Hull's gamesmanship

[Bell4]

Fair play to them. You play to the ref and they had him figured out early on.
They came for a result and got one and the gamesmanship played a part.

Be angry at the ref, not their tactics.

Totally this

They can set up and play how they like - whatever anyone thinks we missed wide open goals - we also played with quality at times - we have our forwards to blame - IN cannot keep missing wide open goals

 

[Bell4]

They came to shithouse a 0-0 & got it. Fair fucks to ‘em. On another day, we win that by 2 or 3 goals & we’re purring about how good we were.

Again - totally this

Fkin sick of reading how wank we are

We aren’t and weren’t

 

[Bell4]

Got a result through Norwich style shit-housery , shocking refereeing & lack of quality / poor finishing .

Our finishing was the problem

Wide open goals

The rest gets sorted when we take one of the easy chances - we didn’t they shithouse we bleat

 

[pudseyblade]

Top shithousery from them. If we'd have done that 3 months ago in our then position against a team in our now position, we'd have loved that as an away support.

 

[ISZA ⚔️]

That Honeyman tackle… nearly sliced him in two. Horrible little fucker him.

 

[ATL Recs]

There seemed to be a lot of young hoodlums running around after the match looking for a fight. Was that because of lack of entertainment on the pitch?

As others have said, the goalkeepers time wasting was terrible. Each time they had a goal kick he feigned to take it short but then waved the defenders away. I don't think he took it short once!

He took his time holding the ball as well. I always count and and I estimate he held the ball for at least 12 seconds on several occasions. As I understand, it's supposed to be 6 seconds (but at this time of night I can't be bothered to check that). It's about time referees sorted them out

9 seconds I believe or it was

 

[mattbianco1]

The keeper got away with the very same ‘trick’ every single goal kick. It became so ridiculous that even he felt he needed to break it up with a bit of hide and seek with the man laying behind the advertising hoardings for a little while.

There should be a loophole in football banning orders that if you go onto the pitch to lamp GKs like that, you don't get banned.

 

[Grey Blade]

9 seconds I believe or it was

I looked up the rules this morning and it does appear that the rule is 6 seconds. I reckon that is repeatedly broken in just about every game!

"An indirect free kick is awarded if a goalkeeper, inside their penalty area, commits any of the following offences:

• controls the ball with the hand/arm for more than six seconds before releasing it
• touches the ball with the hand/arm after releasing it and before it has touched another player
• touches the ball with the hand/arm, unless the goalkeeper has clearly kicked or attempted to kick the ball to release it into play, after:
  
  • it has been deliberately kicked to the goalkeeper by a team-mate
  • receiving it directly from a throw-in taken by a team-mate"

 

[Bell4]

I looked up the rules this morning and it does appear that the rule is 6 seconds. I reckon that is repeatedly broken in just about every game!

"An indirect free kick is awarded if a goalkeeper, inside their penalty area, commits any of the following offences:

• controls the ball with the hand/arm for more than six seconds before releasing it
• touches the ball with the hand/arm after releasing it and before it has touched another player
• touches the ball with the hand/arm, unless the goalkeeper has clearly kicked or attempted to kick the ball to release it into play, after:
  
  • it has been deliberately kicked to the goalkeeper by a team-mate
  • receiving it directly from a throw-in taken by a team-mate"

The good thing is that you woke up this morning

 

[Tarqs]

That Honeyman tackle… nearly sliced him in two. Horrible little fucker him.

Baldock's challenge was far worse. Proper leg breaker.

 

[Billyblade]

I looked up the rules this morning and it does appear that the rule is 6 seconds. I reckon that is repeatedly broken in just about every game!

"An indirect free kick is awarded if a goalkeeper, inside their penalty area, commits any of the following offences:

• controls the ball with the hand/arm for more than six seconds before releasing it
• touches the ball with the hand/arm after releasing it and before it has touched another player
• touches the ball with the hand/arm, unless the goalkeeper has clearly kicked or attempted to kick the ball to release it into play, after:
  
  • it has been deliberately kicked to the goalkeeper by a team-mate
  • receiving it directly from a throw-in taken by a team-mate"

When that rule was first brought in it was rigidly enforced for the first couple of weeks.
It's been largely ignored since

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

If they did introduce an official time keeper, who stopped the clock every time the ball went dead, we’d still be sat there now and don’t forget, some people have got work in the morning!

There would have to be perhaps 35 minutes each way; and no added time of course. I would like to see them return to moving free-kicks forward if opponents don’t immediately move away from the ball; a time-limit on throw-ins from the moment the ball is received by the player; 10 seconds for the keeper to release the ball when he has it in his hands; and a fixed time for taking the goal-kick from when the ball is returned. I am quite happy watching patient build-up play; but fed up watching players standing with the ball taking for ever to re-start play. I see no reason for it to be part of the game.

 

[Trigger Blade]

I looked up the rules this morning and it does appear that the rule is 6 seconds. I reckon that is repeatedly broken in just about every game!

"An indirect free kick is awarded if a goalkeeper, inside their penalty area, commits any of the following offences:

• controls the ball with the hand/arm for more than six seconds before releasing it
• touches the ball with the hand/arm after releasing it and before it has touched another player
• touches the ball with the hand/arm, unless the goalkeeper has clearly kicked or attempted to kick the ball to release it into play, after:
  
  • it has been deliberately kicked to the goalkeeper by a team-mate
  • receiving it directly from a throw-in taken by a team-mate"

In injury time, one clearance by their keeper took 22 seconds. Sad, but I timed it

 

[Bladesman]

Not sure we can complain.

We haven't exactly been in the relegation places in the Shithousing League of late either.

Even tonight Baldock was involved Ina few bits of argy bargy, a few of their lads ended up being pushed into the hoardings and short of being given a whistle by the ref pretty sure both Gibbs-White and Norwood wanted to referee the game!

Our players got dragged into the argy bargy due to the shit officials not picking up the holding going on off the ball when any of our attackers were making runs. They held and blocked MGW a dozen times which their players should have been booked for.

 

[1889]

There would have to be perhaps 35 minutes each way; and no added time of course. I would like to see them return to moving free-kicks forward if opponents don’t immediately move away from the ball; a time-limit on throw-ins from the moment the ball is received by the player; 10 seconds for the keeper to release the ball when he has it in his hands; and a fixed time for taking the goal-kick from when the ball is returned. I am quite happy watching patient build-up play; but fed up watching players standing with the ball taking for ever to re-start play. I see no reason for it to be part of the game.

I agree, statistically during a 90 minute game the ball is only actually in play for a little less than 60 minutes, on average.

Makes you wonder why the need to rotate the squad really ?

 

[JackSUFC]

Fair play to them. You play to the ref and they had him figured out early on.
They came for a result and got one and the gamesmanship played a part.

Be angry at the ref, not their tactics.

Exactly this.

Teams near the bottom of the table turning up, time-wasting and being shithouses in general is a given. It’s part of the game so there’s no point being mad at it.

A soft touch ref who lets them get away with it all game, however…

 

[Bladesman]

I agree, statistically during a 90 minute game the ball is only actually in play for a little less than 60 minutes, on average.

Makes you wonder why the need to rotate the squad really ?

Which makes Moose not being able to complete a full match look even worse.

 

[bogo40]

There seemed to be a lot of young hoodlums running around after the match looking for a fight. Was that because of lack of entertainment on the pitch?

As others have said, the goalkeepers time wasting was terrible. Each time they had a goal kick he feigned to take it short but then waved the defenders away. I don't think he took it short once!

He took his time holding the ball as well. I always count and and I estimate he held the ball for at least 12 seconds on several occasions. As I understand, it's supposed to be 6 seconds (but at this time of night I can't be bothered to check that). It's about time referees sorted them out

Spot on with the 6 secs. Although it happens regularly, even our Wes does it. Refs just dont have the bottle to give a warning then a yellow. They should then go to the line and tell the manager that if it carries on he will give another yellow, and REDcard the keeper. But we all know refs havent got the bits to do what they should!!

 

[Deadly_D'Jaffo]

Cheating aside, their GK Ingram has impressed me in both fixtures.

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

I agree, statistically during a 90 minute game the ball is only actually in play for a little less than 60 minutes, on average.

Makes you wonder why the need to rotate the squad really ?

Our players got tired going to fetch the ball for them

 

[Panini]

It makes the game dull as fuck, and is very frustrating, but I can totally understand why every team does it. You can softly, but intentionally, kick the ball away after every foul or throw in (united included) and nothing ever gets done about it. It'd be nice to see it punished.

A huge bugbear of mine.

I'd like to see a rule where, once the whistle gone and the decision has gone against you, it's an automatic yellow card for touching the ball, pretending touch the ball, standing over the ball or otherwise getting in the way of play.

It's very easy to time waste and it's no surprise most games lose at least 30 mins to it.

 

[Broomhall Blade]

Unless they introduce a clock which is stopped when the ball is dead, I think they will have to instruct referees to do just that. Could do with a 15-minute sinbin for 2 time-wasting yellow cards. And a full red card for a second offence in the last 15 minutes, with suspension to follow. We don’t pay to watch a goalkeeper put the ball down, then wait til he has a drink, then moves the ball again before kicking it eventually. In the first half!

There is one simple solution, we score thats the only thing that stops it dead in its tracks. We had plenty of chances last night.
It always makes me chuckle when teams time waste and we score then suddenly the opposition Goalkeeper because Usain Bolt.

 

[ISZA ⚔️]

Baldock's challenge was far worse. Proper leg breaker.

Was behind that so didn’t see it properly. We definitely got sucked in to their tactics last night and allowed the frustration of that to affect us.

 

[Addison]

I think the first stoppage was a sign of who much they could push their luck. 2nd stoppage was for a genuine injury but after that for Hull it really was a question of how much can we get away with now.

The ref hadn't got the bottle to give a big decision but he gave every small decision to them throughout the match.

EFL fans are universal in their condemnation of Oliver Langfords incompetence. It was all about him last night not giving the big decisions. Hopefully we won't have him again this season.

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

There is one simple solution, we score thats the only thing that stops it dead in its tracks. We had plenty of chances last night.
It always makes me chuckle when teams time waste and we score then suddenly the opposition Goalkeeper because Usain Bolt.

And as yesterday evening fades into the pest, I have to confess that when the likes of Henderson fell to the ground clutching the ball for 30 seconds and we were 1-0 up, I was cheering him on… Which make it all the more important to have better rules and firm referees in place.

 

[1973Blade]

Am I a crazed conspiracy theorist for wondering if their players had sachets of tomato ketchup in the first half so that they could look like they were bleeding?!

 

[John Street West Terrace]

EFL fans are universal in their condemnation of Oliver Langfords incompetence. It was all about him last night not giving the big decisions. Hopefully we won't have him again this season.

Inept & an arrogant twat .. dreadful referee

 

[Micky Narker]

Blame the ref not the Ull players, if we get promoted I want us shithousing week in week out.

 

[cooperblade]

I looked up the rules this morning and it does appear that the rule is 6 seconds. I reckon that is repeatedly broken in just about every game!

"An indirect free kick is awarded if a goalkeeper, inside their penalty area, commits any of the following offences:

• controls the ball with the hand/arm for more than six seconds before releasing it
• touches the ball with the hand/arm after releasing it and before it has touched another player
• touches the ball with the hand/arm, unless the goalkeeper has clearly kicked or attempted to kick the ball to release it into play, after:
  
  • it has been deliberately kicked to the goalkeeper by a team-mate
  • receiving it directly from a throw-in taken by a team-mate"

I've always thought that the crowd should all count the seconds out. Surely the ref can't just ignore it if there's 20,000 people making it clear how long it's taking?

 

[Grey Blade]

I've always thought that the crowd should all count the seconds out. Surely the ref can't just ignore it if there's 20,000 people making it clear how long it's taking?

That's what I keep saying to my mates but no one ever joins in.