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I have often wondered if the fact that that game was shown on TV was a big factor in the career of John Hope. His career at the Lane started well, but his confidence and the crowd’s confidence in him never seemed to recover. He also became the butt of jokes from our ‘friends’ in S6, which is never a good sign for a keeper.
well they had nowt else to crow about hodgy at that time but i agree dont think john hope was ever the same keeper after that game mind we had a good un coming through at that time tom mcallister pity marsh ruined his career
 

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Derby 3 (Hector, Hinton 2 (2 pens)) Blades 0

I had forgotten about my "strop" just after finding out the result at Upton Park three days earlier until I had discovered my dad telling his mates that I was thinking about supporting another team. Graham Beresford and Nip Hague who travelled with us to Derby in my dad's car were giving me a bit of stick about it! They looked at me and shook their heads as if I had committed a crime!

My dad and I had got into the upper stand behind the goal that the Blades attacked in the 1st half. The tickets we were given were for single seats a few rows apart. My dad tried to persuade quite a few to give up their seat and use my (or my dad's) seat number but all refused! I had to sit between two strangers whilst my dad was sat a few rows behind me. The one that sat next to my left was a pipe smoker and obviously a vocal Derby fan. I felt miserable throughout the match as Derby banged in three goals. Since then , for a long time I have disliked Derby except when they played in the 1972-73 and 1975-76 European Cup.

I had missed what metalblade had described below. I asked my Uncle Ronnie about it a few years ago, he confirmed that the story was true although he had missed the incident as he was in the pub at the time but found out when a few told him about it when he got into the ground

I always remember in the early 70's at the baseball ground Sir Brian was trying to do a TV interview or it could have been a manager of the month presentation in front of the players tunnel, the trouble was around 500 -1000 Unitedites were in the ground early and on the Pop side making a lot of noise singing songs that were definitely not fit to be heard on Football Focus or MOTD and generally goading and fighting with the Police. After a few minutes Brian dressed in his best suit ran over and jumped in with the Unitedites marching into the centre of the mob, well all the bollocks stopped and it all went quiet as Brian asked everyone for five minutes quiet while he did the TV interview. Strangely there was hardly a sound until the TV work was done and Brian turned to the crowd and waved a thank you.


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20/11/1971

Derby 3 (Hector, Hinton 2 (2 pens)) Blades 0

I had forgotten about my "strop" just after finding out the result at Upton Park three days earlier until I had discovered my dad telling his mates that I was thinking about supporting another team. Graham Beresford and Nip Hague who travelled with us to Derby in my dad's car were giving me a bit of stick about it! They looked at me and shook their heads as if I had committed a crime!

My dad and I had got into the upper stand behind the goal that the Blades attacked in the 1st half. The tickets we were given were for single seats a few rows apart. My dad tried to persuade quite a few to give up their seat and use my (or my dad's) seat number but all refused! I had to sit between two strangers whilst my dad was sat a few rows behind me. The one that sat next to my left was a pipe smoker and obviously a vocal Derby fan. I felt miserable throughout the match as Derby banged in three goals. Since then , for a long time I have disliked Derby except when they played in the 1972-73 and 1975-76 European Cup.

I had missed what metalblade had described below. I asked my Uncle Ronnie about it a few years ago, he confirmed that the story was true although he had missed the incident as he was in the pub at the time but found out when a few told him about it when he got into the ground




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oh dear here it is another miserable afternoon at the baseball ground we were behind the goal where hinton got his 2nd penalty think most blades were on the pop side as usual strange ground the pitch was above the terracing if you were low down and the pitch was always a bog went there 3 times and never saw us score a goal lol horrible area round the ground as well
 

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oh dear here it is another miserable afternoon at the baseball ground we were behind the goal where hinton got his 2nd penalty think most blades were on the pop side as usual strange ground the pitch was above the terracing if you were low down and the pitch was always a bog went there 3 times and never saw us score a goal lol horrible area round the ground as well
Exactly Bert's memories as well.
Well beaten yet again. Bert had to wait a long time to see us score there.
Brian Deane header broke Bert's duck.
 

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Exactly Bert's memories as well.
Well beaten yet again. Bert had to wait a long time to see us score there.
Brian Deane header broke Bert's duck.
TC in October 1972 and Woodward in April 1974 and December 1975
 
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Blades 7 (Woodward 4 (1 pen), Reece, Badger, Dearden) Ipswich 0

Up to that day, the highest number of goals I saw us score was 5 against Blackburn and Cardiff in March and April 1971 also I had never seen a Blade score a hat trick. I had not expected us to score as many as 7 in a first division match.

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I seem to recall that Ipswich looked dangerous in the early stages of the match and still remember ex-Blade Mick Hill miskicking a shot inside the penalty box at the Lane End.

Then came the 4 goals from the 9th minute to half time

The first was a firm ground shot from Woody

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Geoff Salmons then set off a solo run on the left before being brought down inside the penalty box, a definite penalty , it was. Woody then sent Sivell the wrong way with the penalty.

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Gil Reece headed in a Woody corner to put us 3 up.

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Just before half time Len Badger blasted a shot about 35 yards away on the right, Sivell seemed to have the shot covered, he seemed to try to push the ball over the bar but helped it to inside the top of the net. 4-0!

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After half time Bill Dearden broke through the offside trap and hit the 5th beating Sivell in an one to one situation.

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The 6th goal was the best of all, Woody hitting a left footed rising shot to the top of the net past a diving Sivell.

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And the joy, the first time I saw a Blade clinching a hat trick.

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We hadnt finished scoring when Sivell failed to hold a low cross by Salmons from the left.

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Woody toasting his achievement in the dressing room after the match.

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I remembered watching all the 7 goals on YTV highlights in the next day. For years I hadnt realised that YTV televised the 1st half in colour (I had B & W tv at the time) and the 2nd half in black and white. I was very disappointed that the YTV video of our goals between 1968 and 1981 (produced in 1993) didnt include any of the 7 goals of the Ipswich match. I wrote to YTV asking for their reasons of the exclusion. They wrote back explaining that they thought the picture quality of the match wasnt good enough to be in the video so they didnt include any of the 7 goals. Then I remembered a Saints and Greavsie programme a few years earlier showing Woody's 3rd and 4th goal in that match. Watch from 16 mins 7 secs in below video


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Scores, scorers and line ups of matches that day are in the below link.


From the programme

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27/11/1971

Blades 7 (Woodward 4 (1 pen), Reece, Badger, Dearden) Ipswich 0

Up to that day, the highest number of goals I saw us score was 5 against Blackburn and Cardiff in March and April 1971 also I had never seen a Blade score a hat trick. I had not expected us to score as many as 7 in a first division match.

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I seem to recall that Ipswich looked dangerous in the early stages of the match and still remember ex-Blade Mick Hill miskicking a shot inside the penalty box at the Lane End.

Then came the 4 goals from the 9th minute to half time

The first was a firm ground shot from Woody

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Geoff Salmons then set off a solo run on the left before being brought down inside the penalty box, a definite penalty , it was. Woody then sent Sivell the wrong way with the penalty.

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Gil Reece headed in a Woody corner to put us 3 up.

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Just before half time Len Badger blasted a shot about 35 yards away on the right, Sivell seemed to have the shot covered, he seemed to try to push the ball over the bar but helped it to inside the top of the net. 4-0!

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After half time Bill Dearden broke through the offside trap and hit the 5th beating Sivell in an one to one situation.

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The 6th goal was the best of all, Woody hitting a left footed rising shot to the top of the net past a diving Sivell.

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And the joy, the first time I saw a Blade clinching a hat trick.

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We hadnt finished scoring when Sivell failed to hold a low cross by Salmons from the left.

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Woody toasting his achievement in the dressing room after the match.

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I remembered watching all the 7 goals on YTV highlights in the next day. For years I hadnt realised that YTV televised the 1st half in colour (I had B & W tv at the time) and the 2nd half in black and white. I was very disappointed that the YTV video of our goals between 1968 and 1981 (produced in 1993) didnt include any of the 7 goals of the Ipswich match. I wrote to YTV asking for their reasons of the exclusion. They wrote back explaining that they thought the picture quality of the match wasnt good enough to be in the video so they didnt include any of the 7 goals. Then I remembered a Saints and Greavsie programme a few years earlier showing Woody's 3rd and 4th goal in that match. Watch from 16 mins 7 secs in below video


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Scores, scorers and line ups of matches that day are in the below link.


From the programme

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I sat with Len Badger,god bless him, at a lot of matches and every time he talked about his goal thst day it became from further out 😃.
Brilliant game,probably still in my top 5 of all time!
 

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27/11/1971

Blades 7 (Woodward 4 (1 pen), Reece, Badger, Dearden) Ipswich 0

Up to that day, the highest number of goals I saw us score was 5 against Blackburn and Cardiff in March and April 1971 also I had never seen a Blade score a hat trick. I had not expected us to score as many as 7 in a first division match.

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I seem to recall that Ipswich looked dangerous in the early stages of the match and still remember ex-Blade Mick Hill miskicking a shot inside the penalty box at the Lane End.

Then came the 4 goals from the 9th minute to half time

The first was a firm ground shot from Woody

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Geoff Salmons then set off a solo run on the left before being brought down inside the penalty box, a definite penalty , it was. Woody then sent Sivell the wrong way with the penalty.

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Gil Reece headed in a Woody corner to put us 3 up.

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Just before half time Len Badger blasted a shot about 35 yards away on the right, Sivell seemed to have the shot covered, he seemed to try to push the ball over the bar but helped it to inside the top of the net. 4-0!

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After half time Bill Dearden broke through the offside trap and hit the 5th beating Sivell in an one to one situation.

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The 6th goal was the best of all, Woody hitting a left footed rising shot to the top of the net past a diving Sivell.

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And the joy, the first time I saw a Blade clinching a hat trick.

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We hadnt finished scoring when Sivell failed to hold a low cross by Salmons from the left.

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Woody toasting his achievement in the dressing room after the match.

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I remembered watching all the 7 goals on YTV highlights in the next day. For years I hadnt realised that YTV televised the 1st half in colour (I had B & W tv at the time) and the 2nd half in black and white. I was very disappointed that the YTV video of our goals between 1968 and 1981 (produced in 1993) didnt include any of the 7 goals of the Ipswich match. I wrote to YTV asking for their reasons of the exclusion. They wrote back explaining that they thought the picture quality of the match wasnt good enough to be in the video so they didnt include any of the 7 goals. Then I remembered a Saints and Greavsie programme a few years earlier showing Woody's 3rd and 4th goal in that match. Watch from 16 mins 7 secs in below video


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Scores, scorers and line ups of matches that day are in the below link.


From the programme

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You beat me to seeing Utd scoring 7, as I was playing local football on Saturday afternoons at the time. Had to settle for the TV highlights, and then wait until the Northampton match a decade later for my first 7. No problem seeing hat-tricks, though, with Pace and Russell in the late 50s/early60s.
 

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Woodward, 20 yarder with his left foot.

Our team these days are like 11 Long John Silvers.
 

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Would Woody's hat-trick (well hat-trick +1) against Ipswich be the last one in a league match from a United player for nearly 10 years?

As a kid I started going to games with my dad from about 1975 on wards. At the time I'm sure none of our players got a hat-tick until Edwards in the fourth division but I do remember my dad mentioning Woody's 4 goals v Ipswich.
 

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Would Woody's hat-trick (well hat-trick +1) against Ipswich be the last one in a league match from a United player for nearly 10 years?

As a kid I started going to games with my dad from about 1975 on wards. At the time I'm sure none of our players got a hat-tick until Edwards in the fourth division but I do remember my dad mentioning Woody's 4 goals v Ipswich.
Dearden v Hammers in February 1972 and Woody v Saints in December 1973. For Cup Guthrie at Halifax.

Your first must be Edwards v Northampton
 

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