Player Suggestion Bright Osayi-Samuel

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Similar to Eze, price tag will probably be £10m plus......can't see us spunkin that kind of money in the Championship....
 
Torrix1889 said:
Similar to Eze, price tag will probably be £10m plus......can't see us spunkin that kind of money in the Championship....
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If you read my report it says at the start he is out of contract in the summer....
 
Wanted us to sign him in the summer. As FriethBlade says, excatly the type we need. But I either Wilder doesn't think our system can accomodate someone like that in the Prem and/or we can't afford those types when they are of a quality that can come up such as Benrahma and Eze. Maybe he doesn't want to pay big money by our standards for someone that effectively is a gamble such as an Bright Samuel type. I'm just speculating obviously.

Based on the Burke signing, I think this was Wilders' budget attempt to inject that creativity and pace in there. I'm convinced that back in the Championship Burke could be a really good asset to us possibly in the Duffy role. Some may say, well we spent all our money on Brewster but I seem to recall that deal was structured over several years and I think that made it much easier than others for us to complete. Maybe Liverpool can afford to let players go like that and receive monies over a few years whereas a QPR can't. Anyway, waffle aside, I'd love us to sign him, but it won't happen now where we are. We can hope for a creative midfielder though and tht would be amazing if we could sign someone like Swift as an example and inject some creativity into our currently pedestrian and crab like midfield
 
Played against us when a kid for Blackpool in the 3rd division. Could see he’d got potential then.
 
Bladesmanstan said:
If you read my report it says at the start he is out of contract in the summer....
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Skim read it.....well if it's not the transfer fee that would be the problem then it would be wages, (see Antonee Robinson) and also the fact that as already pointed out Wilder doesn't like flair players or anyone capable of picking up the ball and driving forward with pace....
 
Yeah you're right😂does seem like he doesn't like that type of player. I'm just praying we get someone similar to him in the summer.

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You have to have these type of players in the premiership. Game breakers who can do something oit of the ordinary and change the course of a game.

Even the perennial lower table premiership sides have them. Palace have Sahara and Eze, Newcastle have Saint Maximan, Fulham have Lookman etc etc. Otherwise you are too easy to defend against, as we are seeing at present.
 
FriethBlade said:
You have to have these type of players in the premiership. Game breakers who can do something oit of the ordinary and change the course of a game.

Even the perennial lower table premiership sides have them. Palace have Sahara and Eze, Newcastle have Saint Maximan, Fulham have Lookman etc etc. Otherwise you are too easy to defend against, as we are seeing at present.
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yes your right it is just what were lacking that bit of individual flair and i know im banging on again but this 352 system just doesnt allow us to have 2 or 3 players like this its far too rigid although i am hopeful that we will be more expansive in the championship
 
FriethBlade said:
You have to have these type of players in the premiership. Game breakers who can do something oit of the ordinary and change the course of a game.

Even the perennial lower table premiership sides have them. Palace have Sahara and Eze, Newcastle have Saint Maximan, Fulham have Lookman etc etc. Otherwise you are too easy to defend against, as we are seeing at present.
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If we can sign that Sahara from Palace it would suit our goal drought perfectly.
 

Berlin Blade said:
Said on a different thread I'd LOVE him and Dembele from Posh.

Unpredictability, pace, threat. It annoys me that we seem allergic to this type of player. Everyone else is allowed one, why aren't we?

Imagine those two either side of Burke. We'd be SO FAST on the break.
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Precisely. Eze, Zaha and Townsend’s unpredictability made the difference against Palace. Wilder is too welded to a limited workhorse. Especially in midfield.
 
BadgersBigToe said:
Stayed in the ImperialPalace for a few nights whilst working out there, god what a dump.....no wonder its no longer there.
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Never stayed there, but I did stay at Vegas World the first time I went there on business, that was crap, then Stardust, that wasn't much better, stayed at Mirage which was ok, Treasure Island, not bad, Aladdin (new one), Luxor, New York, New York, MGM Grand, Ballys, Aria, Palms, and a few others. Must be five years since I was there.

When I first went, Vegas was cheap and cheerful, tacky, and you could get all-you-can-eat buffet breakfast for $1.99 at most casino's and Steak dinner for about 7 quid. They just wanted to get you on the building, then it slowly changed and had Gordon Ramsey restaurants and stuff and it became really, really expensive.

Even the most basic night clubs will charge you 50 quid to get in these days. The famous ones, with famous DJ's, cost more. And you have to stand all night, if you want to sit down at a (roped off) table, it costs a fortune, I think the cheapest one at Cosmopolitan was 3 grand.
 
Let me ask you all this, Is Wilder stopping us from progressing into a better team by only signing 'his' players and not signing players such as this fella, Eze, Benrhama- The fast flair type players most fans want to see at the lane
 
blades14 said:
Let me ask you all this, Is Wilder stopping us from progressing into a better team by only signing 'his' players and not signing players such as this fella, Eze, Benrhama- The fast flair type players most fans want to see at the lane
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That's a really good question. In the case of Eze and Benrahma, I don't think so as they're probably on much bigger wages than we could afford and probably wanted to stay in London over a move north anyway, unless it was to a bigger club like Leeds - sorry to say that!

But Bright-Samuel I'm sure we could have attracted this summer, or someone else of that ilk. But as we don't play with wingers or an attacking mid, until the last few weeks, and even then its more a case of playing McGoldrick in the position for greater possesion, I'm not so sure where that type would play. Burke is a player with skill and pace and we play him up top which arguably isn't his best position. Maybe if we go down we'll revert to the "Duffy" role and we could then accomodate a Bright-Samuel type but even then I think Wilder may prefer someone more of a playmaker in that role who can pick out a pass, play a one two etc and open up opposition, as opposed to someone like Eze who runs past people at ease. We didn't struggle last seson either way and didn't play a number 10 even.

I still think one of our buggest problems, apart from lack of players form, is the lack of service/creavitity from the full backs, sorry wing backs, but really they're full backs that get forward and that shows sadly at times. Signing Robinson from Wigan would have given us someone with greater potential going forward, so obviously Wilder knows that we need quality there and presumably if he could afford to upgrade on either wing back he would. Bogle looks impressive though.
 
Grappler said:
Never stayed there, but I did stay at Vegas World the first time I went there on business, that was crap, then Stardust, that wasn't much better, stayed at Mirage which was ok, Treasure Island, not bad, Aladdin (new one), Luxor, New York, New York, MGM Grand, Ballys, Aria, Palms, and a few others. Must be five years since I was there.

When I first went, Vegas was cheap and cheerful, tacky, and you could get all-you-can-eat buffet breakfast for $1.99 at most casino's and Steak dinner for about 7 quid. They just wanted to get you on the building, then it slowly changed and had Gordon Ramsey restaurants and stuff and it became really, really expensive.

Even the most basic night clubs will charge you 50 quid to get in these days. The famous ones, with famous DJ's, cost more. And you have to stand all night, if you want to sit down at a (roped off) table, it costs a fortune, I think the cheapest one at Cosmopolitan was 3 grand.
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3 grand to sit down. What a time to be alive
 
Grappler said:
Never stayed there, but I did stay at Vegas World the first time I went there on business, that was crap, then Stardust, that wasn't much better, stayed at Mirage which was ok, Treasure Island, not bad, Aladdin (new one), Luxor, New York, New York, MGM Grand, Ballys, Aria, Palms, and a few others. Must be five years since I was there.

When I first went, Vegas was cheap and cheerful, tacky, and you could get all-you-can-eat buffet breakfast for $1.99 at most casino's and Steak dinner for about 7 quid. They just wanted to get you on the building, then it slowly changed and had Gordon Ramsey restaurants and stuff and it became really, really expensive.

Even the most basic night clubs will charge you 50 quid to get in these days. The famous ones, with famous DJ's, cost more. And you have to stand all night, if you want to sit down at a (roped off) table, it costs a fortune, I think the cheapest one at Cosmopolitan was 3 grand.
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I used to travel to California at least once a month for around 10 years and occasionally would fly MAN-LAS with a 3.5 hr drive to outskirts of LA. On the way back would always stay an extra couple of nights so done most of the hotels you mention and I completely agree that the place has changed over the years. I was last there in March and got the last flight out before lockdown, that was a surreal moment...have you ever seen the strip looking like the photo?B509B919-6B07-4FAE-99B4-A423AC17551D.jpeg
 
Booker4 said:
That's a really good question. In the case of Eze and Benrahma, I don't think so as they're probably on much bigger wages than we could afford and probably wanted to stay in London over a move north anyway, unless it was to a bigger club like Leeds - sorry to say that!

But Bright-Samuel I'm sure we could have attracted this summer, or someone else of that ilk. But as we don't play with wingers or an attacking mid, until the last few weeks, and even then its more a case of playing McGoldrick in the position for greater possesion, I'm not so sure where that type would play. Burke is a player with skill and pace and we play him up top which arguably isn't his best position. Maybe if we go down we'll revert to the "Duffy" role and we could then accomodate a Bright-Samuel type but even then I think Wilder may prefer someone more of a playmaker in that role who can pick out a pass, play a one two etc and open up opposition, as opposed to someone like Eze who runs past people at ease. We didn't struggle last seson either way and didn't play a number 10 even.

I still think one of our buggest problems, apart from lack of players form, is the lack of service/creavitity from the full backs, sorry wing backs, but really they're full backs that get forward and that shows sadly at times. Signing Robinson from Wigan would have given us someone with greater potential going forward, so obviously Wilder knows that we need quality there and presumably if he could afford to upgrade on either wing back he would. Bogle looks impressive though.
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I think we could attract someone like B-S but i think our wage structure which wilder cant control and formation and tactics makes you very limited on who we can and cant sign which is down to Wilder himself so we're fishing in a puddle sized pool through stubborness
 
BadgersBigToe said:
I used to travel to California at least once a month for around 10 years and occasionally would fly MAN-LAS with a 3.5 hr drive to outskirts of LA. On the way back would always stay an extra couple of nights so done most of the hotels you mention and I completely agree that the place has changed over the years. I was last there in March and got the last flight out before lockdown, that was a surreal moment...have you ever seen the strip looking like the photo?View attachment 102570
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Paris, that's another place I stayed at one year.
 
blades14 said:
I think we could attract someone like B-S but i think our wage structure which wilder cant control and formation and tactics makes you very limited on who we can and cant sign which is down to Wilder himself so we're fishing in a puddle sized pool through stubborness
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I see your point. I can only think that Wilder doesn't feel we can accomodate a Bright-Samual type in the PL. I'd like us to bring in someone of that ilk, to at least be a plan B, and as time goes on to try and intograte someone like that. Only time will tell whether we will do that, presumably back in the Champ. I don't think Wilder doesn't want creativity, but doesn't want players who are not good defensively as that is obviously essential for teams in the Prem as we're always going to need to defend well, whereas in the Champ we can just score more than the opposition.
 
Booker4 said:
I see your point. I can only think that Wilder doesn't feel we can accomodate a Bright-Samual type in the PL. I'd like us to bring in someone of that ilk, to at least be a plan B, and as time goes on to try and intograte someone like that. Only time will tell whether we will do that, presumably back in the Champ. I don't think Wilder doesn't want creativity, but doesn't want players who are not good defensively as that is obviously essential for teams in the Prem as we're always going to need to defend well, whereas in the Champ we can just score more than the opposition.
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We couldn’t be anymore defensive if we tried. He’s the sort of player to make something happen. He relies on our fullbacks for creativity. We’re not in league 1 or championship where you put a ball the in box and sharps going to be there to tap it in. You need pace, agility, guile, innovation and creativity. He is that
 
blades14 said:
We couldn’t be anymore defensive if we tried. He’s the sort of player to make something happen. He relies on our fullbacks for creativity. We’re not in league 1 or championship where you put a ball the in box and sharps going to be there to tap it in. You need pace, agility, guile, innovation and creativity. He is that
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I get your points, I really do. But we could be more defensive. We could play 4-5-1 and just stick everyone behind the ball and hit teams over the top, bit like how Newcastle play, but they've got some quality to do that. Re creavitiy and the full backs, I can see where you're coming from there also, but our central midfield lack of quality this season has stripped Wilder of the creavity we had from Fleck - goals and assists, Norwood - through balls, set pieces and Lundstram - goals and assists. The lack of quality in the middle is really costing us as is Moose's form as he was important last season.

But you're right that pace, and creavitity etc, all of what you stated at the end of your last post is lacking at times. My thoughts are that Wilder probably doesn't want to have a player like that because within out budget we probably couldn't get someone good enough to do that consistently and then you'd lose some of the qualities we do have from the ommision of whoever goes out for a Bright-Samuel type, and/or possibly would require a complete change of formation and obviously Wilder doesn't want to do that, although where we are now there is less risk to doing that than ever before.

Either way, we were great last season playing the same we have this season, it's just this season we're not as good at it as we were last season for all the factors we know about. We didn't have a Brigh-Samuel type in the year we got promoted and got promoted and we all know we did well last season without any of the individual talent that almost everyone else does. Maybe over the time the plan was/is to add more creative players that cost more money that can be of the required quality. I don't know but I still think that we'll be strong again, even if that means we will be relegated first.
 

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