Players from Relegated teams

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Newcastle - Dubravka/Scharr
Brighton - Gross
Bournemouth - Lewis Cook/Ramsdale
Aston Villa - Heaton/Targett
West Ham - Fabianski/Soucek/Bowen
Watford - Deeney/Foster/Deulofeu/Doucoure (probably out of reach)
Norwich - Cantwell/Buendia (both probably out of reach)
 

RMBlade said:
Newcastle - Dubravka/Scharr
Brighton - Gross
Bournemouth - Lewis Cook/Ramsdale
Aston Villa - Heaton/Targett
West Ham - Fabianski/Soucek/Bowen
Watford - Deeney/Foster/Deulofeu/Doucoure (probably out of reach)
Norwich - Cantwell/Buendia (both probably out of reach)
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Would have to disagree with Bowen. Definitely not a 20 million pound player - Fits that mould of "too good for the championship, not good enough for the premiership" though he's young and could improve, i don't think he'd be gettable for less that 30 especially with him only just joining them.
 
bongleblade said:
Watford - Deeney (would he move for epl football in the event of relegation?)
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Deeney’s always struck me as someone that might fit our system well, but I wonder if he has the right personality to fit the club. There was a behind the scenes thing on Football Focus with him either at the start of the season or last season where he mentioned he didn’t socialise with any of the other Watford players at all, he’d only see them at work and that’s it. That’s probably not uncommon, but I thought it was a bit odd for the club captain to say tbh.

So, decent player, possibly a bit of a weirdo.
 
SouthEssexBlade said:
I'm always amused at the football supporter logic.

Team gets relegated, the manager is useless and needs sacking and we wouldn't want him anywhere near our club.

But the under performing players who actually made the biggest contribution to the failure are prized and coveted.
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Absolute bullshit comment. Just because a TEAM is doing shite doesn't mean their isnt a bad player in the side? Most of the players mentioned are wanted by top clubs i.e Grealish, Aarons, Doucoure and Cantwell to name a few.

When we went down with Warnock we sold Jagielka to a top club in Everton, was he shit for us? Oh and stayed there for over 10 years being made captain.

You cant write anything on this board without being shot down by a blade.
 
LoughboroBlade said:
Deeney’s always struck me as someone that might fit our system well, but I wonder if he has the right personality to fit the club. There was a behind the scenes thing on Football Focus with him either at the start of the season or last season where he mentioned he didn’t socialise with any of the other Watford players at all, he’d only see them at work and that’s it. That’s probably not uncommon, but I thought it was a bit odd for the club captain to say tbh.

So, decent player, possibly a bit of a weirdo.
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Thinking about it though lots of people have the same mind set, when I worked there were some I worked with but wouldn't be seen dead out with them. If he did come to United I honestly think that CW would have a chat as he doesn't want "big time charlies" at United.
 
BladeTillIDie said:
Absolute bullshit comment. Just because a TEAM is doing shite doesn't mean their isnt a bad player in the side? Most of the players mentioned are wanted by top clubs i.e Grealish, Aarons, Doucoure and Cantwell to name a few.

When we went down with Warnock we sold Jagielka to a top club in Everton, was he shit for us? Oh and stayed there for over 10 years being made captain.
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I'm not saying there aren't players to be acquired, who may or may not do well in other teams. No doubt extensive scouting and analysis has been completed. Howeve

Forget the 4 you mentioned, they will disappear out of our range (Cantwell maybe an exception, but I doubt it). As for the rest, not really sure what they bring and how much that taint of relegation lingers with them. And the bigger the club and budget that is relegated (Villa and West Ham) the more questions need to be asked about the players, other than 'he's a quality player'.

Players not performing cause relegations. If I was a Hammers fan I'd be furious about that performance at Anfield last night. Where's that been all season?

I'm not saying don't sign any, I'm saying very careful scrutiny and diligence needs applying before bringing them in.
 
SouthEssexBlade said:
I'm not saying there aren't players to be acquired, who may or may not do well in other teams. No doubt extensive scouting and analysis has been completed. Howeve

Forget the 4 you mentioned, they will disappear out of our range (Cantwell maybe an exception, but I doubt it). As for the rest, not really sure what they bring and how much that taint of relegation lingers with them. And the bigger the club and budget that is relegated (Villa and West Ham) the more questions need to be asked about the players, other than 'he's a quality player'.

Players not performing cause relegations. If I was a Hammers fan I'd be furious about that performance at Anfield last night. Where's that been all season?

I'm not saying don't sign any, I'm saying very careful scrutiny and diligence needs applying before bringing them in.
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Good post, and my thoughts about Cantwell are that he's still not proven and will need another year or two before justifying a big money valuation.

Spot on about WHAM, far too inconsistent. I wonder if they've had the same side playing for more than 2 games on the trot? Do like Snodgrass though.

I still think Wilder's approach to recruitment makes sense. Often young, hungry to do well, good energy levels (sorry McB, you might be the exception to the rule), with just the occasional experienced head brought in to add balance. No idea about Henderson, hope we can do a deal, but it's MU's infrastructure we're up against so can't see us out-bidding that. All depends on how MU view Henderson, and whether they feel another, this time lengthy, spell at the Blades will benefit him and us?

So far it's been a brilliant season, and finishing anywhere above 10th is a stonker of a season for me.
 
Danetheblade said:
Would have to disagree with Bowen. Definitely not a 20 million pound player - Fits that mould of "too good for the championship, not good enough for the premiership" though he's young and could improve, i don't think he'd be gettable for less that 30 especially with him only just joining them.
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He has hardly been given a chance in the Premier League yet.
 
I'd be very surprised to see us splash much cash this summer. Think Berge was our big summer signing but we needed to get in early to guarantee his signature. Think Henderson will come back on loan for one last season. Snodgrass would be a good squad addition.
 
Danetheblade said:
Would have to disagree with Bowen. Definitely not a 20 million pound player - Fits that mould of "too good for the championship, not good enough for the premiership" though he's young and could improve, i don't think he'd be gettable for less that 30 especially with him only just joining them.
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Feels like he will end up a Robert Earnshaw type (happy to be proved wrong by any player tho)
 
Stannington Blade said:
Feels like he will end up a Robert Earnshaw type (happy to be proved wrong by any player tho)
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Ultimate dream for me would be Belotti.. Never going to happen - though most said that about Berge... Realistically, I'd be happy with Watkins (providing brentford don't come up, and he's less than 25 million) Pukki isn't for me imo, age is the wrong side, and he'll only deteriorate going forward imo.
 

Players I would poach now that I have seen 'em all

Brighton - Dan Burn (played full back so would be good cover for Bash if we finally got him after all these years).
Bournemouth - Ramsdale
Aston Villa - McGinn
West Ham - Snodgrass (at least he would stop scoring against us, good sub late on)
Watford - Foster (Ramsdale and Foster would make a great depth in squad along with Verrips after Hendo is gone)
Norwich - Cantwell (Unlikely but we did get Berge so who knows)
 
If Bournemouth go down. Finally get Callum Wilson. I'd also take Ramsdale back.

McGinn from Villa

Cantwell or Aarons from Norwich maybe Pukki

I would take Antonio and Snodgrass from West Ham

Deeney and Foster from Watford
 
Danetheblade said:
Would have to disagree with Bowen. Definitely not a 20 million pound player - Fits that mould of "too good for the championship, not good enough for the premiership" though he's young and could improve, i don't think he'd be gettable for less that 30 especially with him only just joining them.
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He's not a £20m player, but we wouldn't get him for less than £30m ? But he's not good enough for the premier League ?
Is it me ?
 
blademark said:
He's not a £20m player, but we wouldn't get him for less than £30m ? But he's not good enough for the premier League ?
Is it me ?
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He's not worth 20 million, West Ham wouldn't allow him to leave for what they paid/would want to get some form of profit, the last parts a pretty simple statement, so I'll not go over that again. (I think it might just be you)
 
Danetheblade said:
He's not worth 20 million, West Ham wouldn't allow him to leave for what they paid/would want to get some form of profit, the last parts a pretty simple statement, so I'll not go over that again. (I think it might just be you)
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Well, and West Ham, who like him quite a lot.
As it happens I think he will be a big star in the prem, and will become Wham's best player before long. We will see.
 
Danetheblade said:
He's not worth 20 million, West Ham wouldn't allow him to leave for what they paid/would want to get some form of profit, the last parts a pretty simple statement, so I'll not go over that again. (I think it might just be you)
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He is worth £20m because that's what West Ham paid for him.

I don't know what makes you think Bowen isn't good enough for the Premier League, he has played 2 games (I think) in the Prem, so no solid evidence to prove he isn't there.

Last 3 years Championship stats
Year, Appearances, goal contributions
19/20 - 29, 22
18/19 - 46, 26
17/18 - 42, 16

This whilst play right wing for a below league average Hull City.

Compare that with Ollie Watkins who a large amount of people on here would like to see us sign and would cost around £20m as well.

19/20 - 34, 25
18/19 - 41, 18
17/18 - 45, 15

Bowen is also a year younger.
 
blademark said:
Well, and West Ham, who like him quite a lot.
As it happens I think he will be a big star in the prem, and will become Wham's best player before long. We will see.
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I agree with most of that but I think West Ham will go down and Bowen will leave. Then he can become someone else's best player :)
 
RMBlade said:
I agree with most of that but I think West Ham will go down and Bowen will leave. Then he can become someone else's best player :)
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Fingers crossed eh 🤞
He came on for 15 minutes or so and certainly didn't disappoint. Almost scored after a brilliant run , dinked the keeper but hit his head, really unlucky.
 
itsinyerblood said:
Spot on about WHAM, far too inconsistent. I wonder if they've had the same side playing for more than 2 games on the trot? Do like Snodgrass though.
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Yes it seems WHU pick their games to be impressive hence where they are, I hate to admit it but I'm a Snodgrass fan as well. Let's face it lots still don't like West Ham but the fans are treat like idiots by the owners and the board and have been shit on for years now, they do deserve better.
 
Ricky said:
Newcastle won't go down but Shelvey would be great for us.
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Wow. I’d not put him on the tills in the shop. Immobile, thick, questionable commitment, big wages, initial promise behind him. A wand of a right foot isn’t enough.

The sort of recruitment that leads to relegations for clubs like us. As Newcastle may yet demonstrate.
 
JohnDenver said:
Wow. I’d not put him on the tills in the shop. Immobile, thick, questionable commitment, big wages, initial promise behind him. A wand of a right foot isn’t enough.

The sort of recruitment that leads to relegations for clubs like us. As Newcastle may yet demonstrate.
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He's more than just a 'wand of a right foot'.

He's decent enough physically with good stature and strength.

He doesn't strike me as a character Wilder wouldn't work with.

Big wages, yes. Maybe not so big if Newcastle went down.
 
Guesty said:
I don't get McGinn at all. Our midfield in general and Fleck in particular piss all over him every time we play Villa.
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I don’t see the need to upgrade the Fleck position. The right side of the team needs upgrading throughout, the left side is currently fine.
 

RMBlade said:
I agree with most of that but I think West Ham will go down and Bowen will leave. Then he can become someone else's best player :)
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When the Bowen transfer nearly collapsed on deadline day it was down to the fact he wasn't prepared to sign a contract that included such a drop in wages if West Ham were relegated.

They got round this by sticking a get out clause in there agreeing he could leave for a set figure in the event of relegation not dissimilar to what they paid for him.

So in theory we could pick him up for around £20 million, which I still think is decent value, however West Sham did what West Sham always do and gave him £80k (he will have been on a max of £5k a week at Dull) a week so he would almost certainly be looking for the same if he was on the move again.

Now he could want that wage but if someone isn't prepared to pay that then he will only have 2 options:

1. Stay at West Sham in The Championship on £40k a week or
2. Sign for a Prem team on the same amount or slightly more and continue to play at the top level.

Option 2 seems the most likely outcome. I just don't see him excelling enough with 11 games to go in a shite West Sham team to make anyone part with £80k a week for him.
 
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