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I haven't a scooby what's going to happen over the next three games with either us or Leeds.

But if we end up on the same points at the end, what's the likelihood that they could catch up the +6 GD?
 

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I haven't a scooby what's going to happen over the next three games with either us or Leeds.

But if we end up on the same points at the end, what's the likelihood that they could catch up the +6 GD?
Norwich only have a +2 goal difference on us, so a couple of decent wins and we should be able to make that up
 

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Work it out this way.. if we both win our last three games the lesat they will need to score to beat us is Ten goals in those three games.

Edit: No I think they would do it with nine.
 
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I haven't a scooby what's going to happen over the next three games with either us or Leeds.

But if we end up on the same points at the end, what's the likelihood that they could catch up the +6 GD?
As this is SUFC you are talking about, obviously more likely than not.
 

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Worried about what they could do to Ipswich. We lose 2 to stoke and they put 4 past tractor boys and it's reversed. Nah we'll have it settled on points.
 

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Worried about what they could do to Ipswich. We lose 2 to stoke and they put 4 past tractor boys and it's reversed. Nah we'll have it settled on points.
Think you should be concerned about today. Nothing else has any relevance until the result at Hull is known.
Then the result at Brentford tonight.
The last game of the season is light years away.
 

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It’s better than you think.

It’s not simply a 6 goal difference so if they win their next 2 matches 3-0 they’ve caught up.

We’re currently on a +32 goal difference with Leeds on a +26 goal difference.
Let’s assume we beat Hull 1-0, only beat Ipswich 1-0, then beat Stoke 1-0.
That puts us on a +35 goal difference.

So it means Leeds need to make up NINE goals to equal us and TEN goals to better our goal difference.

The odds on Leeds winning all their last 3 matches by 3 or 4 goals is very unlikely.
Basically they’re not going to catch up.
 

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It’s better than you think.

It’s not simply a 6 goal difference so if they win their next 2 matches 3-0 they’ve caught up.

We’re currently on a +32 goal difference with Leeds on a +26 goal difference.
Let’s assume we beat Hull 1-0, only beat Ipswich 1-0, then beat Stoke 1-0.
That puts us on a +35 goal difference.

So it means Leeds need to make up NINE goals to equal us and TEN goals to better our goal difference.

The odds on Leeds winning all their last 3 matches by 3 or 4 goals is very unlikely.
Basically they’re not going to catch up.

Have I missed something Have we beaten Hull Ipswich and Stoke?.
The football gods will be having a collective mass debating session over this thread.
 

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Worried about what they could do to Ipswich. We lose 2 to stoke and they put 4 past tractor boys and it's reversed. Nah we'll have it settled on points.
As explained above, it’s not a 6 goal swing, if both teams win their remaining 3 matches.
It will be at least a 9 goal swing to equal us and a 10 goal swing to better our goal difference.

Remember GD only comes into play if us and Leeds gain the exact same points in the final 3 games.
So on the final day if we find ourselves above Leeds by 3 points.

Let’s assume we beat Hull and Ipswich 1-0, giving us a +34 GD.
Then Leeds lose 0-1 to Brentford but beat Villa 1-0, they would have a +26 GD.

So if we lose to Stoke by 2 goals, then in order for Leeds to overtake us they’d need to beat Ipswich by 7 clear goals.
 

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Have I missed something Have we beaten Hull Ipswich and Stoke?.
The football gods will be having a collective mass debating session over this thread.
If Leeds win their last 3 but we don’t then GD is irrelevant.

Remember, goal difference only comes into play if we match Leeds points tally in the last 3 games.
Let’s assume then that we lose 0-1 against both Hull and Ipswich making our GD +30.
But Leeds also lose 0-1 to Brentford and Villa, making their goal difference +24.

That would mean if Leeds lost to Ipswich by 1 goal, then we’d need to lose to Stoke by 8 goals for them to overtake us.

Agree, it’s does seem weird that for a change we could succeed in goal difference instead of losing out.
You can just imagine Leeds needing 7 goals on the final day, so we know it’s impossible, then the football Gods send us a message when Leeds are 4-0 up at half time, so we all go into panic mode.
 
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We need to get in Ipswich's good books next week.

If they could pull off a 2-0 defeat against Leeds that could be very helpful.
 

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The football gods will be having a collective mass debating session over this thread.
The footballing gods will already have it worked out. Win for Blades and Leeds today. Win for Blades and draw for Leeds next weekend. Win for Leeds loss for Blades on the final day.

But I'm an atheist.
 

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It's a little bonus I guess, but I really think this is going to come down to points.
 

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The footballing gods will already have it worked out. Win for Blades and Leeds today. Win for Blades and draw for Leeds next weekend. Win for Leeds loss for Blades on the final day.

But I'm an atheist.
The above is my fear too.

Would be so nerve racking playing Stoke in the last match knowing that even if Leeds beat Ipswich then just a draw against Stoke is enough, You can just imagine United sitting back the whole match away at Stoke and being very cautious just concentrating on not conceding.
 

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IF..........we win today and the Bees sting +3.
IF.........we beat Ipswich and the Villains steal a point +5.
What do points make ?
It won’t go to goal difference.
 

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I don’t think it will come down to goal difference anyway.

Both Leeds and our own form has been a bit in different for the last few weeks. Can’t see both teams winning all 3 of our remaining games. Especially with Leeds playing Villa.

I think (and hope) we’ll have a points advantage that takes us up.

If we win a tough game today and then again on Saturday I think a draw will be enough against Stoke to see us up.
 

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