Financial Mumbo-Jumbo

[TJB.]

May be of some interest to some on here.

 

[niktheblade]

Interesting to see our income at 20m and the pigs at 23m despite being backed by the Chancer..... maybe he isn't putting as much iin as we thought. Although I don't know if that would technically count as income?

 

[Snowman]

May be of some interest to some on here.

But weerz muneh gone?

 

[sheffielder]

Interesting to see our income at 20m and the pigs at 23m despite being backed by the Chancer..... maybe he isn't putting as much iin as we thought. Although I don't know if that would technically count as income?

I must admit, I was expecting this to be a lot more for the pigs, considering the shirt sponsorship and other back door stuff.

 

[Rodley]

MACCABE WEERZ MUNNEH

 

[BritishSteel]

MACCABE WEERZ MUNNEH

I blame the players. Coming to our club , playing good football , getting promoted and deservedly earning their wage. Makes one pine for the" cunts stealing a wage years" in the pub league.

 

[TJB.]

Interesting to see our income at 20m and the pigs at 23m despite being backed by the Chancer..... maybe he isn't putting as much iin as we thought. Although I don't know if that would technically count as income?

Maybe there's only so much money you can receive from companies which aren't fucking real.

They'd have Duff beer on the shirts if there were no laws on sponsorship from alcohol companies.

 

[Maidenhead]

Interesting figures.

Seems that Wendy's wage bill is about 50% bigger than ours.

Not doing them much good though.

 

[Smirth]

Interesting to see the wages bills of Norwich and Derby are 2nd and 3rd highest yet we are being fed that Norwich is an against the odds story and Lampard has repeatedly said Derby aren’t one of the big spenders in the league.

 

[Booker4]

Interesting figures.

Seems that Wendy's wage bill is about 50% bigger than ours.

Not doing them much good though.

If you employ lunatics as manager's it figures whatever you spend it's going to fail! And then they go for Bruce!

 

[BushBlade]

Interesting to see our income at 20m and the pigs at 23m despite being backed by the Chancer..... maybe he isn't putting as much iin as we thought. Although I don't know if that would technically count as income?

No, I think it would be shown as a loss, not as income.

 

[Houston_Blade]

This won’t fit with people’s agendas about why we haven’t spent the Brooks money. We’re losing £10m a year, that’s why folks.

 

[cooperblade]

I must admit, I was expecting this to be a lot more for the pigs, considering the shirt sponsorship and other back door stuff.

I believe Chansiri paid £1.2m for the shirt sponsorship and some of the stuff around the ground in 2018. In theory, any deal like this can't be for way over market value (otherwise rich owners could pay £50m to sponsor their own shirt and circumvent FFP). Throwing in the ground stuff muddies the waters a little but other Championship clubs (even the likes of Villa and Leeds) aren't getting 7 figure sums for shirt sponsorship deals so I don't think it would be unfair to say they've stretched it as far as they dare.

United are streets ahead of weds from a commercial point of view. Some of the money that weds are throwing away through not being commercially switched on is scary.

 

[Booker4]

The above figures are further proof of the financial damage resulting from chasing the "dream ticket" that is the Premier League. An organisation that cares not a jot for the rest of the EFL and has no interest, it seems, in facilitating a distribution of wealth from the insane TV revenue deals that Sky put in.

I'm not sure it could be achieved, but when Sky had their latest Premier League TV deal package accepted, which was a massive increase on the last deal, couldn't the Premier League insist one a maximum proportion could be spent on player wages?

In Germany, they still manage a top quality league, but with lower wages and match tickets under control.

 

[bornablade]

Why are Huddersfield in those tables?

The bad debtor. Was it Chansiri not paying for the tickets on the BLLT?

 

[bartman]

This won’t fit with people’s agendas about why we haven’t spent the Brooks money. We’re losing £10m a year, that’s why folks.

and also probably indicates that we will have to sell a first team player for substantial money each season unless we get promoted in order to keep with the financial guidelines. Chansiri's refusal to sell players has put Wednesday in financial distress

 

[bartman]

Why are Huddersfield in those tables?

The bad debtor. Was it Chansiri not paying for the tickets on the BLLT?

My first thought was Bolton

 

[Sheffsteel]

Interesting to see our income at 20m and the pigs at 23m despite being backed by the Chancer..... maybe he isn't putting as much iin as we thought. Although I don't know if that would technically count as income?

Wow......don’t let Owlstalk get hold of this data.
Their crowds are lower than ours but apparently it no longer matters.
They say it’s all about revenue and as (according to them) they charge nearly double what we charge, then their income will be double.

This is yet more evidence that Chancer is treating them as deluded mugs.

 

[Boxer Blade]

Come on Sean lets be avin you, you know you want to

 

[dc_blade]

Really interesting, cheers TomJonesBlade

It looks to me like the club is being run fairly sensibly and still making a sizable loss every season. This is the situation for every club not benefiting from parachute payments. To put it in FFP context: if we're losing 10 million a year, we only afford to increase that by 2-3 million before running into the danger of violating P&S rules. Even owners wealthier than the ones we have now would face that problem, by the way--the difference would be that we wouldn't have to sell a David Brooks every season to cover the losses.

 

[Bert]

This information ought to be compulsory ready for some of the posters on this site.

 

[CarlingBlade]

If we dont get promoted the plan for the summer is hope Harry Maguire goes to Man U for £50m and that Che Adams is sold on by Brum for £15m+

 

[wesleysnipesmen]

Interesting to see our income at 20m and the pigs at 23m despite being backed by the Chancer..... maybe he isn't putting as much iin as we thought. Although I don't know if that would technically count as income?

Their income is analysed slightly differently to ours (and is yet to be released for 2018), but you'd expect Chancers dodgy sponsorship deals (D Taxis, Elev8, etc) to be within the £6.5m commercial activities. The 2017 & 2016 figures are for their two promotion chasing seasons so I'd expect matchday revenues to be down on that when they release the 2018 accounts (due 28th Feb).

 

[TJB.]

If we dont get promoted the plan for the summer is hope Harry Maguire goes to Man U for £50m and that Che Adams is sold on by Brum for £15m+

I'll assume you mean David Brooks.

The club won't be banking on possibilities, but those transfers are perfectly possible. Every little helps...

 

[Tray]

Interesting figures.

Seems that Wendy's wage bill is about 50% bigger than ours.

Not doing them much good though.

It's all them big hitters on £40k a week.

 

[Sean Thornton]

My first thought was Bolton

All Football debts have to be repaid.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Come on Sean lets be avin you, you know you want to

Little that's not already been discussed. Doesn't answer the question as to WHY we make a loss and points to McCabe having had the money, as claimed year in year out.

 

[CarlingBlade]

I'll assume you mean David Brooks.

The club won't be banking on possibilities, but those transfers are perfectly possible. Every little helps...

Apologies, i did mean Brooks, we're also due a 5% on any future transfer of Maguire and 20% from Che Adams.

 

[Blade58]

This report says pre-tax losses down to £1.9m from £5.7m

https://www.insidermedia.com/inside...s-boost-blades-revenue-on-championship-return

 

[TJB.]

5% on any future transfer of Maguire

Are we? A sell-on after the sell-on?