may expect, dominated by the USA, but topped by Oxford.
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Still full of tossers and we beat them at football though :)
 
sitwell said:
What age did you decide you knew what you wanted to do ? I never knew ,the one job I did want (apart from footballer :) ) I couldnt have so I just went through life until something jumped out at me ,you must be very single minded and lucky.
Some great advice on here for kids including yours and NTB ,make sure you are happy as you spend most of your time there ,better than any careers officer on here.

Im going through it again now ,my eldest is thinking of coming out of the forces but doesn't know what to do as yet. Hes got time to think anyway ,hes just been posted to Nigeria until Xmas.
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I knew what I wanted to do when I was about 16, I think. Nothing else really appealed to me.

I agree that happiness at work is important - and is very underrated. If you enjoy what you do (at least most of the time) and it pays at least ok that's a very good position to be in.
 
There is a case for more people going to University but in defined areas such as STEM, as other countries are churning out qualified graduates in these subjects and will "win" the race for these well paid, growing jobs globally. Did you see this week that the vast majority of work visas for coming into the UK are in IT? This reflects a severe skills/qualifications shortage (and the fact that Radio_Blade) "works" in this field ;-)

Even so, I am helping one of my mates' sons at the moment who wants to do IT as a career but wants to come at it from a practical rather than academic point of view. We have mapped out the options to do this, including getting qualified up to degree level that doesn't involve going to University and getting into debt. He has no access to any other "careers advice" that has helped in this direction and his school (private) only want to push him down some generic University route.
 
Yesterday i saw several students wandering round completely lost...obviously i directed them all to Bramall lane, cos we all know that's where your education should be started ! UTB
 
Glyn Hodges left foot said:
Yesterday i saw several students wandering round completely lost...obviously i directed them all to Bramall lane, cos we all know that's where your education should be started ! UTB
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Actually that's one thing that's gone out of fashion - redirecting bewildered freshers towards the places they want to go. In the era of smartphones no self respecting kid asks for directions.
 



sitwell said:
What age did you decide you knew what you wanted to do ? I never knew ,the one job I did want (apart from footballer :) ) I couldnt have so I just went through life until something jumped out at me ,you must be very single minded and lucky.
Some great advice on here for kids including yours and NTB ,make sure you are happy as you spend most of your time there ,better than any careers officer on here.

Im going through it again now ,my eldest is thinking of coming out of the forces but doesn't know what to do as yet. Hes got time to think anyway ,hes just been posted to Nigeria until Xmas.
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i never did i just kind of wandered into it
 
Wapping Blade said:
There is a case for more people going to University but in defined areas such as STEM, as other countries are churning out qualified graduates in these subjects and will "win" the race for these well paid, growing jobs globally. Did you see this week that the vast majority of work visas for coming into the UK are in IT? This reflects a severe skills/qualifications shortage (and the fact that Radio_Blade) "works" in this field ;-)

Even so, I am helping one of my mates' sons at the moment who wants to do IT as a career but wants to come at it from a practical rather than academic point of view. We have mapped out the options to do this, including getting qualified up to degree level that doesn't involve going to University and getting into debt. He has no access to any other "careers advice" that has helped in this direction and his school (private) only want to push him down some generic University route.
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I haven't worked in IT since 2003!
 
Wapping Blade said:
There is a case for more people going to University but in defined areas such as STEM, as other countries are churning out qualified graduates in these subjects and will "win" the race for these well paid, growing jobs globally. Did you see this week that the vast majority of work visas for coming into the UK are in IT? This reflects a severe skills/qualifications shortage (and the fact that Radio_Blade) "works" in this field ;-)

Even so, I am helping one of my mates' sons at the moment who wants to do IT as a career but wants to come at it from a practical rather than academic point of view. We have mapped out the options to do this, including getting qualified up to degree level that doesn't involve going to University and getting into debt. He has no access to any other "careers advice" that has helped in this direction and his school (private) only want to push him down some generic University route.
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School Career Advisors or whatever they call themselves these days are in the Hammond category of wage thieves. Always have been.

And many parents tend to give advice based on how things were when they were that age, so for many, Uni seems the best option, because twenty years ago, it probably was.

He's lucky he's got someone to give him good advice.
 
All these students goes a long way to massaging the employment figures.

About 20% tops the true academics should be in universities the rest should be encouraged into manual work.
 
When I left school in 1970 the only careers advice was "they want somebody in the steelworks take this card to Brown Bailey's" .................................... everyone at Hinde House school got that line, fook that. I had the choice of three jobs in the motor trade two of them apprenticeships and took the one which paid best and also allowed me to train to a higher standard of Motor Vehicle Technician as well as just Motor Mechanic.
 
metalblade said:
When I left school in 1970 the only careers advice was "they want somebody in the steelworks take this card to Brown Bailey's" .................................... everyone at Hinde House school got that line, fook that. I had the choice of three jobs in the motor trade two of them apprenticeships and took the one which paid best and also allowed me to train to a higher standard of Motor Vehicle Technician as well as just Motor Mechanic.
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All my family was in the building trade only one industry I was going into at 15
 
west_yorks_blade said:
I have a confession.

I came to Sheffield in 1982 as an 18 year old, student doing business studies at the Poly. I'd been to games many times in the midlands,where I hailed from but never felt an allegiance to anyone.

I went to a United game in my first week, it felt right - they were the nitty gritty city team, the pigs were fashionable pretty boys. From the second I went into the stadium (on my own) and stood on the kop, I was totally hooked. I have been going now for 34 years, held a season ticket for most of them, been all over watching United including all the Wembley trips, got 2 lads who are passionate unitedites.
Whilst at Poly I met and was lectured in Economics by the late and great Dave Wicketts. There we were, a Londoner and a midlander who spent as much time as possible discussing the Blades and as little time as possible talking about economics. Brilliant days then, and brilliant days now.

I am living proof that some of those pesky students hang around, and develop a love for united. Be patient when little Tarquin turns up with his mum and dad and holds you up for a few minutes. He may sit next to you for the next 50 years at BL.
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I have a very similar story but it was '79 and I rocked up as a spotty faced youth to study Chemistry at Western Bank, (with a single suitcase on the train as above). I first went down the Lane in October of that year and was hooked by the atmosphere, the passion, the fans and absolutely Alex Sabella during a defeat at home to Colchester (this was with another fellow who posts on here, he can identify himself if he likes). I spent 10 years in Sheffield where I shagged a lot of your birds and drank a lot of your beer, became Dr North Somerset, got married, my son was born and I loved the place and I still do. My spiritual home so there, so what if I'm soppy :)
 
FlamingLip said:
Shit. An absolute monster. Sorry for your loss SP!
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nah it recovered. hence the story. took it to Pete Hartley completely mashed.. came back an absolute monster.. swapped it for a Gallien Kruger.. dumb!!.. although it didn't take up half of my crappy bedsit
 



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