georgebernardshaw
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Did you know: 'there's no such thing as a fish'.
My recent catch record confirms this....
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Did you know: 'there's no such thing as a fish'.
Common sense wasted on Mr AngryThe regular revenue has gone on wages too.
Here is a simple fact. Players in La Liga cost more per week than players in the third division. Look around and see how many other clubs in the Championship make a profit (i.e revenue less wages). It is a very short list....
You don't get it.
You really don't, but moan away anyway.
I've got to go now, to help KM shove some more of that lovely dosh in his pockets.
No control, that's the problem with being too relaxedI am a realist
Therefore I don't waste my time and energy on idle speculation or worrying about things that I have control over and can not influence.
Being a realist is a brilliant, stress free, way of life and I fully recommend it.
Did you know: 'there's no such thing as a fish'.
No but you dismiss the wage bill rising from 9m to 18 to 20 m plus for the last 3 years as irrelevant. Income is 10 m a year but hey ho the money fairies pay that don't theyDo you work for McCabe? Seems so.
pommpey
No but you dismiss the wage bill rising from 9m to 18 to 20 m plus for the last 3 years as irrelevant. Income is 10 m a year but hey ho the money fairies pay that don't they
Chris tends to keep his gob shut and then pull four rabbits out of the bag on the same day. just sayin'If we wait while July we will have a month to sign players, is that short? doubt it
it's all relative mateThe conclusion I drew years ago was that like Einsteins theory of relativity, fully understanding the Blades accounts is above my pay scale.
Though I can make guesses the same as everyone else, though we all arrive at different conclusions, which shows that it is not conclusive.
The summary - wheres monnee gone.
McCabe out
But, hang on. You make an assumption that cash in (as a whole) has stayed the same at £10m? You pump the wage bill up but leave the 'cash in' but the same. It's not though, is it? Gates have increased, telly appearances have been pretty regular.
So it's quite convenient to overlook the fact that had Maguire and Walker not been sold, we'd be about seven million light? Is that what you're saying?
Seems to me you're still doing McCabe's bean counting for him. Look at the eyes, look at the eyes ...
pommpey
Never mind that,weers munny gon? McCabe's not a crook though,I got right irate writing thatTV money is, I believe, paid as £100,000 for the home team and £10,000 for the away team. We were on TV probably around 12 times last season, so yeah we have received an extra £1.2m or so but that pales in insignificance compared to the amount wages have increased! In fact I bet the TV money didn't even cover Billy's wages for the season!
But, hang on. You make an assumption that cash in (as a whole) has stayed the same at £10m? You pump the wage bill up but leave the 'cash in' but the same. It's not though, is it? Gates have increased, telly appearances have been pretty regular.
So it's quite convenient to overlook the fact that had Maguire and Walker not been sold, we'd be about seven million light? Is that what you're saying?
Seems to me you're still doing McCabe's bean counting for him. Look at the eyes, look at the eyes ...
pommpey
2014/15 | 2015/16 | 2016/17 | 2017/18 | |
Match Day income | 7,654 | 7,841 | 6,522 | 8,734 |
Media income | 1,864 | 1,735 | 1,623 | 8,102 |
Academy income | 784 | 727 | 708 | 695 |
Facility income | 458 | 338 | 819 | 631 |
Retail income | - | - | 1,388 | 1,595 |
Superdraw income | - | - | 300 | 271 |
Turnover | 10,759 | 10,641 | 11,360 | 20,028 |
Cost of Sales | (11,294) | (13,307) | (11,596) | (21,758) |
Gross Profit/(Loss) | (535) | (2,666) | (236) | (1,730) |
Admin expense exc. Player registrations | (4,286) | (5,382) | (5,648) | (6,299) |
Player Registrations Amortisation | (782) | (1,681) | (2,575) | (2,177) |
Exceptional Admin Expense | - | (794) | - | - |
Operating Profit/(Loss) | (5,603) | (10,523) | (8,459) | (10,206) |
Other income | 76 | 76 | 76 | 76 |
Profit on player sales | 2,170 | 1,855 | 2,740 | 8,382 |
Total Operating Profit/(Loss) | (3,357) | (8,592) | (5,643) | (1,748) |
Interest | (30) | (44) | (36) | (148) |
Profit/(Loss) Before Tax | (3,387) | (8,636) | (5,679) | (1,896) |
Corporation Tax | - | - | - | - |
Profit/(Loss) After Tax | (3,387) | (8,636) | (5,679) | (1,896) |
Wage bill | 10,034 | 18,966 | ||
Player wages | 5,500 | 6,800 | 5,700 | 13,100 |
Player Wages % turnover | 51% | 64% | 50% | 65% |
My recent catch record confirms this....
Match day income rose by £2.2m between the League One title season and our first season back in the Championship. Media income rose by £6.5m.
We made a £10m operating loss in 2017/18. However, as the Walker & Maguire bonus fees were received at the start of that season that would have been budgeted for; we lost £1.9m at the bottom line.
It's all in the accounts. I've even done the difficult work and put it in a table for you.
2014/15 2015/16 2016/17 2017/18 Match Day income 7,654 7,841 6,522 8,734Media income 1,864 1,735 1,623 8,102Academy income 784 727 708 695Facility income 458 338 819 631Retail income - - 1,388 1,595Superdraw income - - 300 271Turnover 10,759 10,641 11,360 20,028Cost of Sales (11,294) (13,307) (11,596) (21,758)Gross Profit/(Loss) (535) (2,666) (236) (1,730)Admin expense exc. Player registrations (4,286) (5,382) (5,648) (6,299)Player Registrations Amortisation (782) (1,681) (2,575) (2,177)Exceptional Admin Expense - (794) - -Operating Profit/(Loss) (5,603) (10,523) (8,459) (10,206)Other income 76 76 76 76Profit on player sales 2,170 1,855 2,740 8,382Total Operating Profit/(Loss) (3,357) (8,592) (5,643) (1,748)Interest (30) (44) (36) (148)Profit/(Loss) Before Tax (3,387) (8,636) (5,679) (1,896)Corporation Tax - - - -Profit/(Loss) After Tax (3,387) (8,636) (5,679) (1,896)Wage bill 10,034 18,966Player wages 5,500 6,800 5,700 13,100Player Wages % turnover 51% 64% 50% 65%
*Retail was only broken out of match day income in the latest set of accounts. I've no idea where the Superdraw income sat previously.
You can moan all you want about "weer'z munneh gone" but it's pretty obvious - all the income and more goes on paying the squad of players and the administration required to run a high-level professional football club. The basic income isn't enough so we have to sell players to bridge the gap. The 2018/19 accounts, when they're released, will be similar to the 2017/18 accounts with a big operating loss offset by the profit on player sales (£11.5m+ for Brooks in this case).
Not that I expect any of this to sink in mind.
Or the completely ignore the post, strategyExpect a "you can make accounts say what you want, l know weer munneh s gone, Belgium, that's weer, how much wer spent on paper clips, tha dunt know so them figures can't be reyt" post.
Or the completely ignore the post, strategy
It’s for kidney assaults...No wonder, is that a riptail octopus hook?
well when did the season ticket income double , its been about 1m either side of being the sameBut, hang on. You make an assumption that cash in (as a whole) has stayed the same at £10m? You pump the wage bill up but leave the 'cash in' but the same. It's not though, is it? Gates have increased, telly appearances have been pretty regular.
So it's quite convenient to overlook the fact that had Maguire and Walker not been sold, we'd be about seven million light? Is that what you're saying?
Seems to me you're still doing McCabe's bean counting for him. Look at the eyes, look at the eyes ...
pommpey
Can we wait for signings to find out what Wilder has to spend before...
A) Claiming it is 'nowt',
B) Claiming it is being impacted by the court case, and...
C) Claiming Wilder is unhappy with either of the above and therefore wants to leave.
It is early June.
Also, pro tip: the thing you're moaning about has to actually happen before you can moan about it
Match day income rose by £2.2m between the League One title season and our first season back in the Championship. Media income rose by £6.5m.
We made a £10m operating loss in 2017/18. However, as the Walker & Maguire bonus fees were received at the start of that season that would have been budgeted for; we lost £1.9m at the bottom line.
It's all in the accounts. I've even done the difficult work and put it in a table for you.
2014/15 2015/16 2016/17 2017/18 Match Day income 7,654 7,841 6,522 8,734Media income 1,864 1,735 1,623 8,102Academy income 784 727 708 695Facility income 458 338 819 631Retail income - - 1,388 1,595Superdraw income - - 300 271Turnover 10,759 10,641 11,360 20,028Cost of Sales (11,294) (13,307) (11,596) (21,758)Gross Profit/(Loss) (535) (2,666) (236) (1,730)Admin expense exc. Player registrations (4,286) (5,382) (5,648) (6,299)Player Registrations Amortisation (782) (1,681) (2,575) (2,177)Exceptional Admin Expense - (794) - -Operating Profit/(Loss) (5,603) (10,523) (8,459) (10,206)Other income 76 76 76 76Profit on player sales 2,170 1,855 2,740 8,382Total Operating Profit/(Loss) (3,357) (8,592) (5,643) (1,748)Interest (30) (44) (36) (148)Profit/(Loss) Before Tax (3,387) (8,636) (5,679) (1,896)Corporation Tax - - - -Profit/(Loss) After Tax (3,387) (8,636) (5,679) (1,896)Wage bill 10,034 18,966Player wages 5,500 6,800 5,700 13,100Player Wages % turnover 51% 64% 50% 65%
*Retail was only broken out of match day income in the latest set of accounts. I've no idea where the Superdraw income sat previously.
You can moan all you want about "weer'z munneh gone" but it's pretty obvious - all the income and more goes on paying the squad of players and the administration required to run a high-level professional football club. The basic income isn't enough so we have to sell players to bridge the gap. The 2018/19 accounts, when they're released, will be similar to the 2017/18 accounts with a big operating loss offset by the profit on player sales (£11.5m+ for Brooks in this case).
Not that I expect any of this to sink in mind.
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