reality check

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table when Carrick took over at boro

League Championship table after close of play on 10 October 2022​

Pos	Team	Pld	W	D	L	GF	GA	GD	Pts
1	Sheffield United	13	7	3	3	21	10	11	24
2	Norwich City	13	7	3	3	20	13	7	24
3	Queens Park Rangers	13	7	3	3	19	13	6	24
4	Burnley	13	5	7	1	20	12	8	22
5	Reading	13	7	1	5	15	18	-3	22
6	Swansea City	13	6	3	4	17	16	1	21
7	Blackburn Rovers	13	7	0	6	16	15	1	21
8	Preston North End	13	4	7	2	7	6	1	19
9	Luton Town	13	4	6	3	16	13	3	18
10	Cardiff City	13	5	3	5	12	13	-1	18
11	Sunderland	13	4	5	4	17	13	4	17
12	Watford	13	4	5	4	17	16	1	17
13	Millwall	13	5	2	6	15	17	-2	17
14	Birmingham City	13	4	4	5	12	12	0	16
15	Stoke City	13	4	4	5	15	17	-2	16
16	Wigan Athletic	12	4	4	4	13	16	-3	16
17	Rotherham United	12	3	6	3	13	12	1	15
18	Bristol City	13	4	3	6	20	21	-1	15
19	Blackpool	13	4	3	6	13	17	-4	15
20	Hull City	13	4	2	7	13	26	-13	14
21	Middlesbrough	13	3	4	6	14	18	-4	13
22	West Bromwich Albion	13	1	8	4	17	18	-1	11
23	Huddersfield Town	12	3	2	7	15	19	-4	11
24	Coventry City	10	1	4	5	8	14	-6	7

11 points behind united
win our game in hand and the gap will now be 9
so in 25 games Boro will have gained 2 points over us

and they will have to make up 9 in 7 games

Carrick not really that impressive as some make out

seasons are gauged over 46 games not a decent run , ask Wednesday fans

 

[Berkshire Blade]

I think that just goes to show how much better us, Luton, Burnley and Middlesbrough have done rather than putting down Carricks record

 

[mattbianco1]

Carrick not really that impressive as some make out

How do you work that out?

The very fact that his team were 21st in the league but have maintained the same (better) points per game than the team that were top at that point, suggests he's done a fantastic job.

His Middlesbrough team are averaging points at automatic promotion levels. Luckily Wilder gave them a disastrous start

 

[blade too long]

Im not putting it down but hes got an achilles heel they are poor away from the Riverside
its been a great run but some of our fans put down hecky who has got 2 points less in the same 25 games

 

[blade too long]

How do you work that out?

The very fact that his team were 21st in the league but have maintained the same (better) points per game than the team that were top at that point, suggests he's done a fantastic job.

His Middlesbrough team are averaging points at automatic promotion levels. Luckily Wilder gave them a disastrous start

we did the same last season under hecky , getting in the play offs from down there ,, but just missed out on autos as will boro
plus we too have been averaging 2 points per game , lets not forget

 

[brownblade]

table when Carrick took over at boro

League Championship table after close of play on 10 October 2022​

Pos	Team	Pld	W	D	L	GF	GA	GD	Pts
1	Sheffield United	13	7	3	3	21	10	11	24
2	Norwich City	13	7	3	3	20	13	7	24
3	Queens Park Rangers	13	7	3	3	19	13	6	24
4	Burnley	13	5	7	1	20	12	8	22
5	Reading	13	7	1	5	15	18	-3	22
6	Swansea City	13	6	3	4	17	16	1	21
7	Blackburn Rovers	13	7	0	6	16	15	1	21
8	Preston North End	13	4	7	2	7	6	1	19
9	Luton Town	13	4	6	3	16	13	3	18
10	Cardiff City	13	5	3	5	12	13	-1	18
11	Sunderland	13	4	5	4	17	13	4	17
12	Watford	13	4	5	4	17	16	1	17
13	Millwall	13	5	2	6	15	17	-2	17
14	Birmingham City	13	4	4	5	12	12	0	16
15	Stoke City	13	4	4	5	15	17	-2	16
16	Wigan Athletic	12	4	4	4	13	16	-3	16
17	Rotherham United	12	3	6	3	13	12	1	15
18	Bristol City	13	4	3	6	20	21	-1	15
19	Blackpool	13	4	3	6	13	17	-4	15
20	Hull City	13	4	2	7	13	26	-13	14
21	Middlesbrough	13	3	4	6	14	18	-4	13
22	West Bromwich Albion	13	1	8	4	17	18	-1	11
23	Huddersfield Town	12	3	2	7	15	19	-4	11
24	Coventry City	10	1	4	5	8	14	-6	7

11 points behind united
win our game in hand and the gap will now be 9
so in 25 games Boro will have gained 2 points over us

and they will have to make up 9 in 7 games

Carrick not really that impressive as some make out

seasons are gauged over 46 games not a decent run , ask Wednesday fans

Carrick's obviously done a great job, but I absolutely see your point

Also worth remembering we'd be out of sight (closer to Burnley) if most of our squad hadn't been injured at the same time. i.e. our first major blip was due to injuries, not form.

 

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moving to here

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

moving to here

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Let's keep away from here between now & season's end.

 

[Greasy Chap Butty]

But on promotion night

 

[Tezza1889]

It's clear to see Carrick has done fantastic, he won't be at Boro next season unless they go up though.

West Ham have an eye on him, and he'll go when that's offered, if it hasn't been already.

 

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be here if we triumph at Wembley in May

 

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where pitsmoor owl lives

 

[Houston_Blade]

What your telling us that If Boro pick up another 18 places in their next 25 games they’ll be in the European spots?!

How’s that meant to make me feel better?

 

[Rusty view]

Promotion and Fa Cup please.

 

[Ldn_Rd_Blades]

It’s alright playing lovely, fast attacking football like Middlesbrough have, but it’s the ground out 1 0 away wins that get you promoted.

 

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What your telling us that If Boro pick up another 18 places in their next 25 games they’ll be in the European spots?!

WE TRIED THAT LAST SEASON ended up in the play offs