Gone Elsewhere Djed Spence

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Caught the eye when I saw him play earlier in the season.

How the turn tables - only a couple of years ago it was us having our young prospects taken by the 'big clubs'!
 
Just the sort of athletic, physical presence that we're lacking at the moment. We couldn't deal with him at all last night.
 
He was alright.
I wouldn't say we couldn't cope with him as they only created two chances, and one of them came from the other wing.
And let's not forget, he was against Enda.
 
Stevens is an embarrassment to the shirt but this guy is bang average, against RND he wouldn't have had much luck
 
He was athletic, apart from one moment when he got past a weak tackle, he had shit all end product.
 
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Him getting past three of our players on that side created the havoc before their equaliser.
That passage of play looked embarrasing for us when I watched it live. I haven't re-watched it but it looked astonishing that none of our 3 players could get a meaningful tackle or block in, although maybe I should give the attacker a bit more credit...
 

I think you’ve overrating RND a fair bit.

when someone reminds me of RNDs defending

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I’m really not sure. Stevens hasn’t been good, but I actually think he’s still better than RND.
I think that's unfair personally. Stevens is in his 30s. He has 0 ceiling for improvement. If anything he's regressed. He's not been shit for a bit.. he's been shit for the past two years.. I think we need to accept it's not a blip. I'd much rather RND play as he's younger (plays for the Welsh set up) and has a massive ceiling to improve.
 
I think that's unfair personally. Stevens is in his 30s. He has 0 ceiling for improvement. If anything he's regressed. He's not been shit for a bit.. he's been shit for the past two years.. I think we need to accept it's not a blip. I'd much rather RND play as he's younger (plays for the Welsh set up) and has a massive ceiling to improve.

I think labelling him ‘shit’ is a bit harsh personally. Yes, he’s not been great and has recently been well below his previous standards but I can’t imagine it’s easy being asked to play through a double hernia.
 
Jesus Christ, the stink of average ordinariness never changes
 
I’m really not sure. Stevens hasn’t been good, but I actually think he’s still better than RND.
RND did very little wrong. Had some poor moments, but also many games where he was fairly solid. Stevens has been abysmal since March 2020.
 
I think labelling him ‘shit’ is a bit harsh personally. Yes, he’s not been great and has recently been well below his previous standards but I can’t imagine it’s easy being asked to play through a double hernia.
I don't really. He's been an absolute liability.
 
Past few games, past two years. He's been dogger regardless of a timeframe.

Great analysis.

I’m not arguing against the suggestion he’s been poor, I’m saying there are mitigating circumstances. You don’t seem to think that playing through a double hernia is something that could potentially have a negative effect on a players performance
 
I have a very close source to Djed and there has never been any approaches from us for him. He didn’t get on with Warnock. He wants to stay at Forest on loan. Wilder was at the Forest game yesterday and wants Djed to return to Middlesbrough in January. Unfortunately for Middlesbrough he’s sold up and doesn’t want to stop up there. He’s currently linked to two premier league teams.
 

Was well marshalled by Antonee Robinson of Fulham when he was subbed on there by Warnock at a game I attended on opening weekend.
 

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