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The likelihood is CW leaving will be a disaster. He was LMA manager of the year and runner-up in consecuive seasons. That's hard to replace.

But we don't know, and probably won't ever find out the whole truth of why he has gone.

Now the board needs to be given a chance to repair the damage of the past week.

They need to prove 1) they are committed to the success of the club; and 2) they appreciate the importance of a "united" team, club and fanbase.

What actions could be taken to indicate the rot is not setting in? Some suggestions below.

1. PA or Bettis make it clear what the structure of the management team will be, their roles and responsibilities. They explain why they think this will be better than the existing CWAK model.
2. No fire-sale of the core group, particularly younger players. One or two sales are understandable, but fees must be worthwhile.
3. A leader (head coach, manager, whatever, as long as its clear) is recruited bringing a decent track record of success at an appropriate level and proven man management skills.
4. Supporters are encouraged back with competitive ticket prices (STs and POTG) - Covid has proven the value of a big, supportive home crowd to SUFC.
5. Tangible progress is made on at least one aspect of the club's infrastructure - e.g. shirecliffe upgrade, better kop facilities, pillar removal etc.

Hopefully PA, Bettis and Co can show that what has happened this last week was a regretted mistake, and not a symptom of sustained boardoom incompetence.
 

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"They explain why they think this will be better than the existing CWAK model."
If they follow that route they are setting themselves up for a fall.
As you say "we don't know, and probably won't ever find out the whole truth of why he has gone." which is a crying shame considering what is flying around on this site.
CW has gone.
We need to move on.
 

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They'll probably pass number 4. The rest they will fail miserably.
 

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We’ve got 3 years (?) of parachute payments. Whilst we’ve got these we need to strap on our big boy pants and fund a promotion push.
That ^. I posted a lot a couple of seasons ago about the championship and its lack of sustainability, showing that to compete at the top, most owners were spending around £10m per year of their own money. The Ipswich owner was complaining that he was losing around £6m a year just to finish mid table. So, he tried something different.
That’s what we’re looking at in three years if we don’t go up. We have an owner who doesn’t appear to have much money of his own to chuck into the bottomless pit that is the championship. So he knows full well that we need to focus on getting back ASAP.

Now my opinion, and that of many others, is that he’s thrown the baby out with the bath water, that he’d have been better off keeping Wilder, accepting what Wilder wanted and letting him get on with getting us promoted. That doesn’t mean I’m right.

He will be also thinking that if Wilder failed next season, if it was a re-run of Bassett’s season following relegation, he’s lost a year and has to start his rebuild with only one year of big parachute payments and one of reduced. That gives him very little room to get it right, one bad managerial appointment and we could be screwed. Look at Bournemouth with (ironically) Tindall. Dumb appointment, KM style. But they’ve still got the rest of this season and next to get it right. Imagine if they’d kept Howe, not gone up, sacked him at the end of this season and appointed Tindall. They’d be shitting it now and looking at who they’ll have to sell to balance the books.

There isn’t a right or wrong answer to situations like this.
 

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Long time reader moved to post by the events of the weekend

The likelihood is CW leaving will be a disaster. He was LMA manager of the year and runner-up in consecuive seasons. That's hard to replace.

But we don't know, and probably won't ever find out the whole truth of why he has gone.

Now the board needs to be given a chance to repair the damage of the past week.

They need to prove 1) they are committed to the success of the club; and 2) they appreciate the importance of a "united" team, club and fanbase.

What actions could be taken to indicate the rot is not setting in? Some suggestions below.

1. PA or Bettis make it clear what the structure of the management team will be, their roles and responsibilities. They explain why they think this will be better than the existing CWAK model.
2. No fire-sale of the core group, particularly younger players. One or two sales are understandable, but fees must be worthwhile.
3. A leader (head coach, manager, whatever, as long as its clear) is recruited bringing a decent track record of success at an appropriate level and proven man management skills.
4. Supporters are encouraged back with competitive ticket prices (STs and POTG) - Covid has proven the value of a big, supportive home crowd to SUFC.
5. Tangible progress is made on at least one aspect of the club's infrastructure - e.g. shirecliffe upgrade, better kop facilities, pillar removal etc.

Hopefully PA, Bettis and Co can show that what has happened this last week was a regretted mistake, and not a symptom of sustained boardoom incompetence.
Agree totally.

Whichever you play it now some fans aren't going to be happy but what you've set out is the very best we can hope for before August imho.
 

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Where does Van Winckel (the nemesis) sit in the future strategy?
 

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That ^. I posted a lot a couple of seasons ago about the championship and its lack of sustainability, showing that to compete at the top, most owners were spending around £10m per year of their own money. The Ipswich owner was complaining that he was losing around £6m a year just to finish mid table. So, he tried something different.
That’s what we’re looking at in three years if we don’t go up. We have an owner who doesn’t appear to have much money of his own to chuck into the bottomless pit that is the championship. So he knows full well that we need to focus on getting back ASAP.

Now my opinion, and that of many others, is that he’s thrown the baby out with the bath water, that he’d have been better off keeping Wilder, accepting what Wilder wanted and letting him get on with getting us promoted. That doesn’t mean I’m right.

He will be also thinking that if Wilder failed next season, if it was a re-run of Bassett’s season following relegation, he’s lost a year and has to start his rebuild with only one year of big parachute payments and one of reduced. That gives him very little room to get it right, one bad managerial appointment and we could be screwed. Look at Bournemouth with (ironically) Tindall. Dumb appointment, KM style. But they’ve still got the rest of this season and next to get it right. Imagine if they’d kept Howe, not gone up, sacked him at the end of this season and appointed Tindall. They’d be shitting it now and looking at who they’ll have to sell to balance the books.

There isn’t a right or wrong answer to situations like this.
I don’t think that the Championship is like that any more.
There are many clubs struggling to keep going and more careful controls on spending will come in.
The top half a dozen with parachute payments ( but only for a short time before they go) or monied owners will still try to be silly, but the quality of the youngsters coming through both for the team and the sell on fees, will be crucial
 

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I'd just like to see them appoint somebody that wasn't a friend or family member of the owner. That'd be a start.
 

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I was hoping for more of,

1, beep test (told princy could do with shifting some girth off them titties)
2, Maths test, how much money did Wilder spunk compared to what he brought in
3, Driving test, (Lambos to Mcdonlads and back in 5 minutes or under)
4, Stress test...............wait til the grounds at capacity and there’s a car park full wiaving footwear
5,Popularity ConTEST 😂, can they win over the lane faithful by reducing season tickets and putting a few more urinal kegs in bogs on kop
 

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I'm not sure the board deserves anything to be honest. Alas, we have no choice....
 

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That ^. I posted a lot a couple of seasons ago about the championship and its lack of sustainability, showing that to compete at the top, most owners were spending around £10m per year of their own money. The Ipswich owner was complaining that he was losing around £6m a year just to finish mid table. So, he tried something different.
That’s what we’re looking at in three years if we don’t go up. We have an owner who doesn’t appear to have much money of his own to chuck into the bottomless pit that is the championship. So he knows full well that we need to focus on getting back ASAP.

Now my opinion, and that of many others, is that he’s thrown the baby out with the bath water, that he’d have been better off keeping Wilder, accepting what Wilder wanted and letting him get on with getting us promoted. That doesn’t mean I’m right.

He will be also thinking that if Wilder failed next season, if it was a re-run of Bassett’s season following relegation, he’s lost a year and has to start his rebuild with only one year of big parachute payments and one of reduced. That gives him very little room to get it right, one bad managerial appointment and we could be screwed. Look at Bournemouth with (ironically) Tindall. Dumb appointment, KM style. But they’ve still got the rest of this season and next to get it right. Imagine if they’d kept Howe, not gone up, sacked him at the end of this season and appointed Tindall. They’d be shitting it now and looking at who they’ll have to sell to balance the books.

There isn’t a right or wrong answer to situations like this.

100% agree.

We have a major financial advantage over 21 of the 24 Championship clubs for the next few seasons. If we don’t have personal wealth to fall back on, we MUST invest the parachute payments on the team and try and get back up before they run out. If that means spending then so be it, because if they run out and we’re in the Championship we are back rummaging in the bargain bin again with everyone else. And we will be down in League One before we know it.

We’ve got to capitalise on our advantage now because it runs out soon.

Over to you Prince and the Board.
 
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100% agree.

We have a major financial advantage over 21 of the 24 Championship clubs for the next few seasons.

This is the problem - we don’t. If parachute payments are for three years that means that, next season, the teams with PL money still coming in will be:

Fulham (or Newcastle / Brighton) (who have more accumulated PL money than us)
West Brom (x2 lots)
Bournemouth (after 5+ seasons)
Watford (after 5+ seasons)
Sheffield United
Cardiff

Thats six at least, and they will all have more dish than us). You could even argue that Stoke and Swansea might have some left over too. Plus one or two other clubs with rich owners wanting a push next year. Then throw in a couple of random overachievers (us two years ago, Barnsley this year). The Championship is a bastard of a league to get out of.
 

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If the Blades are the top club in United World why have they a building where the roof collapses. As well as 1 and a half pitches to practice on.
 
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Long time reader moved to post by the events of the weekend

The likelihood is CW leaving will be a disaster. He was LMA manager of the year and runner-up in consecuive seasons. That's hard to replace.

But we don't know, and probably won't ever find out the whole truth of why he has gone.

Now the board needs to be given a chance to repair the damage of the past week.

They need to prove 1) they are committed to the success of the club; and 2) they appreciate the importance of a "united" team, club and fanbase.

What actions could be taken to indicate the rot is not setting in? Some suggestions below.

1. PA or Bettis make it clear what the structure of the management team will be, their roles and responsibilities. They explain why they think this will be better than the existing CWAK model.
2. No fire-sale of the core group, particularly younger players. One or two sales are understandable, but fees must be worthwhile.
3. A leader (head coach, manager, whatever, as long as its clear) is recruited bringing a decent track record of success at an appropriate level and proven man management skills.
4. Supporters are encouraged back with competitive ticket prices (STs and POTG) - Covid has proven the value of a big, supportive home crowd to SUFC.
5. Tangible progress is made on at least one aspect of the club's infrastructure - e.g. shirecliffe upgrade, better kop facilities, pillar removal etc.

Hopefully PA, Bettis and Co can show that what has happened this last week was a regretted mistake, and not a symptom of sustained boardoom incompetence.
You saying this and it's admirable but you say none of us know the truth, well Simon Jordan from the facts available spoke the truth.
Chris has had a terrible season and is lucky not to have been sacked yet he thought it was ok to slander the board for weeks
 

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If the Blades are the top club in United World why have they a building where the roof collapses. As well as 1 and a half pitches to practice on.

Collapsed? Thought it was more than a leak. I heard the Bin Ladens flew a plane into it because they hadn’t been paid...........
 

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Blades and the Saints both get a 20k fine for not controlling players at the end of their match.
Sheesh we will never get that Shirecliffe roof fixed!
 

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