Charlieblade
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I suspect we would try to cash in on one of Hamer / Anel / Souza with their release clauses.
Is this correct? Any links? Maybe I’m just being dumb? Do they all have release clauses?
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I suspect we would try to cash in on one of Hamer / Anel / Souza with their release clauses.
Is this correct? Any links? Maybe I’m just being dumb? Do they all have release clauses?
Is this correct? Any links? Maybe I’m just being dumb? Do they all have release clauses?
Thanks for your reply.Presumption from me. I’d expect there will be release clauses in at least one of these.
I bloody well hope soPresumption from me. I’d expect there will be release clauses in at least one of these.
I meant we CANT keep buyingFormula now seems to be you need outfield , 7 monster athletes, 2 skill players, 1 quality I many striker in the first eleven
Mcatee , Archer , would work if we had the other 8, Trusty does have potential though, as does Anel maybe with right players around him. I suppose problem is that we don't have many finished articles ..
If top sides had their signings not performing they just loan them out and buy another.Our signings have to work every time as we can't afford to do that, so it ain't always about wrong signings , it's we can keep buying until one works like others can and at another level of player in addition
With this team you think we'd be straight back up again?The way this current team are performing,getting out would not be up.Some of the newer players have not even played Championship football,that's how desperate this season is.I don’t think last years promoted teams are comparable though.
Fulham, location and money.
Bournemouth, money, money, money (just hide it well)
Forest, shit fivers and buy buy buy
All three were in a MUCH better position than the three that came up this year.
The gap is getting bigger, I feel. Only have to look at the top of the Championship and apart from Leicester, it’s hardly terrifying and think with this team we’d be straight back up again.
Until we have the cash and/or ambition to do better, we’ll just keep yo yo’ing for a few years at best.
But considering the dross we had for years and years, in the Champ/League 1 etc…I’ll happily take it and enjoy the ride
The mega wealthy cabal at the top is all that matters. The rest are only there to make up the numbers because the top clubs need other teams to play against. I can’t see the point of being in a league that we can never be competitive in. Finishing 17th is defined as success? Fuck that.the prem is 3 leagues in one 7 capable of spending billions 6 wannabes trying to catch up and 7 hard working sides picking up crumbs
3 promoted stayed up last season so its possible to cling on but every year the rich get richer
wish theyd buggar off to a euro league so the competition improves
I was just going to post a thread about this, the gap is now huge.
Leicester got relegated last year, if they couldn't stay up what chance do any of the promoted clubs have?
With that said, we should be well ahead of Luton having finished higher than them in the championship and with more time to prepare, that's the benchmark for me as well as getting over 11 points.
Heard hasslebank say on Saturday night, if you go up to the prem you need to buy prem players to have a chance to stay up. We haven't ours at best are championship and unknown foreign players because we have tried to do it on the cheap. When Saudi are paying big money for players not used by long standing prem clubs they can spend that on my bigger players leaving promoted clubs way behind. It's a joke when the subs are worth more than our club. We will only survive up there if we get a billionaire and that's not happening anytime soon. There will be flukes that stay up for a season but the gap is becoming too big between the divisions
I think the difference in standard is slightly misleading.
The real reason for the gap and some did mention it at the time is the new 5 subs from a bench of 7 subs rule.
Promoted clubs tend to have a highly competitive first 11 but the standard severely drops when you go through the squad.
Also injuries massively affect newly promoted clubs.
The gap is more related to the back up squad players,
Established PL teams even have reserve players and sometimes 3rd choice players who are top level PL standard players.
I've given (what I believe is valid) criticism towards Hecky but he must feel so depressed on the 70 minute mark of every match.
The opposition are able to make mass changes, taking off tired players, replacing them with fresh similar standard top PL players.
Where as we're taking off players and replacing them with development players (like Traore) who aren't even Championship standard.
So we're always at a massive disadvantage during the last 20 minutes of every match.
Also the new rule creating additional extra times......makes this situation worse.
The PL clubs are quite clever...they want to protect their own interests and almost create a closed shop.
So they come up with ideas to give their clubs a big advantage.
Regards the Prince, think he's done OK regards producing a first 11, but he never legislated for a massive injury list
and as you delve into our squad the back up players are really lacking quality.
Yep 100% vaild- only thing is in addition our starting 11 is not highly competitive.I think the difference in standard is slightly misleading.
The real reason for the gap and some did mention it at the time is the new 5 subs from a bench of 7 subs rule.
Promoted clubs tend to have a highly competitive first 11 but the standard severely drops when you go through the squad.
Also injuries massively affect newly promoted clubs.
The gap is more related to the back up squad players,
Established PL teams even have reserve players and sometimes 3rd choice players who are top level PL standard players.
I've given (what I believe is valid) criticism towards Hecky but he must feel so depressed on the 70 minute mark of every match.
The opposition are able to make mass changes, taking off tired players, replacing them with fresh similar standard top PL players.
Where as we're taking off players and replacing them with development players (like Traore) who aren't even Championship standard.
So we're always at a massive disadvantage during the last 20 minutes of every match.
Also the new rule creating additional extra times......makes this situation worse.
The PL clubs are quite clever...they want to protect their own interests and almost create a closed shop.
So they come up with ideas to give their clubs a big advantage.
Regards the Prince, think he's done OK regards producing a first 11, but he never legislated for a massive injury list
and as you delve into our squad the back up players are really lacking quality.
The morale of the team will be on its knees by then, and we continue to slip down the leagues.Yep 100% vaild- only thing is in addition our starting 11 is not highly competitive.
Barring Luton - I'd say 10 of our 11 don't start in any other Prem team.
The ask for Hecky is plain ridiculous- it's just not his fault-
Pages & pages on here about
1- His lack of plan B
2- No fight in the team
3- Slow to make changes
4- Poor substitutions
It's all bollox - the grim reality is the team is not good enough. He and his team are fine- but it's impossible task.
Stick with Hecky until 10 matches in the champ next year.
I agree but the point I am making- is that is not going to change with a new manager- if you were looking at a team that was massively underperforming- then an option to change would be valid to freshen things up- impose different structures blah blah blah.The morale of the team will be on its knees by then, and we continue to slip down the leagues.
The exception that proves the ruleLast 15 mins.
Man U = Mason Mount
Sheff U = Benie Traore
We are a solid championship side and weren’t always all that convincing last season I don’t think but a solid defence got us through how many 1-0 wins plus some excellent loans performing for us in Mcatee and Doyle (wish we could have got him back, before Wolves got in) and Ndiaye performing his magic. The problem in Prem is that most teams have all these ingredients already and then someI agree but the point I am making- is that is not going to change with a new manager- if you were looking at a team that was massively underperforming- then an option to change would be valid to freshen things up- impose different structures blah blah blah.
But with these players a change in management is going to achieve exactly nowt and cost a lot of money to do so.
Saturday night- for 60 minutes we were competing- McB gets injured- we having zero back up- thats not on Hecky - its the mire we are in.
Exactly this. Piggies aren’t good enough to compete in the championship, and changing their manager is widely acknowledged on here to be sure to achieve very little. Same goes for us. I suspect we’ll get a few wins across the season but the gulf in class and the strength in depth of other teams is frightening.I agree but the point I am making- is that is not going to change with a new manager- if you were looking at a team that was massively underperforming- then an option to change would be valid to freshen things up- impose different structures blah blah blah.
But with these players a change in management is going to achieve exactly nowt and cost a lot of money to do so.
Saturday night- for 60 minutes we were competing- McB gets injured- we having zero back up- thats not on Hecky - its the mire we are in.
Last seasons championship was widely regarded by many people to be the worse championship since it took up that format looking at the premiership table as it stands today who can argue
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