P*ssing the Championship next season?

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I think the difference with the likes of Huddersfield is... hopefully anyway... that we have a very good manager to guide us back up again.

I think Berge is cut out for the very top of the game and I reckon that's where he'll end up. I don't think he'd necessarily be a good fit for the Championship and I reckon he'll be off to a middling Prem side for 25mill this summer. Or maybe Spain/Germany. We'll look back wistfully in a few years time and what could have been. Anyway, enough about my man crush.

As has been said, the rest of the midfield needs shitloads of work. As it has for some time. Fleck will still be here and hopefully Norwood doesn't have the yips again. The Norwood from the last couple of seasons prior to this will be huge for us. Lunny... fuck off m8. Osborn... dunno. Is there a player there, I'm unsure. Freeman will be sold assuming Wilder is still here. Then I'd like at least 2 new players. Lee Evans and Ryan Leonard maybe?

I'm comfortable with the defence as it is. I think we'll keep Jack, simply due to questions about his rehab. I reckon we have another good season out of Bash yet. Whether we can keep Egan is questionable. Baldock may be sacrificed for funds given Bogle looking the absolute tits. I'd be comfortable with one of the LBs going, but not sure if there'll be many takers.

Up front I think we've got potential for a very very memorable season. Ollie McB is fantastic at that level (I still think he has the ability for this level in all honesty). I think Moose would do well too, but not sure we need him and I reckon he'll be off to the continent.

Oh, and I think Rammers will be fine. Less pressure. That little bit older. Hopefully more confidence.

Fuck it, I'm really looking forward to it. The Premier League was great fun last season, but when you're doing shit, there's few places worse.
 

If we do end up in the Championship (and we very likely will now), I would be confident as long as we got everybody fit and firing. Remember that we still have the squad that finished 9th in the Premier League and it should be able to cope in the Championship given that many of the players have spent a lot of their careers in it.

So let's look at how we'd likely be different to the promotion team and the team that finished 9th last year?

Ramsdale for Henderson. OK, Rammers - for now - isn't on Deano's level but he is showing signs that he is settling now and there's no doubt he would be a solid pair of hands in the Championship. Also, having our best defenders available again might be helpful to him!

The back five could well be the same as when we went up. Because I think we need a little freshen up, I wouldn't be averse to the idea of going with Lowe/RND instead of Stevens and Bogle instead of Baldock. The question here is probably the future of Egan who would be one of the most likely to attract interest from the PL. However, Egan is the easiest of the three defenders to replace - his role is less specialised than Basham and O'Connell's roles. If we ended up getting the £20+ offer for Egan, I think we should be able to replace him quite easily with less than half of that money.

In midfield, we will have to improve and I suspect we'd see a "Duffy" brought in to replace Lundstram. Here, I'd like to see CW/AK thinking long term and looking for a "Duffy" that can step up and be solid in the Premier League as well. Obviously, the next question mark is over the future of Berge. Berge, Fleck and a "Duffy" would be really interesting to me in the Championship. However, we do have Norwood and - if he can get that form back - we know he knows that role perfectly too. I don't see United letting Berge go for peanuts either so there could be money there to spend on a replacement. The one I'd worry about is Fleck. He is replaceable - but not easily replaceable. I've had a saying for ages about SUFC - if Fleck plays well, United play well. He would be my key priority (after O'Connell) to keep.

Up front, it hasn't worked this season but I do still think that's partially down to the lack of service. If we got them all fit and firing and we were creating more for them, I would be happy with our current crop of strikers in the Championship. McGoldrick, Sharp, McBurnie and Brewster are all proven in the Championship, Burke offers something different and I'd love to see a fully fit and firing Mousset in the Championship. Obviously, there's big question marks over Mousse, understandably so but I saw enough in the early months of last season to think he's worth persevering with.

I can see why people are fairly confident. If we don't lose anybody, I would say we're only a "Duffy" short of a major challenge. Like I say, I would consider a freshen up and I think we need a couple of backup options for midfield and defence. Then it depends on who leaves and how much we get. I think we need to be considering a big outlay for the "Duffy" role and to replace any of Egan/Berge/Fleck/O'Connell. However, if we sell any of those, we should be able to spend a chunk on the replacement and parachute payments hopefully will allow us to get the "Duffy" role. Our profile is much higher too so high-quality loans from the likes of MUFC and CFC can't be ruled out as options to strengthen us.

However, we can't be overconfident and I hate the idea that people say we'll "piss the league" as it makes us sound like Wednesday. If we work as hard as we did last time, we'll be fine and we'll challenge but the work ethic and team spirit depends, IMO, on Wilder hanging around.
 
Kev Gee said:
Listen to yourselves. Sounding as arrogant as the pigs.

We deserve nothing and have to earn every win.

Next season won't be easy by any.means.
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Will happily be corrected, but has anyone in the thread said we'll piss it next season? Or that it will be easy?
 
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lot of negativity on this thread i think were nailed on for a top 6 finish at the least the championship is a poor league thesedays
 
Very few sides "piss" the championship. Reading did when they got over 100 points back in 2006. That's about it.

That said I think we have a crack of doing well.
 
Berkshire Blade said:
Very few sides "piss" the championship. Reading did when they got over 100 points back in 2006. That's about it.

That said I think we have a crack of doing well.
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Norwich are making a fair old fist of it right now.

Mind you, I don't think we will. But you've got to give it them, they found a really good balance between selling some of the best players and keeping others.
 
Drunk blade said:
On what point do you think Ramsdale is good with crosses or do you not think championship teams tend to put it in the box a lot?
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I personally think it's a confidence and concentration thing. It's a worry over his long term career if it gets knocked so badly, but I think if he 'thinks less' then he'll catch more. We don't need psychologists though obviously.
 
Drunk blade said:
On what point do you think Ramsdale is good with crosses or do you not think championship teams tend to put it in the box a lot?
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Where to start? I don’t think Ramsdale will concede a lot of goals next season. I don’t believe he is innately poor on crosses and I don’t think most Championship sides launch it into the box.
 
Houso said:
I personally think it's a confidence and concentration thing. It's a worry over his long term career if it gets knocked so badly, but I think if he 'thinks less' then he'll catch more. We don't need psychologists though obviously.
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I agree with that he always seems terrified when hes walking out rather than like an £18m prem league keeper... A lot of the mistakes he makes are nervous ones
 
Drunk blade said:
I agree with that he always seems terrified when hes walking out rather than like an £18m prem league keeper... A lot of the mistakes he makes are nervous ones
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If he had Hendo's arrogance, he'd be much much better. He made awful mistakes, but bounced back immediately.
 
Flatulent_Bob said:
Where to start? I don’t think Ramsdale will concede a lot of goals next season. I don’t believe he is innately poor on crosses and I don’t think most Championship sides launch it into the box.
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Come on!! have you watched our matches? He's proved he's bad with crosses he very rarely comes for the ball and usually drops it when he does.. I'd personally try and get blackman back from Rotherham

Barnsley slung the ball in the box almost every time against Chelsea.. Would have caused our defence massive problems
 

I think the core of the squad is good enough to challenge for promotion with some shrewd additions. Hopefully McBurnie and Brewster can find their shooting boots.
 
Houso said:
If he had Hendo's arrogance, he'd be much much better. He made awful mistakes, but bounced back immediately.
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Hendo had a couple of seasons at a lower level to build that confidence though. Rammers has had two seasons behind a poor defence both of whom defend crosses poorly. Hardly the best for aiding confidence when coming out. With a settled back 5 Ramsdale will prove a lot of people wrong.
 
Flatulent_Bob said:
Hendo had a couple of seasons at a lower level to build that confidence though. Rammers has had two seasons behind a poor defence both of whom defend crosses poorly. Hardly the best for aiding confidence when coming out. With a settled back 5 Ramsdale will prove a lot of people wrong.
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One of the defenders he played behind at Bournemouth was sold to Man city for £40m
 
Drunk blade said:
One of the defenders he played behind at Bournemouth was sold to Chelsea for £40m
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I’m sure there is some relevance to the words you’re throwing together, but I’ll be buggered if I can find it? Are you trying to claim Bournemouth had a good defence last season, along with Championship sides play a lot of balls into the box because of a game you watched which wasn’t a Championship game?
 
Flatulent_Bob said:
Hendo had a couple of seasons at a lower level to build that confidence though. Rammers has had two seasons behind a poor defence both of whom defend crosses poorly. Hardly the best for aiding confidence when coming out. With a settled back 5 Ramsdale will prove a lot of people wrong.
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I hope you're right there just seems to be a lot of similarities with George Long from what I've seen of both
 
Flatulent_Bob said:
I’m sure there is some relevance to the words you’re throwing together, but I’ll be buggered if I can find it? Are you trying to claim Bournemouth had a good defence last season, along with Championship sides play a lot of balls into the box because of a game you watched which wasn’t a Championship game?
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Flatulent_Bob said:
I’m sure there is some relevance to the words you’re throwing together, but I’ll be buggered if I can find it? Are you trying to claim Bournemouth had a good defence last season, along with Championship sides play a lot of balls into the box because of a game you watched which wasn’t a Championship game?
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You're not trying very hard are you

Barnsley are a championship side numpty, also I've watched quite a few championship games this and last season, how many have you watched?
 
If we defend like we have this season we will be in serious shit ,team's will sit deep and pick us off on corners and free kicks

Not optimistic I'm.afraid
 
Drunk blade said:
You're not trying very hard are you

Barnsley are a championship side numpty, also I've watched quite a few championship games this and last season, how many have you watched?
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If you think lower league sides set up to play exactly the same way against top Premier league sides in a one off cup match then I think you need to look closer to home for the numpty. Try starting with the fella claiming Bournemouth had a good defence last season.
 
Flatulent_Bob said:
If you think lower league sides set up to play exactly the same way against top Premier league sides in a one off cup match then I think you need to look closer to home for the numpty.
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Barnsley just scored from a corner by the way
 
Niceguyeddie said:
If we defend like we have this season we will be in serious shit ,team's will sit deep and pick us off on corners and free kicks

Not optimistic I'm.afraid
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Bloody hell, if you're not confident we must be in trouble!

I do agree though.
 
Flatulent_Bob said:
Fucking hell, long ball merchants, putting a corner in the box. Typical of the championship that.
Tell me again about Bournemouth’s great defence?
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Not saying they were great just that the main player that kept the score down went to man City for £40m so they weren't all shit.. Ramsdale let a load of soft goals in for them too, have a look at the highlights of their games..
 
Drunk blade said:
Not saying they were great just that the main player that kept the score down went to man City for £40m so they weren't all shit.. Ramsdale let a load of soft goals in for them too, have a look at the highlights of their games..
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My comment was he’s had two seasons behind a poor defence. Your counter to that was one of the players was sold for £40m which has no relevance to the point whatsoever, unless you are claiming the defence wasn’t poor. Is that what you are claiming?
PS Ramsdale let in so many soft goals he was their fans player of the season.
 
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Flatulent_Bob said:
My comment was he’s had two seasons behind a poor defence. Your counter to that was one of the players was sold for £40m which has no relevance to the point whatsoever, unless you are claiming the defence wasn’t poor.
Is that what you are claiming?
PS Ramsdale let in so many soft goals he was their fans player of the season.
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No he's been 'part of' a poor defence for two seasons, he is also culpable. If he was playing in Burnleys team for example he would make their defence considerably weaker and they would drop a lot of points because of it. Stick Ramsdale in Burnleys net and they would be on similar points to us and West brom
 
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