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CW obviously frustrated with the performance V's North London ;)

What I found interesting was how strongly he called players out and in such a public forum (could be the proven CW 'Henderson' technique of man management ;) ) Directly addressing contract talks taking time - presumably this was aimed as specific people, who will know who they are when they hear his words - and almost threatening that if you don't commit to the contract that's been offered, continue to turn in sub standard performance, you're done.

CW's clarity of thought to hold the integrity of the club above all is startling at times.
 

Ron_Justice said:



CW obviously frustrated with the performance V's North London ;)

What I found interesting was how strongly he called players out and in such a public forum (could be the proven CW 'Henderson' technique of man management ;) ) Directly addressing contract talks taking time - presumably this was aimed as specific people, who will know who they are when they hear his words - and almost threatening that if you don't commit to the contract that's been offered, continue to turn in sub standard performance, you're done.

CW's clarity of thought to hold the integrity of the club above all is startling at times.
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Yeah I agree, telling them to get the contracts signed was a positive and perhaps aimed at the agents as well as the player
 
When talking about the contract offers, he refers to Fleck and "two or three others".

I know one of them is Lundstram, who are the other ones?
 
My personal thought on this whole situation is, the players in question, almost to a man were languishing in the lower leagues or being loaned out , rarely or never a sniff at a decent winning team, most had something to prove and with help have done just that, but like Mark Duffy, no e is irreplaceable, anyone thinking they can do better else where will get a hand shake and close the door on your way out.
To be frank, the players in question need to look long and hard at mr Duffy and how his life has gone from an integral part of a very successful team, to not being able to get a contract at what appears to be a low half of the championship team, and I believe almost all will see what has helped their career take off is not their ability but the team and the management of it, and I believe if any others leave this set up, like MD they will end up on the bench at some team like stoke or worse, Wednesday 😉.
They will be getting a wage most normal people only dream of, and if they take care will be set for life on retirement, admitted not £100k+ a week, but a very decent lifestyle.
 
Ron_Justice said:



CW obviously frustrated with the performance V's North London ;)

What I found interesting was how strongly he called players out and in such a public forum (could be the proven CW 'Henderson' technique of man management ;) ) Directly addressing contract talks taking time - presumably this was aimed as specific people, who will know who they are when they hear his words - and almost threatening that if you don't commit to the contract that's been offered, continue to turn in sub standard performance, you're done.

CW's clarity of thought to hold the integrity of the club above all is startling at times.
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So why play lundstram then ? He badly needs a rest as his forms gone off a cliff since Xmas
 
I thought the 'contract' point was a subtle dig at their performances yesterday.

'I'd sign because after today's performances there won't be many Premier league cubs knocking at your door',

Chris, honest as ever. Unlike the weak Arteta who wished to disguise Arsenal's poor performance by pointing out weaknesses in ours.
 
The team has collectively out-performed this season and we naturally worry about losing our best players but they are hopefully wise enough to realise that life could be very different at another premier league club, both on and off the pitch.
 
It's very refreshing listening to Wilder speak, but sometimes I have to pinch myself. We have just got a draw away at Arsenal and Chris clearly isn't happy. The performance was not good enough. This man is a winner. He is constantly looking to improve everything about the club. If any of the players want to get off the bus, then bye bye, he will have others in the pipeline just waiting for a chance to join the Blades party.
 
Just another reminder, if one were needed, that we have a stupendous manager in Chris Wilder.

It's not just the "he talks straight" rhetoric, it's the fact that he's able to identify a problem, break it down, and leave everyone in no uncertain terms about what he feels and what he intends to do to improve matters. I love the fact that he's difficult to please, why shouldn't he be? Our standards have shot through the roof since Chris took over, and the progress of this club has been unimaginable given what we became accustomed to less than four years ago. We were drifting aimlessly, going nowhere fast, an insignificant team not worthy of their supporters, then Wilder gets the job and slowly we begin to show what every Blade has dreamt of, a team willing to fight for the ball and for each other, add to this the standard of football began to improve and soon we were playing out of our skins, and that's been the case ever since, with the odd couple of games as exceptions, but overall we're in dream-land, and no one can feel short changed by the fare that Wilder and the players manage to deliver for the paying customers.
 
Last week I watched Moyes evade a simple question about whether he thought it was a bad decision or a bad rule. I'm sick to death of the idea in football that managers shouldn't be honest about performances on and off the pitch. The whole Henderson thing all came from Wilder saying what absolutely everyone knew; Henderson dropped a bollock on an easy save. For some reason, even that is more than a manager should acknowledge yet I have no idea why.

All it sounded like he was saying is that some players should commit to the club and get working because we're going to be looking to improve with or without them. And if I'm wrong, I'm sure Wilder is smart enough that he'll have told the players exactly what he means face to face.

I love Wilder's interviews because I always feel like I've watched the same game as him, he doesn't hide high standards, he doesn't fail to credit opposition where it's due, and he never fluffs it with Adkins/Clough style bollocks about "enough chances to win the game" or "lots of endeavour".

I hope things continue on the current trend for Wilder because just maybe he'll spark a revolution where managers don't hide from every opinion they hold.
 
In today's star he says lundstarm hasn't indicated he wants to leave and doesn't see him not signing yet as a problem ( although in all my years of watching football its funny how performance levels fluctuate around contract talks ) norwood Egan and Stevens are the other three in talks and fleck is due to.start talks in the new year
 
PokerBlade said:
Last week I watched Moyes evade a simple question about whether he thought it was a bad decision or a bad rule. I'm sick to death of the idea in football that managers shouldn't be honest about performances on and off the pitch. The whole Henderson thing all came from Wilder saying what absolutely everyone knew; Henderson dropped a bollock on an easy save. For some reason, even that is more than a manager should acknowledge yet I have no idea why.

All it sounded like he was saying is that some players should commit to the club and get working because we're going to be looking to improve with or without them. And if I'm wrong, I'm sure Wilder is smart enough that he'll have told the players exactly what he means face to face.

I love Wilder's interviews because I always feel like I've watched the same game as him, he doesn't hide high standards, he doesn't fail to credit opposition where it's due, and he never fluffs it with Adkins/Clough style bollocks about "enough chances to win the game" or "lots of endeavour".

I hope things continue on the current trend for Wilder because just maybe he'll spark a revolution where managers don't hide from every opinion they hold.
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And he never resorts to blaming the ref. I’m no psychologist but I’ve always thought that Warnock’s (and countless others’) regular fallback of declaring the ref stitched his team up must give his players a mental get out of jail free card.

With Wilder his players are expected to overcome bad decisions or VAR disappointments. And we see the results of that in their attitude and discipline.

If more coaches shared his approach, just imagine the wider impact on the culture and behaviour towards referees across football.
 
Trafford said:
The team has collectively out-performed this season and we naturally worry about losing our best players but they are hopefully wise enough to realise that life could be very different at another premier league club, both on and off the pitch.
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The great factor for us is that everyone has a different opinion on who our best players are.
In fact we are a real unusual team because arguably we don’t have any “best players”.

I‘d probably say McGoldrick or Norwood are our most influential players
When any of those 2 don’t play to their normal standards the team seem to lose something
but neither will ever be in demand by top PL teams....they are only so influential for us because of their specialist role to the team.
 

Basically he's said that no one is irreplaceable and if you ain't with us then, your free to resume your career elsewhere.
For example Lundstrams form has dropped off a cliff since December. Is this because of the contract talks or because he is tired? He had half a dozen decent games at EPL level. He needs to realise he's only half a season from dropping back down the league. If your not up for it then there will be a player itching to take your place. Wether that's from the current squad or someone interested in signing for us.
 
JohnDenver said:
I’ve always thought that Warnock’s (and countless others’) regular fallback of declaring the ref stitched his team up must give his players a mental get out of jail free card.
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To be fair to Old Big Nose, what he said to the press and what he said to the players were very different things entirely.
 
He sorted out the dysfunctional clusterfuck left behind by the two Nigels (or possibly you could say the clusterfuck left by Nigel 1 that Nigel 2 failed abysmally to deal with and ended up making worse).

He did it quickly,effectively and quite ruthlessly - but not blindly either as seen by the way he turned round the situation with the transfer listed Coutts and Freeman K.

If ever there was a case for trotting out the "Wilder knows what he's doing" cliche I'd say this is it. No player on our books is bigger than the club.
 
If some of them think they can do better elsewhere then they can go - sure Wilder will replace/improve upon them. No room for any big bollocks attitudes in the way we need our squad to pull together.
 
derekacorah said:
Remember folks, we are just lapping up all of Wilders lies, don't believe anything he says.
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He says it because he has to. McCabe still has his dog which is part of the deal to be agreed with HRH, although a deal may be struck with the Chairman of the next big club who sack their manager.

Biggsy, Nicko, Nancy, Berky, have this one on me......
 
Wilder just gently squeezing some nuts

All players need motivating from time to time, look at the problem Solskjear is having at old trafford with players earning 100k a week plus
take lundstram on an off day over Fred any day of the week
 
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